How often do you change out your JHP rounds in your daily carry? - Page 3

Adizzle19 · April 27, 2016, 09:34 AM

Like a previous poster has said:

Each time I remove a round after it's been chambered I put a dot on the base. The 4th dot goes on the primer. After that it's removed from the rotation and either goes in the SHTF stockpile or gets shot at the range. This is done to avoid setback. It's probably unnecessary but my ammo stays fresh and I get to accumulate good quality ammunition should I ever need it.

Shimpy · May 8, 2016, 03:47 PM

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Any good factory center fire ammo should last a couple life times unless you are dunking the gun and ammo in salt water daily. My WW2 Ammo still works.

I've got 45 acp and 44 mag that I cast and loaded in 1973 (43 years old) that shoot like new. These have been kept in a tool box in my garage all these years with high heat and humidity during the Florida summers.

deadcoyote · May 10, 2016, 10:19 AM

Every year when I have to re-up my off duty carry card I change the ammo out. Not that big a deal to get 18 new 9mm rounds and 5 new .38 special.

michael t · May 10, 2016, 07:42 PM

My carry ammo When I clean I take chambered round and it goes to bottom of the cleaned mag . When mag full of chambered rounds. Then we shoot them. Ammo doesn't go bad .

I had a little Bauer 25 in safe for years . Walk out side and emptied as fast as I could pull trigger. . Not one miss fire . I have a old AR-7 from around 1982 . It banged around behind seat of pickup for years. Now in back of Jeep . I put together and shoot the 22 ammo. Reload and put every thing back in stock. When I happen to think about it. Good CCI ammo has yet to fail.
I still have 158gr SWCHP +P from 80's in storage Few years back I shot up couple 1000 rounds of 45 acp been in storage . not one problem. Except shortly their after ammo took a big price jump

Bongo Boy · May 14, 2016, 12:36 AM

The ammo I carry everyday isn't under conditions any different than the ammo I have stored at home, in any significant way I can think of. It's certainly as dry, and probably sees less temperature swing than my stored ammo. In any case, I've got nothing to suggest temperature swings from 0F to 90F are ever going to have any impact on ammo anyway, and that's generally the widest range my ammo or powder will ever see...with some rare exceptions.

I see no reason at all to ever change the ammo in my carry guns...it's no older or newer than the ammo I'd replace it with, and I'm pretty darn sure I could chamber any of it about a zillion times and it would measure exactly what it does right now. It certainly wouldn't be set back from chambering.

Anyway..I certainly don't care if others choose to change out their ammo from time to time...but it's just not a concern of mine. I choose to hand inspect each round (usually) for case mouth burrs, extractor burrs or damage on the rim, poor primer seating/squashing and so on. I clean each round by hand, and load 'em in a magazine that's been disassembled and cleaned and 'feels good'. The carry ammo all comes out of the mag when I practice at the range, and it all goes back into the mag when I'm done shooting and ready to reholster to leave the range.

Under any conditions I've ever carried or kept ammo, I'd consider 'old' or possibly less reliable to be no less than ~25 years old for factory ammo or any ammo I've hand loaded in clean cases. For folks who somehow manage to sweat all over their ammo, I suppose there could be greater concern.

I happen to live in a bone dry high plains desert environment, and I know this makes a big difference--I was born and raised in Michigan and things were a lot different there.

Was JHP ammo a specific concern in this context, or was it just an assumption that carry ammo = JHP? I didn't get why the OP specifically mentioned JHP.

Jo6pak · May 15, 2016, 08:59 AM

Every time I hit the range with it (about once every 4-6 weeks.)
I don't necessarily do it to "refresh" the ammo, but it's the easiest way to empty the magazine so I can load it with range fodder.
I don't give too much thought to the ammo getting old, I do however roate my 3 magazines as carry mags. That way the mag springs get a rest for a few weeks and don't stay loaded all the time. Is that needed, maybe not. But it can't hurt.

Doc Holliday 1950 · May 15, 2016, 10:23 PM

Hi Glockomatic,

I shoot at least 2 times/month now and always practice using the ammo that I always carry out in the real World. I generally do not plink. Think it's a waste of time and money. I might be wrong, but I try to shoot what I carry always. That way there are no surprises or screw ups. I try to buy my ammo in bulk which most of the times is $10 to $20 less costly/box than what my range sells the same ammo. So, to answer your post, I never have the same ammo in my revolvers for more than one month.

