Hunter Safety Instructor Needs Your Help

[Idlechater]

Gentlemen and Ladies:

I instruct hunter safety in Washington State. As a component of my class, I like to introduce the students to unique types of ammunition. To do this, I pass around examples of the ammunition. I am asking that if any of you reload unique calibers that you send two "dummy rounds" to me. I would happily pay any shipping charges that you incurr. I would like the case to be empty and primer-less and the ball seated.

Here is a list of calibers that I currently have:

25-06
7mm-08
30-30
30-06
7x57
45-70
223 Remington
243 Winchester
308 Winchester
6.5x55
6.8mm Remington
22-250
222 Remington
204 Ruger
260 Remington
30 Carbine
44-40 Winchester
32-20 Winchester
38 Special
41 Remington Mag
357 Mag
44 Mag
45 Win Mag
45 Colt
380 Auto

If you have any other calibers that you could kindly add to my collection, I and my students would be very appreciative. You can email me at ejb"at"ecgmc.com if you have questions, or would like me to Paypal you shipping charges.

Thanks.

[Idlechater]

I want to thank those that have offered their assistance. Thus far, I have offers to provide the following additional calibers:

270 Winchester
45 ACP
221 Fireball
357 R Max.
6.5 Carcano
.303 British
8X56R
7.62X54R
7.62 Nagent Revolver
10MM
7-30 Waters
.220 Swift

Any others that individuals may reload would be greatly appreciated. This is one of the most enjoyed aspects of the class as students typically are only familiar with one or two different calibers.

Thanks!!!!!

[jckeffer]

You might consider including some shotgun shells as well. See my PM for 22-250 dummy rounds. Whoops -sorry - didn't notice you already have 22-250.

[Idlechater]

JC:

I agree with you about shotshells. I currently have 12, 16, 20, 28, and .410... Would like to find some 10, and 8 gauge as well as brass hull shotshells but have not yet started that search...

I really appreciate all the help that you guys are giving me!!!

[IllinoisCoyoteHunter]

You Should Try To Get Some 3 And 4 Guage.......the Big Dogs!!!!

[Idlechater]

Wow, people have come through in grand fashion... To add to the list, here are calibers that people have offered to provide a deprimed, bullet seated dummy round in addition to those listed above:

458 SOCOM
6.8 SPC
480 Ruger
458 Lott
303 British
7.62 X 54 Russian
300 WSM
270 WSM
300 Win Mag
35 Rem
500 AE
10mm Auto
7mm SAUM
45 ACP

I really appreciate all the support. If there is a caliber that you load that I have not listed and you would be willing to make some deprimed dummy rounds for me and my classes, I would very much be grateful.

[DaveInPA]

How about .50BMG? I would need a little more than just shipping though, since the brass and bullets are rather pricey. Lemme know.

[Idlechater]

Dave:

I appreciate your offer, but I actually already have one. I just forgot to mention it. One day if we ever get together I will tell you a story about a 10 year old kid that told me he was going to shoot a 30-40 Krag but had never seen the cartridge. I pulled the 50 BMG out of the box and he about passed out! It was hilarious. His dad got a big laugh out of it too.

I really am grateful for everyones support.

[IllinoisCoyoteHunter]

Did You Mention 9mm?? If You Need 9mm, Let Me Know.

[Idlechater]

ICH: A couple of 9mm would be great! I don't own that caliber so if you could make a couple that are deprimed w/o powder and send them my way I would be very grateful. Shoot me an email at ejb"at"ecgmc.com or PM me and I will provide my address.

[Idlechater]

Gentlmen:

To keep you updated, here are the offers that I have to date:

270 Winchester
45 ACP
221 Fireball
357 R Max.
6.5 Carcano
.303 British
8X56R
7.62X54R
7.62 Nagent Revolver
10MM
7-30 Waters
.220 Swift
458 SOCOM
6.8 SPC
480 Ruger
458 Lott
303 British
7.62 X 54 Russian
300 WSM
270 WSM
300 Win Mag
35 Rem
500 AE
7mm SAUM
300 Savage
7.62 x 39mm Russian
7.62 x 54r Russian
7.62 x 25 Tokarev
9mm
50 BMG
.257 Roberts
.284 Win
9.6x62
.458 Win
450 Ackley

If you load a caliber that is not listed here or on my original list and would be willing to help out, I would greatly appreciate it. This is going to be a wonderful addition to my class experience and will really help to show the students what a wonderfully diverse world of shooting there really is!

