A Military Weapons/National defence policy Forum?

Hard Ball · February 15, 2000, 08:45 PM

Reading the varios threads flowing from "Black Hawk Down", Green tip m16 ammunition etc it seems to me that many members are interested in military weapons and national defence while others are not. TFL has some members who are very knowlegeable in these ares. I have learned a number of things in these discussions that I didn't know previously and found very interesting.

A forum on these subjects would appeal to many members and those members who are not interetsed could pass it up.

**Bud Helms** · February 15, 2000, 09:11 PM

Make that a vote of two.

**Rich Lucibella** · February 15, 2000, 09:46 PM

Bring us a bona fide, qualified Moderator and we'll take it into consideration. Specific, high level credentials are required.

We're not about to slit our own throats, credibilty-wise, with a forum that turns into "The Conspiracy Theorist's Den".
Rich

[This message has been edited by Rich Lucibella (edited February 15, 2000).]

**Bud Helms** · February 15, 2000, 10:59 PM

Seems like a reasonable answer. The search is on.

Hardball, a Military Weapons Forum? Note the absence of Nat'l Defense Policy.

Would it turn into an AR Forum?

George Hill · February 16, 2000, 03:33 AM

Those military topics are easily defined as subjects of other forums.
Unless we could get General Schwartzkof in here...

Hard Ball · February 16, 2000, 12:04 PM

Sensop
I noticed that. It's probably the work of the great right wing conspiracy!

RWK · February 17, 2000, 02:55 PM

Rich,

I would be glad to help, if you decide to establish this forum. Please note, however, that while I have lots of military weapons systems expertise (30+ years), it is highly focused on tactical aircraft and their systems, sensors, and ordnance/weapons -- not on land-warfare systems nor smaller arms (155mm and down).

Warm regards - Roy

**Rich Lucibella** · February 17, 2000, 03:06 PM

Thanks much, Roy. Fact of the matter is we had contact from a qualified individual 10 minutes after this thread appeared and are currently reviewing whether such topic would be additive or duplicative vis a vis George's comment.

I'm interested in seeing what further comments and suggestions we get over the course of next week. We will certainly keep you in mind and appreciate the offer of help.
Rich

Jeff White · February 18, 2000, 01:11 AM

Rich,
I don't think we've gone anywhere near conspiracys in the green tip ammo and Blackhawk Down threads. Mostly technical stuff that I've had to watch about posting Army-speak in.

I'd be glad to help. 25 years Army experience. 11B40 and 13B40 (Infantry and Artillery)
Jeff

Ivanhoe · February 18, 2000, 02:32 AM

I'm for it. while mil-issue trucks may quality as "gear" or "general discussion", there may well be enough volume to justify its own folder.

and I don't see why people call me a "conspiracy theorist" just because I maintain that Elvis shot JFK at Area 51...

mcshot · February 18, 2000, 09:07 AM

I'm all for it. My tour ran from 1968-72 and I'm still interested is such topics although I couldn't wait to get out.

------------------
"Keep shootin till they quit floppin"
The Wife 2/2000

Spectre · February 18, 2000, 12:49 PM

Highly interested in MWF. Conspiracy theories unwelcome. I expect reports of new weapons in development to be backed by reasonable documentation.

To my mind, items such as the new Soviet rifle, FN military-only offerings such as P90, and a host of other subjects can be included amongst other discussions, but can reasonably be granted their own place.
Some of us are most interested in these types of offerings, anyway, and I see this as savings us all considerable time, while a large percentage of the site population is probably uninterested in tightly controlled weapons, anyway...

EchoFiveMike · February 21, 2000, 03:06 PM

I'm all for it. Would be a good place to talk shop and also let civilians in on some of our problems/advantages/moans/groans/complaints. I think a well eduacated public would like to know where all their tax dollars go(or don't go, such as is the case nowadays)Also a lot of the mil stuff winds up as surplus sooner or later.(Even under Klinton) Semper Fi...Ken M

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February 15, 2000, 08:45 PM	#1
Hard Ball Senior Member Join Date: November 28, 1999 Location: California Posts: 3,925	Reading the varios threads flowing from "Black Hawk Down", Green tip m16 ammunition etc it seems to me that many members are interested in military weapons and national defence while others are not. TFL has some members who are very knowlegeable in these ares. I have learned a number of things in these discussions that I didn't know previously and found very interesting. A forum on these subjects would appeal to many members and those members who are not interetsed could pass it up.