Regards,

Jeff22 · May 22, 2016, 01:01 AM

I change the ammo out once a year. Usually in January so I can keep track of when I did it.

Overkill777 · May 25, 2016, 05:28 AM

I dry fire practice with my carry gun a lot so the round that get chambered several times gets replaced. That's about it.

t45 · May 25, 2016, 05:19 PM

I rotate the chambered round back into the magazine only when I clean the gun and rechamber a fresh round. Otherwise the round stays chambered until the next cleaning. My carry gun stays loaded and ready to go 24/7. I do check OAL on all rounds that go into my carry gun. I have run into factory rounds that had set back. It's rare but it has happened.

Paul B. · May 26, 2016, 06:43 PM

Couple of points; I have some .45 ACP ammo (live) dated FA17. Had enough loose ammo for one full magazine. Didn't want to open up the two somewhat sealed boxes. All seven rounds went bang. That's 99 year old ammo people and I have absolutely no clue how it may have been stored all those years. I have a friend who inherited a choice 1911 with a serial number that places it in 1911 or possibly 1912. He got it from his father in law and he decided to shoot off the ammo in the magazine. Cases were dated FA14. No misfires and no jams. The sad news is he didn't know about corrosive priming and a once mint early 1911 is now junk.

I cleaned it up the best I could but it's ugly now.
Dunno if it's germane to the thread but in 1980 or 81, I got a smoking deal one 1,000 rounds of once fired .357 Magnum brass. I got it all frisked, necks properly belled and all rounds primed. For some reason I never got that ammo loaded. It's been sitting out in an uninsulated shed all these years in Tucson's very hot summers, humid and hot rainy season and several for sure hard freeze winters. A while back I loaded up 100 rounds, 50 for a friend and 50 for me. Every one fired as it should.
My carry gun most of the time is an S&W M60 .38 Spl. snubby. There are times when it's had to stay in the console of my vehicle during some very hot days. My truck is a dark blue and it gets might hot inside. I'm gonna have to hit the range and see if they will still shoot.
Paul B.

FrankenMauser · May 27, 2016, 12:43 AM

When I picked up my LCP earlier in the year, I finally fired off the last of the Winchester Ranger SXTs that I bought and had been carrying (primarily 'car carry') since 1998.

My P95 (9mm) still sometimes gets stuffed with Hydrashoks purchased in 2000 and used as the primary SD load until 2014.

If I'm not seeing any problems with the load, I generally don't care to mess with it.

In the case of those Winchester SXT loads, I did occasionally fire a couple (besides initial testing) over the preceding 18 years. ...But it wasn't to rotate them due to age. It was because I was seeing a little bullet setback or 'crimp jump', from being chambered repeatedly.
I'd fire off the 'offenders' and mix a couple 'new' cartridges from the box into the magazine.

Revolvers?...
I don't rotate, unless I'm just changing loads or managed to fire off the loaded SD ammo for some reason. There's some .44 ammo from 1997 in my Super Blackhawk right now, and it's likely to go right back in the box when I change the load for whatever reason.

jasmith85 · May 27, 2016, 08:06 AM

I try to rotate my carry ammunition out, but I do not have an exact system. I just change it out when it seems like its been a long time since I last did so.

Nakanokalronin · May 27, 2016, 09:04 AM

If you practice with your carry gun (which everyone should) then just shoot it next time you bring it to the range. If you don't want to shoot the whole mag then just shoot the chambered round and rack in a new one. If it's just sitting in the gun then it'll be fine for awhile. Do people think ammo expires like a carton of eggs if they sit too long?

I bring up a story when it comes to loaded mags and ammo. I read an article awhile back of these gun writers being called to the house of a WWII widow who's husband had just passed away. She wanted them to take the bring back 1911 he had stored up in the attic. Not only was it sitting in an attic, but it had a loaded mag with WWII ammo in it. They said it was loaded since he came back from the war. They took the mag out and put it in a new 1911 and not only did every round feed,fire and eject, but it locked back the slide after the last round.

peggysue · May 27, 2016, 12:00 PM

Over thought out for a non existing situation. JMO

rock185 · May 29, 2016, 02:32 PM

Now that I'm retired I really don't have a schedule. My main concerns with duty/carry ammo is not that it won't go bang, but rather with things like bullet push back, rims getting dinged up,etc. Not much of an issue back during the days when the revolver reigned supreme, but more of an issue in today's semi-auto world. During almost 40 years in LE though, duty ammo was replaced once a year. FWIW, a few years ago I had the opportunity to chronograph some old factory Winchester .357 Magnum 125 grain duty ammo that had been stored in less than ideal conditions. It had been stored in a shed exposed to Summer temperatures of 100+ degrees for something I suspect was 20 years or more. I tested ammo from 4 different boxes. It all went bang, but velocities tended to be erratic.........