Thank you very much!

[Idlechater]

Update time gentlemen:

What I Have:

25-06
7mm-08
30-30
30-06
7x57
45-70
223 Remington
243 Winchester
308 Winchester
6.5x55
6.8mm Remington
22-250
222 Remington
204 Ruger
260 Remington
30 Carbine
44-40 Winchester
32-20 Winchester
38 Special
41 Remington Mag
357 Mag
44 Mag
45 Win Mag
45 Colt
380 Auto


What Has Been Offered:

270 Winchester
45 ACP
221 Fireball
357 R Max.
6.5 Carcano
.303 British
8X56R
7.62X54R
7.62 Nagent Revolver
10MM
7-30 Waters
.220 Swift
458 SOCOM
6.8 SPC
480 Ruger
458 Lott
303 British
7.62 X 54 Russian
300 WSM
270 WSM
300 Win Mag
35 Rem
500 AE
7mm SAUM
300 Savage
7.62 x 39mm Russian
7.62 x 54r Russian
7.62 x 25 Tokarev
9mm
50 BMG
.257 Roberts
.284 Win
9.6x62
.458 Win
450 Ackley
257 Roberts
7.65 Argentine
7.7 Jap
8mm Mauser
32 apc
7mm Rem Mag
375 H&H Mag
22 Hornet
22 K Hornet
30-30 Ackley
44 Rem. Mag

Please email me at ejb"at"ecgmc.com if you have other calibers that you can contribute as deprimed dummy rounds.

[Idlechater]

Gentlemen:

I just want to really thank all of you that have helped me. The list of cartridges that I now have is impressive. The kids were all digging through them at last nights class and really enjoyed seeing a lot of cartridges that they have never seen before.

Here is what I now have thanks to all of you!

Rifle Cartridges

 204 Ruger
 221 Remington Fireball
 22 Hornet
 22 Hornet AI
 222 Remington
 223 Remington
 22-250 Remington
 220 Swift
 243 Winchester
 6mm Remington
 243 WSSM
 250 Savage
 250 Savage AI
 257 Roberts
 257 Roberts AI
 25-06 Remington
 260 Remington
 6.5x55 Swedish Mauser
 270 WSM
 7-30 Waters
 7mm-08
 7mm Mauser (7x57)
 280 Whisper
 280 Remington
 7mm Remington Magnum
 7mm Remington Ultra Magnum
 7.62x54
 7.7 Jap
 30 Carbine
 30-30 Winchester
 30-30 Winchester AI
 303 British
 308 Winchester
 300 WSM
 300 Winchester Magnum
 32-20 Winchester
 357 Remington Max
 8x56
 8mm Mauser
 8.8mm Remington SPC
 375 H&H Magnum
 44-40 Winchester
 45-70 Government

Pistol Cartridges
 32 Auto
 380 Auto
 7mm Benchrest
 38 Special
 357 Magnum
 10mm Auto
 40 S&W
 41 Remington Magnum
 44 Magnum
 45 ACP
 45 Winchester Magnum
 50 AE
 500 S&W Magnum

[SL1]

From a hunter safety standpoint, it might be a good idea to show the kids some wildcat cartridges that have headstamps from their parent cartridge cases. The lesson being that you could be fooled if you did not know what the cartridge your gun takes is really supposed to look like.

I can offer a .30 Herrett cartridge made from a .30-30 case, and maybe from a .375 Winchester case and a .225 Winchester case.

Let me know if you are interested.

SL1

[TATER]

Aswell, I could send .256Win Mag From .357 Rem Mag.

[Idlechater]

SL1:

I have considered what you are suggesting, but here is the challenge. Most of the students have almost no firearm training whatsoever. It is a challenge just to be able to get them to understand where they identify the caliber of rifle that they are hunting with and where they identify the caliber of the cartridge. To add in the complicating factor that a 30-30 headstamped cartridge might actually be a 6.5mm Benchrest Magnum or that a 30-06 might actually be a 6mm-06 is more than most could handle in the time that we have with them. I am pushing it a little by having AI ammuntion, as it is not apparent that it is different unless you have a little advanced understanding.

That said, I do appreciate the offers for "custom" ammunition, but I will have to save that for the "Advanced Hunter Safety" class that has yet to be developed.

