Title II "Loophole"

Gary L. Griffiths · May 26, 2011, 09:24 PM

Today while waiting for a connecting flight in the Phoenix airport, I heard the talking heads on CNN blathering about a "Title II Loophole" which supposedly allowed the unwashed masses to purchase "high-powered" weapons. Unfortunately the background noise mostly overrode the audio, so all I could really see was the banner headline. Anyone know what this is all about?

carguychris · May 26, 2011, 09:30 PM

This is not really news. Somebody at CNN just learned what an NFA Title II trust is, i.e. pay attorney to establish a trust for you and NFA weapons become less difficult to acquire in some jurisdictions. Note I didn't say "easy". I just said "less difficult". And they DON'T get any cheaper.

Google "NFA Title II trust".

n4aof · May 27, 2011, 08:16 AM

An individual applying to buy/transfer an NFA registered weapon generally needs approval of the "Chief Law Enforcement Officer" in his jurisdiction (usually a county sheriff or city police chief). A non-individual (corporation) has all the other requirements but does not require the approval of the "chief law enforcement officer" under federal laws (that same approval may still be required under state law)

TENFAN · May 29, 2011, 07:15 PM

Also with an LLC, Corp or Trust you do not have to submit any photos or fingerprints.

**JohnKSa** · June 4, 2011, 08:47 PM

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Also with an LLC, Corp or Trust you do not have to submit any photos or fingerprints.

Plus you can set up the trust so there's more than one trustee (essentially more than one person who can legally possess/use the item). It also makes acquiring more than one controlled item easier since you don't have to go through the entire process a second time. The trust already exists, so assuming it was set up properly the first time you just have to add another item to the trust.

James K · June 4, 2011, 09:03 PM

To the anti-gun gangsters there is only one "loophole" - the one that keeps them from ordering the execution of everyone who ever owned a gun or even thought about owning a gun. And they want that loophole closed. Heil Brady!

Jim

alan · June 5, 2011, 04:34 PM

As to the cost of Title 2 items, (NFA arms), the Hughes Amendment, circa 1986 screwed that pooch nicely.

May 26, 2011, 09:24 PM	#1
Gary L. Griffiths Senior Member Join Date: April 7, 2000 Location: AZ, WA Posts: 1,466	Title II "Loophole" Today while waiting for a connecting flight in the Phoenix airport, I heard the talking heads on CNN blathering about a "Title II Loophole" which supposedly allowed the unwashed masses to purchase "high-powered" weapons. Unfortunately the background noise mostly overrode the audio, so all I could really see was the banner headline. Anyone know what this is all about? __________________ Violence is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and valorous feeling which believes that nothing is worth violence is much worse. Those who have nothing for which they are willing to fight; nothing they care about more than their own craven apathy; are miserable creatures who have no chance of being free, unless made and kept so by the valor of those better than themselves. Gary L. Griffiths (Paraphrasing John Stuart Mill)

May 26, 2011, 09:30 PM	#2
carguychris Senior Member Join Date: October 20, 2007 Location: Richardson, TX Posts: 7,523	This is not really news. Somebody at CNN just learned what an NFA Title II trust is, i.e. pay attorney to establish a trust for you and NFA weapons become less difficult to acquire in some jurisdictions. Note I didn't say "easy". I just said "less difficult". And they DON'T get any cheaper. Google "NFA Title II trust". __________________ "Smokey, this is not 'Nam. This is bowling. There are rules... MARK IT ZERO!!" - Walter Sobchak

May 27, 2011, 08:16 AM	#3
n4aof Member Join Date: July 2, 2008 Posts: 37	Loophole An individual applying to buy/transfer an NFA registered weapon generally needs approval of the "Chief Law Enforcement Officer" in his jurisdiction (usually a county sheriff or city police chief). A non-individual (corporation) has all the other requirements but does not require the approval of the "chief law enforcement officer" under federal laws (that same approval may still be required under state law)

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May 29, 2011, 07:15 PM	#4
TENFAN Member Join Date: February 13, 1999 Location: Tallahassee,FL USA Posts: 27	Also with an LLC, Corp or Trust you do not have to submit any photos or fingerprints.

June 4, 2011, 09:03 PM	#6
James K Member In Memoriam Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 24,383	To the anti-gun gangsters there is only one "loophole" - the one that keeps them from ordering the execution of everyone who ever owned a gun or even thought about owning a gun. And they want that loophole closed. Heil Brady! Jim

June 5, 2011, 04:34 PM	#7
alan Senior Member Join Date: June 7, 1999 Posts: 3,847	As to the cost of Title 2 items, (NFA arms), the Hughes Amendment, circa 1986 screwed that pooch nicely.