Mosin Nagant or Mauser 98?

fast-eddie · March 28, 2009, 02:53 AM

I'm in the market for a milserp bolt rifle, what do you guys prefer. The Nagant seems cheaper to shoot than the Mouser, but there is a mouser 98 with a good barrell at my local store for pretty cheap. Nagants are getting more scarce it seems.

freakintoguns · March 28, 2009, 02:55 AM

i wanna pick up a couple 3 or 4 nagants, simply because theyre so cheap. but im also interested in turnin one into a brush/truck gun witha syn stock and 20" barrel, scope etc

aeonrevolution · March 28, 2009, 03:03 AM

I'm guessing you're buying this in person.

If you go with a Mosin make sure you check the barrel. Some may seem as if they're brand new, while others will be pitted to hell.

ChicagoTex · March 28, 2009, 03:33 AM

The Nagant is still a huge bargain, but if I could get a Mauser 98k in decent shape for Nagant money, I'd absolutely jump on it. It's more ergonomic and (usually) more precisely made.

as for their respective ammo (8mm Mauser vs 7.62x54R) it's pretty much a wash performance-wise, though there seems to be a lot more cheap 7.62x54 surplus ammo out there (just be careful, a lot of it's corrosive) if ammo cost is a concern.

As a sidenote, Mauser stripper clips work much better than Nagant clips, if that matters to you.

fast-eddie · March 28, 2009, 04:18 AM

Thanks for the input, I think I'm going to buy the Mouser, it is Nagant cheap, and the ammo prices aren't
that much different to sway me in any direction.

bessemerbob · March 28, 2009, 10:24 AM

Mauser actions are some of the best all time. Copied and used to this day!

chris in va · March 28, 2009, 10:57 AM

Mouser.

Mauser.

Hind_MI24 · March 28, 2009, 11:02 AM

I have two Mosins. I Russian M44, and a M91/30 Mosin. They both shoot dead on. The M44 was a 60 dollar gun show special with a rough stock and pitted bore.

Shoots fine though. The M91 was perfect with a perfect barrel and its shoots fine.

Distortion · March 28, 2009, 11:42 AM

Yeah, I got a couple '01 mousers real cheap (free), but you have to figure in cost of maintanence and upkeep. They were both broke (got 'em fixed) and one (the boy) got kidney stones and had to go to the vet. Then there's the cost of ammo (food). Them mousers like their ammo every day.

Believe me, Mosins and Mausers will both be cheaper in the long run.

FrankenMauser · March 28, 2009, 01:44 PM

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Yeah, I got a couple '01 mousers real cheap (free), but you have to figure in cost of maintanence and upkeep. They were both broke (got 'em fixed) and one (the boy) got kidney stones and had to go to the vet. Then there's the cost of ammo (food). Them mousers like their ammo every day.

Believe me, Mosins and Mausers will both be cheaper in the long run.

Agreed.

I have 4 Mousers, 1 Mauser, and 1 Mosin. The Mauser and Mosin are much cheaper to feed.

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...I think I'm going to buy the Mouser, it is Nagant cheap,...

Sounds like a Yugo 24/47 (not a 98k). They are very good rifles, but have a unique action length. If you ever intend to throw a new stock on it, you'll be shelling out the cash; with one exception. -There are a handfull of M48 stocks on the market, that can be modified to accept the 24/47 action.-
Triggers and sights for any 98k will fit without a problem, but anything reliant on the standard action length will be a no-go.

Axel357 · March 28, 2009, 02:13 PM

I have one Mauser M48, two Mosin 91/30s, and one mouser.

I enjoy shooting the first two equally, but the wife'd kill me if I shot the third. I haven't bought ammo for either in some months, but I recall the difference in the two not being very much. Both are good rifles, so get the one that feels and looks better to you.

bessemerbob · March 28, 2009, 02:33 PM

Axel is dead on, pick up both hold them get to feel them and pick the one that feels right to you........

Im still leaning towards the K98!

fast-eddie · March 28, 2009, 02:51 PM

Alright, eventually I am going to get both, but right now just one.

I Also had a cat named Mauser for a while, than he became a neighborhood cat, He like to eat chili. (he was an oudoor cat)

Axel357 · March 28, 2009, 02:53 PM

A cat named Mauser who likes to eat chili

That's pretty funny. My parents' cat eats green olives like they're candy.

Get a K98 first. They seem slightly less plentiful in supply right now.

Mr Odd Six · March 28, 2009, 03:46 PM

I was going to get a MN, but the mil surp ammo is getting so old, its not worth my time to shoot it. With 5-600 fps drops in pressure, I wont bet my life on it.

I went with a Mauser, becuase I can reload CHEAPLY for it.

It also kills mousers nicely too

sniperinky · March 28, 2009, 03:50 PM

Dude, go with the Mosin. Mine shoots 2" at 600 meters. Trust me

, you won't be disapointed.