Smoothshooter · August 22, 2016, 10:16 PM

Why are you asking specifically about replacing hollow points?

I am not aware they go bad any sooner than anything else.

I personally carry handloaded lead full wadcutters or semi-wadcutters, and have never had any of my carry ammo fail to go off, even when several years old.

I shoot quite a bit however, and the ammo in my carry guns is usually fired within a couple of months or less.

xcc_rider · August 25, 2016, 12:02 AM

I bought a box of Win Silvertips shortly after I got my 1911. They were always loaded\carried be it on my person or in a vehicle.

A year or two ago I burned thru my remaining 3 mags of 40 yr old Silvertips in the belief they were too old and unreliable.
Each one went BANG and I realized I wasted a bunch of $$$

SteelPig · August 25, 2016, 11:45 AM

Duty ammo get swapped out during Annual Quals. Have qualify with any other carry weapons too, so those rigs get emptied during quals too.

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Wheelgun · September 23, 2016, 10:39 PM

I don't have a set schedule for it, but probably average about once a month or so. I try to shoot a box of my carry ammo at least that often. POI and felt recoil seem to differ compared to the generic round ball practice ammo.

5whiskey · September 23, 2016, 11:30 PM

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I don't think you are wrong to change out your ammo, but its not something I bother worrying about.

^^^This^^^

I too have measured rounds for setback and have never seen it in one carry piece. The jacket on all rounds of carry ammo are tarnished pretty good, and this ammo is at least 8 years old. I bought 3 boxes of 50 rounds in '08 or so. I fired two boxes to establish reliability in two different pistols (I know, I know, I really should fire more rounds per pistol... but never had a failure so I'm good with it). The other box has been loaded in both pistols for years now. I frequently fire one of them, so rounds do get chambered frequently. I've measured for setback and never noticed any. The first year I fired all of the ammo that I carried in my Kahr, which was my EDC, and never had a failure. I cycled new rounds into it and planned to make it a yearly affair. After that I began shooting surplus ammo in other firearms and realized that if 50+ year old ammo is good to go, my 3 year old carry ammo was probably okay. I haven't fired any of it since other than test firing one magazine a couple of years ago. No problems. Probably time to test fire another mag in another year or so.

Ammo in my duty carry, however, is cycled yearly when I qualify. I would still trust it if it wasn't, but that's how my agency qualifies. I don't carry that Kahr so much anymore now that I have an issued P290... but none-the-less it does still get carried at times and I do trust the ammo in it.

Cheapshooter · September 24, 2016, 08:45 AM

When ever I go to the range, and when it comes time to practice with my carry gun and I forget to change over to fmj range ammo!

Or once a month like my underwear.

jr24 · September 26, 2016, 09:02 AM

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When ever I go to the range, and when it comes time to practice with my carry gun and I forget to change over to fmj range ammo!

That's about it for me. I'll forget to switch to range ammo with my CCW occasionally. Or I will shoot up all the range ammo I have and don't want to stop, so my spare mag gets shot.

849ACSO · September 26, 2016, 02:51 PM

As a full time LEO and firearms instructor, this is a shameful story to tell, but..................

When you're teaching others, you sometimes forget to take time for yourself.

I have some mags loaded with duty rounds, and some with practice rounds. When teaching, I change mags out to practice rounds so I'm not burning $2 every time I pull the trigger to show someone something.

During one of those times, I used my practice stuff and had one of the other instructors there run me through my qualification. Then later, the duty stuff got put back in. A few times of that got me some 3 year old duty ammo in my daily carry that I sweat all over, get rain down in, dust up in, blah, blah, blah.............

Guess what?? It all functioned flawlessly............... Nothing to talk about in this thread. I would have complete faith in my duty ammo if I only changed it once every 5 years...........

