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April 7, 2012, 06:51 PM | #51 |
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I don't have a lot of experience in mediation because of the nature of what I do. I can very well believe a court would not look kindly on someone refusing to mediate. The fact this is an appellate court involving substantial questions of constitutional law would problem lessen any "hostility" but I think it would be a bad idea not to at least go through the motions.
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Nordyke Finally Over - Decision's out
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I think even the county will be so glad to have this behind them that piling on of new, unusual restrictions is unlikely, until they get their bill! Each justice characterized the 11th hour consessions as broad, sweeping, etc. Quote:
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Awesome! Now what I think is needed is those cases waiting on this decision need to be moved forward. Time for the chock blocks to be pulled and let them roll further down the runway.
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June 1, 2012, 05:59 PM | #54 |
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It will be interesting to see if the county attempts to enforce the ammo ban. Ammo sales are the bread and butter of gun show sales, and part and parcel of the right itself.
If there is an ammo ban, I believe it puts a 2A claim back on the table. If I were the county, I would just acquiesce and be done with it. But this is Alameda, so who knows. The exemption for events does not include ammo, only secured firearms. |
June 1, 2012, 07:42 PM | #55 |
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That's an interesting judgment. Thanks in no small part to the County's almost complete reversal of position, the judgment essentially boils down to "There's no more argument here so let's all go home."
I wonder if the decision is going to provide any guidance whatsoever for other cases being held in abeyance for this one, since it's unlikely the other cases can be counted upon to be resolved by the defendants reversing their positions. |
June 1, 2012, 08:12 PM | #56 |
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Nordyke was essentially mooted by the defendant Alameda County at orals. In other words, they caved and gave up.
Because of this reversal of position by the County, there was no case or controversy. No case, no controversy, no decision, no precedent. This case neither helps nor hinders any of the other cases at the 9th Circuit. What remains to be seen is if Don Kilmer can recoup any fees for the last 12 years of litigation. |
June 12, 2012, 03:02 PM | #57 |
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It's BAAAAAAACKKK!!!!!!
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June 12, 2012, 07:44 PM | #58 |
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Too bad I can't read the briefs without joining the forum.
Such is life in cyberspace.
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June 12, 2012, 08:27 PM | #59 |
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So... Read them here.
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June 13, 2012, 09:40 AM | #60 |
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Many thanks, Al.
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It was never reported, but Don Kilmer lost his bid to recoup his costs. He then filed for certiorari for prevailing party status. Here is the docket, currently at SCOTUS:
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Here is the 7 page Petition for Certiorari:
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January 7, 2013, 02:32 PM | #63 |
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Today, Jan 7th, 2013, the SCOTUS denied cert. Don Kilmer will not get paid.
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January 7, 2013, 07:26 PM | #64 |
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Disappointing but maybe it just wasn't "clean enough."
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