ChicagoTex · March 28, 2009, 04:00 PM

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Mine shoots 2" at 600 meters.

Skeptical ChicagoTex is skeptical.

Shorthair · March 28, 2009, 04:05 PM

I had a dog named Mauser. RIP, buddy.

OLNfan · March 28, 2009, 04:06 PM

Iv got a swedish mauser thats been spoterized and I love it. very accurate got a buck with it last season, cant complain. I love the rifle. My friend just picked up a spoterized mosin for 100 bucks (cdn) plus a box of ammo, GREAT deal so I would just suggest find a deal on either or.

sniperinky · March 28, 2009, 04:46 PM

You can be skeptical ChicagoTex, but that doesn't change how she shoots. I'm talking about the real deal a Tula Sniper Mosin.

ChicagoTex · March 28, 2009, 04:58 PM

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You can be skeptical ChicagoTex, but that doesn't change how she shoots. I'm talking about the real deal a Tula Sniper Mosin.

Even so, 2" at 600 meters is nigh-impossible. How many rounds is the group?

You're also being a little misleading, as the Nagant the OP is considering would be nowhere near as well-built as yours.

sniperinky · March 28, 2009, 05:00 PM

10 shot group letting the barrel cool between rounds.

.300 Weatherby Mag · March 28, 2009, 06:14 PM

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Mine shoots 2" at 600 meters.

BS w/o pics and signed statements from a min. of 3 witnesses!!!!!!!!!

**44 AMP** · March 28, 2009, 07:18 PM

2" at 600 meters. Thats 1/3 MOA. Never heard of a Mosin Nagant that was in the bencrest class for accuracy. Or even close. 10 shots in 2 inches at 600 meters? WOW!

Please give us the details of the rifle, ammo, and how many matches you have won with that tremendous shooter!

Funeralfog · March 28, 2009, 07:55 PM

save some money and get a Mosin, ammos is cheap, and the rifle is cheap. i have both but i'd rather dirty up my Mosin than my Mauser. both excellent rifles so you cant go wrong either way

March 28, 2009, 02:53 AM	#1
fast-eddie Senior Member Join Date: March 10, 2009 Location: Tigard Or, Posts: 342	Mosin Nagant or Mauser 98? I'm in the market for a milserp bolt rifle, what do you guys prefer. The Nagant seems cheaper to shoot than the Mouser, but there is a mouser 98 with a good barrell at my local store for pretty cheap. Nagants are getting more scarce it seems.

March 28, 2009, 03:03 AM	#3
aeonrevolution Senior Member Join Date: August 19, 2008 Location: St. Louis Posts: 150	I'm guessing you're buying this in person. If you go with a Mosin make sure you check the barrel. Some may seem as if they're brand new, while others will be pitted to hell. __________________ My guitars go to 11.

March 28, 2009, 04:18 AM	#5
fast-eddie Senior Member Join Date: March 10, 2009 Location: Tigard Or, Posts: 342	Mouser Thanks for the input, I think I'm going to buy the Mouser, it is Nagant cheap, and the ammo prices aren't that much different to sway me in any direction.

March 28, 2009, 11:42 AM	#9
Distortion Senior Member Join Date: June 25, 2008 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 419	Yeah, I got a couple '01 mousers real cheap (free), but you have to figure in cost of maintanence and upkeep. They were both broke (got 'em fixed) and one (the boy) got kidney stones and had to go to the vet. Then there's the cost of ammo (food). Them mousers like their ammo every day. Believe me, Mosins and Mausers will both be cheaper in the long run. __________________ There is no gravity. The Earth sucks.

March 28, 2009, 02:13 PM	#11
Axel357 Senior Member Join Date: February 7, 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 242	I have one Mauser M48, two Mosin 91/30s, and one mouser. I enjoy shooting the first two equally, but the wife'd kill me if I shot the third. I haven't bought ammo for either in some months, but I recall the difference in the two not being very much. Both are good rifles, so get the one that feels and looks better to you. __________________ "The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil interference - they deserve a place of honor with all that's good" -George Washington

March 28, 2009, 02:55 AM	#2
freakintoguns Senior Member Join Date: October 6, 2008 Posts: 496	i wanna pick up a couple 3 or 4 nagants, simply because theyre so cheap. but im also interested in turnin one into a brush/truck gun witha syn stock and 20" barrel, scope etc

March 28, 2009, 03:33 AM	#4
ChicagoTex Junior member Join Date: March 18, 2008 Location: DFW Metroplex Posts: 1,909	The Nagant is still a huge bargain, but if I could get a Mauser 98k in decent shape for Nagant money, I'd absolutely jump on it. It's more ergonomic and (usually) more precisely made. as for their respective ammo (8mm Mauser vs 7.62x54R) it's pretty much a wash performance-wise, though there seems to be a lot more cheap 7.62x54 surplus ammo out there (just be careful, a lot of it's corrosive) if ammo cost is a concern. As a sidenote, Mauser stripper clips work much better than Nagant clips, if that matters to you.