Lohman446 · September 26, 2016, 03:53 PM

I had some old Corbon (I think DPX) rounds fail the other day. They had sat around awhile and had been my carry ammo at one point.

Had 2 failures out of 6. Not overly impressive. I had switched out to Federal HST as carry ammo before this though.

I did recycle both of those (I could see the hammer strike on the primer) and they fired fine on the second round. Fired 50 rounds of Federal after that with no failures.

May 10, 2016, 07:42 PM	#54
michael t Senior Member Join Date: May 17, 2004 Location: Out back Ky Posts: 4,044	My carry ammo When I clean I take chambered round and it goes to bottom of the cleaned mag . When mag full of chambered rounds. Then we shoot them. Ammo doesn't go bad . I had a little Bauer 25 in safe for years . Walk out side and emptied as fast as I could pull trigger. . Not one miss fire . I have a old AR-7 from around 1982 . It banged around behind seat of pickup for years. Now in back of Jeep . I put together and shoot the 22 ammo. Reload and put every thing back in stock. When I happen to think about it. Good CCI ammo has yet to fail. I still have 158gr SWCHP +P from 80's in storage Few years back I shot up couple 1000 rounds of 45 acp been in storage . not one problem. Except shortly their after ammo took a big price jump __________________ Certified Armed Infidel Colt Defender ,Colt Mustang ,Dan Wesson CBOB, PPK/S, American Classic 1911,Bersa Thunder 380 http://bersachat.comHome of Bersa http://www.metroarms1911forum.com

May 14, 2016, 12:36 AM	#55
Bongo Boy Senior Member Join Date: December 18, 2008 Location: Colo Spgs CO Posts: 517	The ammo I carry everyday isn't under conditions any different than the ammo I have stored at home, in any significant way I can think of. It's certainly as dry, and probably sees less temperature swing than my stored ammo. In any case, I've got nothing to suggest temperature swings from 0F to 90F are ever going to have any impact on ammo anyway, and that's generally the widest range my ammo or powder will ever see...with some rare exceptions. I see no reason at all to ever change the ammo in my carry guns...it's no older or newer than the ammo I'd replace it with, and I'm pretty darn sure I could chamber any of it about a zillion times and it would measure exactly what it does right now. It certainly wouldn't be set back from chambering. Anyway..I certainly don't care if others choose to change out their ammo from time to time...but it's just not a concern of mine. I choose to hand inspect each round (usually) for case mouth burrs, extractor burrs or damage on the rim, poor primer seating/squashing and so on. I clean each round by hand, and load 'em in a magazine that's been disassembled and cleaned and 'feels good'. The carry ammo all comes out of the mag when I practice at the range, and it all goes back into the mag when I'm done shooting and ready to reholster to leave the range. Under any conditions I've ever carried or kept ammo, I'd consider 'old' or possibly less reliable to be no less than ~25 years old for factory ammo or any ammo I've hand loaded in clean cases. For folks who somehow manage to sweat all over their ammo, I suppose there could be greater concern. I happen to live in a bone dry high plains desert environment, and I know this makes a big difference--I was born and raised in Michigan and things were a lot different there. Was JHP ammo a specific concern in this context, or was it just an assumption that carry ammo = JHP? I didn't get why the OP specifically mentioned JHP. __________________ NRA Benefactor Member “If I had to live my life again, I'd make the same mistakes, only sooner.” T Bankhead "I think only the authorities should have weapons." The New American Electorate Last edited by Bongo Boy; May 14, 2016 at 12:44 AM.

May 15, 2016, 08:59 AM	#56
Jo6pak Senior Member Join Date: August 5, 2010 Location: West Coast...of WI Posts: 1,663	Every time I hit the range with it (about once every 4-6 weeks.) I don't necessarily do it to "refresh" the ammo, but it's the easiest way to empty the magazine so I can load it with range fodder. I don't give too much thought to the ammo getting old, I do however roate my 3 magazines as carry mags. That way the mag springs get a rest for a few weeks and don't stay loaded all the time. Is that needed, maybe not. But it can't hurt. __________________ NRA Life Member, SAF contributor.

