Met a guy from Illinois today - Page 2

chack · July 10, 2011, 11:43 AM

It always blows my mind how casually people accept restrictions and infringements on their constitutional rights. It makes me wonder how long it will be before someone decides that a permit is needed to own books or personal libraries are limited to a arbitrary capacity.

abelacres · July 10, 2011, 11:57 AM

Spats,

I'm not sure. Another family member had went up for a vist and found primers and powder on a heckuva sale at a sporting goods store. He asked if he needed a FOID card to buy supplies and he was told no and could buy all he liked. (Which he did.) Could have been a screw up on the clerk's part, but I would just imagine they are pretty well trained.

Davey · July 10, 2011, 02:09 PM

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It always blows my mind how casually people accept restrictions and infringements on their constitutional rights. It makes me wonder how long it will be before someone decides that a permit is needed to own books or personal libraries are limited to a arbitrary capacity.

We have at least a half dozen or so cases going on right now fighting the nonsense here in IL. A lot of people are fighting hard over here.

jsimmons · July 11, 2011, 12:25 PM

If you think the Feds *AND* the state of Texas doesn't know who owns what and how much/many, you are sadly mistaken. Are they supposed to keep that info? No. Do they? I'd bet a paycheck that they do. Just wait and see.

If a terrorist event hapens, Marshal Law will go into effect, and they WILL be knocking on everyon's door that has purchased a gun (from a dealer or through a FFL) or ammo (online or locally with a atm/credit card), and you'll be standing there wondering how they knew.

I hope you have a place to hide your stuff...

blackriderhank · July 11, 2011, 07:43 PM

you can buy ammo in IL without an FOID if you are not from IL. Individual firearems are not registered in IL. FOID and gunhateing pols are one of the reasons I left IL

Mike38 · July 11, 2011, 09:08 PM

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kraigwy · July 11, 2011, 09:56 PM

Don't know much about Ill laws, always wondered how they would act regarding the LEOSA.

Last fall I took a motorcycle road trip to Camp Perry OH. I crossed through Ill on I-90/80, (the part where you have to pay extra to drive, we don't have them in Wyoming). At one of the rest areas I was warming up and met some Chicago Cops who were on a MC day trip.

I was wearing my old APD leather Jacket (it was cold) which still has a faded APD Patch. One of the guys ask me if I was a cop. Jokingly I told him I had been but stole the coat when I retired. That didn't seem to impress him. He asked if I was carrying and I just grinned and say "don't know, am I"? He just shook his head and walked away.

They didn't seem as friendly as most cops I've run across. Hope it wasn't an example on CPD. Later I found out about Chicago being uppity to people traveling through with guns.

They got some funny rules back east.

mrray13 · July 12, 2011, 07:12 AM

Yep, kraig, you met Chicago's finest, and their elitest attitude that only they should carry. I know state troopers from my way, who have been hassled by CPD. Seriously. They don't think any off duty officers should carry, save for themselves.

And I could go on about the way they act off duty, in personal vehicles traveling through down south. Some of my favorite traffic stops, lol!!!

Terminus009 · July 12, 2011, 11:07 AM

Now that every state in the republic allows ccw for law abiding citizens in one form or another, except THIS state, I'm sure the politicians and CPD can feel the water up around their necks. The 2nd Amendment is getting its day in court all over the state and I believe, if we all do our part, writing our legislators regarding this issue, it is inevitable that a non-discretionary ccw law will be passed in the near future. If not, it is further inevitable that the districts outside of Cook county will begin nominating and returning pro-2nd Amendment candidates for seats in Springfield. I, for one, am actively involved in this effort. I urge my fellow Illinoisans to do the same. NRA-ILA can help us get organized. Visit the NRA-ILA website, Grassroots page, to find out more.

