Winchester Action Pistol

Nnobby45 · July 15, 2005, 10:10 PM

WAP is the best stuff I've found for loading 9mm and .40 cal., but was discontinued for reloaders by Winchester due to lack of sales, as I understand it.

Someone on the board mentioned some time ago that WAP was now being sold under another name, but I neglected to make a note of it. Anybody know what it is?

Jim Watson · July 15, 2005, 10:13 PM

Ramshot Silhouette.
Use their data, word is they had St Marks tweak the formula a little.

BILLY D. · July 15, 2005, 11:41 PM

R. H. VANDENBURG COVERED THIS SUBJECT IN HANDLOADER MAGAZINE #224 AUG-SEPT 2003. www.handloadermagazine.com MIGHT GET YOU A COPY OF THE ARTICLE IF YOU ARE INTERESTED.

ACCORDIND TO MR. VANDENBURG AND PRIMEX THE COMPANY THAT PRODUCES SILHOUETTE THE DATA BETWEEN WAP AND SILHOUETTE ARE INTERCHANGEABLE.

I WOULD HIGHLY SUGGEST THAT LOAD DATA BE USED IN THE OLD FAMILIAR FASHION. USE A STARTING LOAD FROM A MANUAL AND WORK YOUR WAY UP. THE AVAILABILITY OF NEW POWDERS AND BULLETS SEEMS TO CHANGE WEEKLY ANYMORE. EVERY TUESDAY THERE IS A NEW ONE.

BUT THE PRICE OF ALL THIS STUFF KEEPS ME OUT OF THE BARS AND OFF THE STREETS.

Nnobby45 · July 16, 2005, 05:17 PM

Appreciate the info. I'm down to my last several lb.s of WAP. Hard to imagine life without it.

NRA LIFE LIFE MEMBER

BILLY D. · July 16, 2005, 10:55 PM

I Know How You Feel. I Felt The Same Way When Hodgdon Stopped Making H-450. But I Learned To Get Along Without It.

WESHOOT2 · July 17, 2005, 10:04 AM

Even though I still have a few cans of WAP left

, I can also suggest Vihtavuori's fine 3N37 and N350.

But they ain't WAP / Silhouette (rumor = slightly more flash-n-temp retardant in Silhouette; unconfirmed. But still likely.

)

July 15, 2005, 10:10 PM	#1
Nnobby45 Senior Member Join Date: November 20, 2004 Posts: 3,150	Winchester Action Pistol WAP is the best stuff I've found for loading 9mm and .40 cal., but was discontinued for reloaders by Winchester due to lack of sales, as I understand it. Someone on the board mentioned some time ago that WAP was now being sold under another name, but I neglected to make a note of it. Anybody know what it is?

July 15, 2005, 11:41 PM	#3
BILLY D. Member Join Date: February 15, 2005 Location: MINOT (MINDROT) ND Posts: 81	R. H. VANDENBURG COVERED THIS SUBJECT IN HANDLOADER MAGAZINE #224 AUG-SEPT 2003. www.handloadermagazine.com MIGHT GET YOU A COPY OF THE ARTICLE IF YOU ARE INTERESTED. ACCORDIND TO MR. VANDENBURG AND PRIMEX THE COMPANY THAT PRODUCES SILHOUETTE THE DATA BETWEEN WAP AND SILHOUETTE ARE INTERCHANGEABLE. I WOULD HIGHLY SUGGEST THAT LOAD DATA BE USED IN THE OLD FAMILIAR FASHION. USE A STARTING LOAD FROM A MANUAL AND WORK YOUR WAY UP. THE AVAILABILITY OF NEW POWDERS AND BULLETS SEEMS TO CHANGE WEEKLY ANYMORE. EVERY TUESDAY THERE IS A NEW ONE. BUT THE PRICE OF ALL THIS STUFF KEEPS ME OUT OF THE BARS AND OFF THE STREETS. __________________ PLEASE EXCUSE UPPER CASE TYPING I AM HANDICAPPED AND ONLY TYPE WITH ONE HAND. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. HANDLOADS ARE LIKE UNDERWEAR.....BE CAREFUL WHO YOU SWAP WITH. HAPPY TRAILS, BILL NRA LIFE MEMBER-1965 THE THREAD KILLER Last edited by BILLY D.; July 16, 2005 at 02:23 AM.

July 16, 2005, 05:17 PM	#4
Nnobby45 Senior Member Join Date: November 20, 2004 Posts: 3,150	Appreciate the info. I'm down to my last several lb.s of WAP. Hard to imagine life without it. NRA LIFE LIFE MEMBER Last edited by Nnobby45; July 16, 2005 at 07:20 PM.

July 16, 2005, 10:55 PM	#5
BILLY D. Member Join Date: February 15, 2005 Location: MINOT (MINDROT) ND Posts: 81	I Know How You Feel. I Felt The Same Way When Hodgdon Stopped Making H-450. But I Learned To Get Along Without It. __________________ PLEASE EXCUSE UPPER CASE TYPING I AM HANDICAPPED AND ONLY TYPE WITH ONE HAND. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. HANDLOADS ARE LIKE UNDERWEAR.....BE CAREFUL WHO YOU SWAP WITH. HAPPY TRAILS, BILL NRA LIFE MEMBER-1965 THE THREAD KILLER

July 17, 2005, 10:04 AM	#6
WESHOOT2 Senior Member Join Date: February 20, 1999 Location: home on the range; Vermont (Caspian country) Posts: 14,324	not for sale Even though I still have a few cans of WAP left , I can also suggest Vihtavuori's fine 3N37 and N350. But they ain't WAP / Silhouette (rumor = slightly more flash-n-temp retardant in Silhouette; unconfirmed. But still likely. ) __________________ . "all my ammo is mostly retired factory ammo"

July 15, 2005, 10:13 PM	#2
Jim Watson Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2001 Location: Alabama Posts: 18,543	Ramshot Silhouette. Use their data, word is they had St Marks tweak the formula a little.