March 28, 2009, 10:24 AM	#6
bessemerbob Member Join Date: March 28, 2009 Location: USA Posts: 34	Mauser actions are some of the best all time. Copied and used to this day!

March 28, 2009, 10:57 AM	#7
chris in va Senior Member Join Date: December 26, 2004 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 13,806	Mouser. Mauser.

March 28, 2009, 11:02 AM	#8
Hind_MI24 Junior Member Join Date: March 22, 2009 Posts: 7	I have two Mosins. I Russian M44, and a M91/30 Mosin. They both shoot dead on. The M44 was a 60 dollar gun show special with a rough stock and pitted bore. Shoots fine though. The M91 was perfect with a perfect barrel and its shoots fine.

March 28, 2009, 02:33 PM	#12
bessemerbob Member Join Date: March 28, 2009 Location: USA Posts: 34	Axel is dead on, pick up both hold them get to feel them and pick the one that feels right to you........ Im still leaning towards the K98! Last edited by bessemerbob; March 28, 2009 at 02:33 PM. Reason: spelling

March 28, 2009, 02:51 PM	#13
fast-eddie Senior Member Join Date: March 10, 2009 Location: Tigard Or, Posts: 342	Alright, eventually I am going to get both, but right now just one. I Also had a cat named Mauser for a while, than he became a neighborhood cat, He like to eat chili. (he was an oudoor cat)

March 28, 2009, 02:53 PM	#14
Axel357 Senior Member Join Date: February 7, 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 242	A cat named Mauser who likes to eat chili That's pretty funny. My parents' cat eats green olives like they're candy. Get a K98 first. They seem slightly less plentiful in supply right now. __________________ "The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil interference - they deserve a place of honor with all that's good" -George Washington

March 28, 2009, 03:46 PM	#15
Mr Odd Six Junior member Join Date: March 17, 2009 Location: Washingrad not DC Posts: 133	I was going to get a MN, but the mil surp ammo is getting so old, its not worth my time to shoot it. With 5-600 fps drops in pressure, I wont bet my life on it. I went with a Mauser, becuase I can reload CHEAPLY for it. It also kills mousers nicely too

March 28, 2009, 03:50 PM	#16
sniperinky Junior member Join Date: March 7, 2009 Location: White Lightning Hills Posts: 35	Dude, go with the Mosin. Mine shoots 2" at 600 meters. Trust me, you won't be disapointed.

March 28, 2009, 04:05 PM	#18
Shorthair Senior Member Join Date: March 11, 2005 Location: Michigan Posts: 348	I had a dog named Mauser. RIP, buddy. __________________ Earth First! We can hunt the other planets later.

March 28, 2009, 04:06 PM	#19
OLNfan Senior Member Join Date: February 27, 2009 Location: British Columbia Canada Posts: 277	Iv got a swedish mauser thats been spoterized and I love it. very accurate got a buck with it last season, cant complain. I love the rifle. My friend just picked up a spoterized mosin for 100 bucks (cdn) plus a box of ammo, GREAT deal so I would just suggest find a deal on either or. __________________ "Dear Governor Axtell. I've heard that you will give 200 dollars for my head. Perhaps we should meet and talk. I am at the Juarez village at the border. Send 3 men, and instruct them not to shoot, as I am unarmed. In short, Sir; I surrender. Your obedient servant William H. Bonney. PS: I changed my mind. Kiss my ass."

March 28, 2009, 04:46 PM	#20
sniperinky Junior member Join Date: March 7, 2009 Location: White Lightning Hills Posts: 35	You can be skeptical ChicagoTex, but that doesn't change how she shoots. I'm talking about the real deal a Tula Sniper Mosin.

March 28, 2009, 05:00 PM	#22
sniperinky Junior member Join Date: March 7, 2009 Location: White Lightning Hills Posts: 35	10 shot group letting the barrel cool between rounds.

March 28, 2009, 07:18 PM	#24
44 AMP Staff Join Date: March 11, 2006 Location: Upper US Posts: 28,833	WOW 2" at 600 meters. Thats 1/3 MOA. Never heard of a Mosin Nagant that was in the bencrest class for accuracy. Or even close. 10 shots in 2 inches at 600 meters? WOW! Please give us the details of the rifle, ammo, and how many matches you have won with that tremendous shooter! __________________ All else being equal (and it almost never is) bigger bullets tend to work better.

March 28, 2009, 07:55 PM	#25
Funeralfog Senior Member Join Date: March 25, 2009 Location: Camas Washington, USA Posts: 136	save some money and get a Mosin, ammos is cheap, and the rifle is cheap. i have both but i'd rather dirty up my Mosin than my Mauser. both excellent rifles so you cant go wrong either way