[Idlechater]

LongRifle:

You humble me. Thank you for the sacrafice that you and your family are making so that people like me and my kids can sleep sound at night, walk safely during the day, and enjoy the freedoms that every one of us that have not marched in your boots take for granted.

I will take you up on your offer, not because I need the cartridges, but because that will mean that you have returned safely to your family and loved ones.

Thank you so very much!

[RidgwayCO]

E-mail me your address, and I'll send you a couple of .44 Russians, .44 S&W Specials, and .30-06 Springfields (I can't believe this last one's not on the list).

[Idlechater]

Ridgeway:

I appreciate your offer. Are the .44 Russian correctly headstamped? It is confusing for the students if we put calibers in the mix that are based on a different caliber case. If they are, then I would love to have a couple. If not, I would still appreciate the .44 S&W.

Also, you are correct - I have 30-06. That was just operator (me) error in making my list of calibers.

Shoot me an email or a PM and I will send you my mailing address.

Again, you guys are super.

Thanks!!!

[Idlechater]

Hey Gang:

The latest entries have an astrisk... I continue to thank all of those that have/are contrbuting... The other instructors have developed cartridge envy!!!

Rifle Cartridges
 204 Ruger
 221 Remington Fireball
 22 Hornet
 22 Hornet AI
 222 Remington
 223 Remington
 22-250 Remington
 220 Swift
 243 Winchester
 6mm Remington
 243 WSSM
 250 Savage
 250 Savage AI
 257 Roberts
 257 Roberts AI
 25-06 Remington
 260 Remington
 6.5x55 Swedish Mauser
 270 WSM
 7-30 Waters
 7mm-08
 7mm Mauser (7x57)
 280 Whisper
 280 Remington
 7mm Remington Magnum
 7mm Remington Ultra Magnum
 7.62x54
 7.7 Jap
 30 Carbine
 30-30 Winchester
 30-30 Winchester AI
 303 British
 308 Winchester
 30-06 Springfield
 300 WSM
 300 Winchester Magnum
 32-20 Winchester
 357 Remington Max
 8x56
 8mm Mauser
 8.8mm Remington SPC
 375 H&H Magnum
 44-40 Winchester
 45-70 Government

Pistol Cartridges
 32 Auto
 380 Auto
 7mm Benchrest
 38 Special
 38 S&W **
 38-200 **
 357 Magnum
 357-44 (Gag cartridge) **
 10mm Auto
 40 S&W
 41 Remington Magnum
 44 Russian **
 44 S&W **
 44 Magnum
 45 ACP
 45 Winchester Magnum
 50 AE
 500 S&W Magnum

[Idlechater]

Hey Gang:

Here is the latest list... If any of you load something that is not on the list and would be willing to load up two of them without primer or powder I would be much appreciative.

Rifle Cartridges
 218 Bee
 204 Ruger
 221 Remington Fireball
 22 Hornet
 22 Hornet AI
 22 Remington Jet (based on 357 cartridge)
 22 RC Max (based on 357 Max cartridge).
 222 Remington
 223 Remington
 22-250 Remington
 220 Swift
 243 Winchester
 6mm Remington
 243 WSSM
 250 Savage
 250 Savage AI
 257 Roberts
 257 Roberts AI
 25-06 Remington
 260 Remington
 6.5x55 Swedish Mauser
 270 WSM
 7-30 Waters
 7mm-08
 7mm Mauser (7x57)
 280 Whisper
 280 Remington
 7mm Remington Magnum
 7mm Remington Ultra Magnum
 7.62x54
 7.7 Jap
 30 Carbine
 30-30 Winchester
 30-30 Winchester AI
 303 British
 308 Winchester
 30-06 Springfield
 300 WSM
 300 Whisper (based on 221 Remington cartridge)
 300 Winchester Magnum
 32-20 Winchester
 357 Remington Max
 8x56
 8mm Mauser
 8.8mm Remington SPC
 375 H&H Magnum
 44 Remington Magnum
 44-40 Winchester
 45-70 Government

Pistol Cartridges
 32 Auto
 380 Auto
 7mm Benchrest
 38 Special
 38 S&W
 38-200
 357 Sig.
 357 Magnum
 357-44 (Gag cartridge)
 10mm Auto
 40 S&W
 41 Remington Magnum
 44 Russian
 44 S&W
 44 Magnum
 45 ACP
 45 Winchester Magnum
 460 S&W
 50 AE
 500 S&W Magnum


I appreciate all of the support that everyone has given me...