May 15, 2016, 10:23 PM	#57
Doc Holliday 1950 Senior Member Join Date: June 16, 2014 Location: Bout as south as it gets Posts: 1,238	Hi Glockomatic, I shoot at least 2 times/month now and always practice using the ammo that I always carry out in the real World. I generally do not plink. Think it's a waste of time and money. I might be wrong, but I try to shoot what I carry always. That way there are no surprises or screw ups. I try to buy my ammo in bulk which most of the times is $10 to $20 less costly/box than what my range sells the same ammo. So, to answer your post, I never have the same ammo in my revolvers for more than one month. Regards, __________________ Shoot well and be Accurate, Doc

May 22, 2016, 01:01 AM	#58
Jeff22 Senior Member Join Date: September 15, 2004 Location: Madison, Wisconsin Posts: 715	changing out service ammo in carry guns I change the ammo out once a year. Usually in January so I can keep track of when I did it. __________________ You can only learn from experience if you pay attention!

April 27, 2016, 09:34 AM	#51
Adizzle19 Member Join Date: September 6, 2014 Posts: 75	Like a previous poster has said: Each time I remove a round after it's been chambered I put a dot on the base. The 4th dot goes on the primer. After that it's removed from the rotation and either goes in the SHTF stockpile or gets shot at the range. This is done to avoid setback. It's probably unnecessary but my ammo stays fresh and I get to accumulate good quality ammunition should I ever need it.

May 10, 2016, 10:19 AM	#53
deadcoyote Senior Member Join Date: April 13, 2009 Location: northern CA Posts: 674	Every year when I have to re-up my off duty carry card I change the ammo out. Not that big a deal to get 18 new 9mm rounds and 5 new .38 special.

May 25, 2016, 05:28 AM	#59
Overkill777 Senior Member Join Date: January 4, 2015 Posts: 267	I dry fire practice with my carry gun a lot so the round that get chambered several times gets replaced. That's about it.

May 25, 2016, 05:19 PM	#60
t45 Senior Member Join Date: January 29, 2010 Location: Foothills, NC Posts: 782	I rotate the chambered round back into the magazine only when I clean the gun and rechamber a fresh round. Otherwise the round stays chambered until the next cleaning. My carry gun stays loaded and ready to go 24/7. I do check OAL on all rounds that go into my carry gun. I have run into factory rounds that had set back. It's rare but it has happened.

May 26, 2016, 06:43 PM	#61
Paul B. Senior Member Join Date: March 28, 1999 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 3,801	Couple of points; I have some .45 ACP ammo (live) dated FA17. Had enough loose ammo for one full magazine. Didn't want to open up the two somewhat sealed boxes. All seven rounds went bang. That's 99 year old ammo people and I have absolutely no clue how it may have been stored all those years. I have a friend who inherited a choice 1911 with a serial number that places it in 1911 or possibly 1912. He got it from his father in law and he decided to shoot off the ammo in the magazine. Cases were dated FA14. No misfires and no jams. The sad news is he didn't know about corrosive priming and a once mint early 1911 is now junk. I cleaned it up the best I could but it's ugly now. Dunno if it's germane to the thread but in 1980 or 81, I got a smoking deal one 1,000 rounds of once fired .357 Magnum brass. I got it all frisked, necks properly belled and all rounds primed. For some reason I never got that ammo loaded. It's been sitting out in an uninsulated shed all these years in Tucson's very hot summers, humid and hot rainy season and several for sure hard freeze winters. A while back I loaded up 100 rounds, 50 for a friend and 50 for me. Every one fired as it should. My carry gun most of the time is an S&W M60 .38 Spl. snubby. There are times when it's had to stay in the console of my vehicle during some very hot days. My truck is a dark blue and it gets might hot inside. I'm gonna have to hit the range and see if they will still shoot. Paul B. __________________ COMPROMISE IS NOT AN OPTION!