February 15, 2000, 09:11 PM	#2
Bud Helms Senior Member Join Date: December 31, 1999 Location: Middle Georgia, USA Posts: 13,198	Make that a vote of two.

February 15, 2000, 09:46 PM	#3
Rich Lucibella Staff Join Date: October 6, 1998 Location: South Florida Posts: 10,229	Bring us a bona fide, qualified Moderator and we'll take it into consideration. Specific, high level credentials are required. We're not about to slit our own throats, credibilty-wise, with a forum that turns into "The Conspiracy Theorist's Den". Rich [This message has been edited by Rich Lucibella (edited February 15, 2000).]

February 15, 2000, 10:59 PM	#4
Bud Helms Senior Member Join Date: December 31, 1999 Location: Middle Georgia, USA Posts: 13,198	Seems like a reasonable answer. The search is on. Hardball, a Military Weapons Forum? Note the absence of Nat'l Defense Policy. Would it turn into an AR Forum?

February 16, 2000, 03:33 AM	#5
George Hill Staff Alumnus Join Date: October 14, 1998 Location: North Carolina Posts: 11,546	Those military topics are easily defined as subjects of other forums. Unless we could get General Schwartzkof in here...

February 16, 2000, 12:04 PM	#6
Hard Ball Senior Member Join Date: November 28, 1999 Location: California Posts: 3,925	Sensop I noticed that. It's probably the work of the great right wing conspiracy!

February 17, 2000, 02:55 PM	#7
RWK Senior Member Join Date: August 20, 1999 Location: Occupied Virginia Posts: 2,777	Rich, I would be glad to help, if you decide to establish this forum. Please note, however, that while I have lots of military weapons systems expertise (30+ years), it is highly focused on tactical aircraft and their systems, sensors, and ordnance/weapons -- not on land-warfare systems nor smaller arms (155mm and down). Warm regards - Roy

February 17, 2000, 03:06 PM	#8
Rich Lucibella Staff Join Date: October 6, 1998 Location: South Florida Posts: 10,229	Thanks much, Roy. Fact of the matter is we had contact from a qualified individual 10 minutes after this thread appeared and are currently reviewing whether such topic would be additive or duplicative vis a vis George's comment. I'm interested in seeing what further comments and suggestions we get over the course of next week. We will certainly keep you in mind and appreciate the offer of help. Rich

February 18, 2000, 01:11 AM	#9
Jeff White Senior Member Join Date: October 29, 1998 Location: Kinmundy, IL, USA Posts: 1,397	Rich, I don't think we've gone anywhere near conspiracys in the green tip ammo and Blackhawk Down threads. Mostly technical stuff that I've had to watch about posting Army-speak in. I'd be glad to help. 25 years Army experience. 11B40 and 13B40 (Infantry and Artillery) Jeff

February 18, 2000, 02:32 AM	#10
Ivanhoe Senior Member Join Date: November 18, 1998 Location: Virginia Posts: 412	I'm for it. while mil-issue trucks may quality as "gear" or "general discussion", there may well be enough volume to justify its own folder. and I don't see why people call me a "conspiracy theorist" just because I maintain that Elvis shot JFK at Area 51...

February 18, 2000, 09:07 AM	#11
mcshot Senior Member Join Date: October 24, 1999 Location: Over da bridge, Mi Posts: 754	I'm all for it. My tour ran from 1968-72 and I'm still interested is such topics although I couldn't wait to get out. ------------------ "Keep shootin till they quit floppin" The Wife 2/2000

February 18, 2000, 12:49 PM	#12
Spectre Staff Alumnus Join Date: October 23, 1998 Location: ATL Posts: 3,277	Highly interested in MWF. Conspiracy theories unwelcome. I expect reports of new weapons in development to be backed by reasonable documentation. To my mind, items such as the new Soviet rifle, FN military-only offerings such as P90, and a host of other subjects can be included amongst other discussions, but can reasonably be granted their own place. Some of us are most interested in these types of offerings, anyway, and I see this as savings us all considerable time, while a large percentage of the site population is probably uninterested in tightly controlled weapons, anyway...

February 21, 2000, 03:06 PM	#13
EchoFiveMike Senior Member Join Date: February 12, 2000 Posts: 416	I'm all for it. Would be a good place to talk shop and also let civilians in on some of our problems/advantages/moans/groans/complaints. I think a well eduacated public would like to know where all their tax dollars go(or don't go, such as is the case nowadays)Also a lot of the mil stuff winds up as surplus sooner or later.(Even under Klinton) Semper Fi...Ken M