[Idlechater]

Gang:

Just trying to keep you posted... I received 444 Marlin and 338 Winchester Magnum dummys today... I hope you all know how much I appreciate this... I have another class scheduled in March and I am really looking forward to sharing my dummy bucket with all of them...

I don't get emails or PM's back to everyone that sent because I can't keep everyone straight, but please know that I am sincerely grateful for everyone's support...

Have a great day...

Rifle Cartridges
 218 Bee
 204 Ruger
 221 Remington Fireball
 22 Hornet
 22 Hornet AI
 22 Remington Jet (based on 357 cartridge)
 22 RC Max (based on 357 Max cartridge).
 222 Remington
 223 Remington
 22-250 Remington
 220 Swift
 243 Winchester
 6mm Remington
 243 WSSM
 250 Savage
 250 Savage AI
 257 Roberts
 257 Roberts AI
 25-06 Remington
 260 Remington
 6.5x55 Swedish Mauser
 270 WSM
 7-30 Waters
 7mm-08
 7mm Mauser (7x57)
 280 Whisper
 280 Remington
 7mm Remington Magnum
 7mm Remington Ultra Magnum
 7.62x54
 7.7 Jap
 30 Carbine
 30-30 Winchester
 30-30 Winchester AI
 303 British
 308 Winchester
 30-06 Springfield
 300 WSM
 300 Whisper (based on 221 Remington cartridge)
 300 Winchester Magnum
 32-20 Winchester
 338 Winchester Magnum
 357 Remington Max
 8x56
 8mm Mauser
 8.8mm Remington SPC
 375 H&H Magnum
 44 Remington Magnum
 44-40 Winchester
 444 Marlin
 45-70 Government

Pistol Cartridges
 32 Auto
 380 Auto
 7mm Benchrest
 38 Special
 38 S&W
 38-200
 357 Sig.
 357 Magnum
 357-44 (Gag cartridge)
 10mm Auto
 40 S&W
 41 Remington Magnum
 44 Russian
 44 S&W
 44 Magnum
 45 ACP
 45 Winchester Magnum
 460 S&W
 50 AE
 500 S&W Magnum

[Idlechater]

Guys:

Just received four additional cartridges, including:

6.8 Remington SPC
458 SOCOM
480 Ruger
458 Lott

I really appreciate the support. If you reload any cartridges that I have not listed and would be willing to send me a couple of de-primed dummy's I would really be grateful and happy to reimburse for shipping.

Thanks.

Rifle Cartridges
 218 Bee
 204 Ruger
 221 Remington Fireball
 22 Hornet
 22 Hornet AI
 22 Remington Jet (based on 357 cartridge)
 22 RC Max (based on 357 Max cartridge).
 222 Remington
 223 Remington
 22-250 Remington
 220 Swift
 243 Winchester
 6mm Remington
 243 WSSM
 250 Savage
 250 Savage AI
 257 Roberts
 257 Roberts AI
 25-06 Remington
 260 Remington
 6.5x55 Swedish Mauser
 6.8 Remington SPC
 270 WSM
 7-30 Waters
 7mm-08
 7mm Mauser (7x57)
 280 Whisper
 280 Remington
 7mm Remington Magnum
 7mm Remington Ultra Magnum
 7.62x54
 7.7 Jap
 30 Carbine
 30-30 Winchester
 30-30 Winchester AI
 303 British
 308 Winchester
 30-06 Springfield
 300 WSM
 300 Whisper (based on 221 Remington cartridge)
 300 Winchester Magnum
 32-20 Winchester
 338 Winchester Magnum
 357 Remington Max
 8x56
 8mm Mauser
 8.8mm Remington SPC
 375 H&H Magnum
 44 Remington Magnum
 44-40 Winchester
 444 Marlin
 45-70 Government
 458 SOCOM
 458 Lott

Pistol Cartridges
 32 Auto
 380 Auto
 7mm Benchrest
 38 Special
 38 S&W
 38-200
 357 Sig.
 357 Magnum
 357-44 (Gag cartridge)
 10mm Auto
 40 S&W
 41 Remington Magnum
 44 Russian
 44 S&W
 44 Magnum
 45 ACP
 45 Winchester Magnum
 460 S&W
 480 Ruger
 50 AE
 500 S&W Magnum