From Southern Illinois,
Let's get busy!
J

July 10, 2011, 11:57 AM	#27
abelacres Senior Member Join Date: August 5, 2010 Location: Jackson County Florida Posts: 207	Spats, I'm not sure. Another family member had went up for a vist and found primers and powder on a heckuva sale at a sporting goods store. He asked if he needed a FOID card to buy supplies and he was told no and could buy all he liked. (Which he did.) Could have been a screw up on the clerk's part, but I would just imagine they are pretty well trained. __________________ If something seems too good to be true it's best to shoot at it just to be sure

July 11, 2011, 12:25 PM	#29
jsimmons Senior Member Join Date: February 17, 2008 Posts: 226	If you think the Feds AND the state of Texas doesn't know who owns what and how much/many, you are sadly mistaken. Are they supposed to keep that info? No. Do they? I'd bet a paycheck that they do. Just wait and see. If a terrorist event hapens, Marshal Law will go into effect, and they WILL be knocking on everyon's door that has purchased a gun (from a dealer or through a FFL) or ammo (online or locally with a atm/credit card), and you'll be standing there wondering how they knew. I hope you have a place to hide your stuff... __________________ Aim small, miss small... CamoPicker

July 11, 2011, 09:56 PM	#32
kraigwy Senior Member Join Date: June 16, 2008 Location: Wyoming Posts: 11,061	Don't know much about Ill laws, always wondered how they would act regarding the LEOSA. Last fall I took a motorcycle road trip to Camp Perry OH. I crossed through Ill on I-90/80, (the part where you have to pay extra to drive, we don't have them in Wyoming). At one of the rest areas I was warming up and met some Chicago Cops who were on a MC day trip. I was wearing my old APD leather Jacket (it was cold) which still has a faded APD Patch. One of the guys ask me if I was a cop. Jokingly I told him I had been but stole the coat when I retired. That didn't seem to impress him. He asked if I was carrying and I just grinned and say "don't know, am I"? He just shook his head and walked away. They didn't seem as friendly as most cops I've run across. Hope it wasn't an example on CPD. Later I found out about Chicago being uppity to people traveling through with guns. They got some funny rules back east. __________________ Kraig Stuart CPT USAR Ret USAMU Sniper School Distinguished Rifle Badge 1071

July 12, 2011, 11:07 AM	#34
Terminus009 Member Join Date: July 6, 2011 Location: SoIL Posts: 71	rising tide Now that every state in the republic allows ccw for law abiding citizens in one form or another, except THIS state, I'm sure the politicians and CPD can feel the water up around their necks. The 2nd Amendment is getting its day in court all over the state and I believe, if we all do our part, writing our legislators regarding this issue, it is inevitable that a non-discretionary ccw law will be passed in the near future. If not, it is further inevitable that the districts outside of Cook county will begin nominating and returning pro-2nd Amendment candidates for seats in Springfield. I, for one, am actively involved in this effort. I urge my fellow Illinoisans to do the same. NRA-ILA can help us get organized. Visit the NRA-ILA website, Grassroots page, to find out more. From Southern Illinois, Let's get busy! J __________________ ----- In Justice Robert H. Jackson's memorable words, "If there is any fixed star in our constellation, it is that no official, high or petty, can prescribe what shall be orthodox in politics, nationalism, religion, or other matters of opinion or force citizens to confess by word or act their faith therein."

July 10, 2011, 11:43 AM	#26
chack Junior member Join Date: May 24, 2011 Location: dixie Posts: 477	It always blows my mind how casually people accept restrictions and infringements on their constitutional rights. It makes me wonder how long it will be before someone decides that a permit is needed to own books or personal libraries are limited to a arbitrary capacity.

July 11, 2011, 07:43 PM	#30
blackriderhank Member Join Date: May 7, 2011 Location: SC Wisconsin Posts: 21	you can buy ammo in IL without an FOID if you are not from IL. Individual firearems are not registered in IL. FOID and gunhateing pols are one of the reasons I left IL

July 11, 2011, 09:08 PM	#31
Mike38 Senior Member Join Date: December 28, 2009 Location: North Central Illinois Posts: 2,710	***** post deleted *****

July 12, 2011, 07:12 AM	#33
mrray13 Senior Member Join Date: January 26, 2008 Location: Missouri Posts: 911	Yep, kraig, you met Chicago's finest, and their elitest attitude that only they should carry. I know state troopers from my way, who have been hassled by CPD. Seriously. They don't think any off duty officers should carry, save for themselves. And I could go on about the way they act off duty, in personal vehicles traveling through down south. Some of my favorite traffic stops, lol!!!