May 27, 2016, 12:43 AM	#62
FrankenMauser Senior Member Join Date: August 25, 2008 Location: In the valley above the plain Posts: 13,424	When I picked up my LCP earlier in the year, I finally fired off the last of the Winchester Ranger SXTs that I bought and had been carrying (primarily 'car carry') since 1998. My P95 (9mm) still sometimes gets stuffed with Hydrashoks purchased in 2000 and used as the primary SD load until 2014. If I'm not seeing any problems with the load, I generally don't care to mess with it. In the case of those Winchester SXT loads, I did occasionally fire a couple (besides initial testing) over the preceding 18 years. ...But it wasn't to rotate them due to age. It was because I was seeing a little bullet setback or 'crimp jump', from being chambered repeatedly. I'd fire off the 'offenders' and mix a couple 'new' cartridges from the box into the magazine. Revolvers?... I don't rotate, unless I'm just changing loads or managed to fire off the loaded SD ammo for some reason. There's some .44 ammo from 1997 in my Super Blackhawk right now, and it's likely to go right back in the box when I change the load for whatever reason. __________________ Don't even try it. It's even worse than the internet would lead you to believe.

May 27, 2016, 08:06 AM	#63
jasmith85 Senior Member Join Date: April 6, 2012 Location: Tennessee Posts: 631	I try to rotate my carry ammunition out, but I do not have an exact system. I just change it out when it seems like its been a long time since I last did so.

May 27, 2016, 09:04 AM	#64
Nakanokalronin Senior Member Join Date: July 29, 2006 Posts: 1,066	If you practice with your carry gun (which everyone should) then just shoot it next time you bring it to the range. If you don't want to shoot the whole mag then just shoot the chambered round and rack in a new one. If it's just sitting in the gun then it'll be fine for awhile. Do people think ammo expires like a carton of eggs if they sit too long? I bring up a story when it comes to loaded mags and ammo. I read an article awhile back of these gun writers being called to the house of a WWII widow who's husband had just passed away. She wanted them to take the bring back 1911 he had stored up in the attic. Not only was it sitting in an attic, but it had a loaded mag with WWII ammo in it. They said it was loaded since he came back from the war. They took the mag out and put it in a new 1911 and not only did every round feed,fire and eject, but it locked back the slide after the last round.

May 27, 2016, 12:00 PM	#65
peggysue Junior member Join Date: May 20, 2014 Posts: 1,835	Over thought out for a non existing situation. JMO

May 29, 2016, 02:32 PM	#66
rock185 Senior Member Join Date: September 2, 2001 Location: Out West in Rim Country Posts: 1,091	Now that I'm retired I really don't have a schedule. My main concerns with duty/carry ammo is not that it won't go bang, but rather with things like bullet push back, rims getting dinged up,etc. Not much of an issue back during the days when the revolver reigned supreme, but more of an issue in today's semi-auto world. During almost 40 years in LE though, duty ammo was replaced once a year. FWIW, a few years ago I had the opportunity to chronograph some old factory Winchester .357 Magnum 125 grain duty ammo that had been stored in less than ideal conditions. It had been stored in a shed exposed to Summer temperatures of 100+ degrees for something I suspect was 20 years or more. I tested ammo from 4 different boxes. It all went bang, but velocities tended to be erratic......... __________________ COTEP 640, NRA Life

August 22, 2016, 10:16 PM	#67
Smoothshooter Junior Member Join Date: January 20, 2016 Location: SW Missouri Posts: 9	Why are you asking specifically about replacing hollow points? I am not aware they go bad any sooner than anything else. I personally carry handloaded lead full wadcutters or semi-wadcutters, and have never had any of my carry ammo fail to go off, even when several years old. I shoot quite a bit however, and the ammo in my carry guns is usually fired within a couple of months or less.

August 25, 2016, 12:02 AM	#68
xcc_rider Senior Member Join Date: March 25, 2016 Posts: 169	I bought a box of Win Silvertips shortly after I got my 1911. They were always loaded\carried be it on my person or in a vehicle. A year or two ago I burned thru my remaining 3 mags of 40 yr old Silvertips in the belief they were too old and unreliable. Each one went BANG and I realized I wasted a bunch of $$$

August 25, 2016, 11:45 AM	#69
SteelPig Junior Member Join Date: August 24, 2016 Posts: 2	Duty ammo get swapped out during Annual Quals. Have qualify with any other carry weapons too, so those rigs get emptied during quals too. Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk

September 23, 2016, 10:39 PM	#70
Wheelgun Senior Member Join Date: September 10, 2001 Location: New England Posts: 105	I don't have a set schedule for it, but probably average about once a month or so. I try to shoot a box of my carry ammo at least that often. POI and felt recoil seem to differ compared to the generic round ball practice ammo.

September 24, 2016, 08:45 AM	#72
Cheapshooter Senior Member Join Date: December 2, 2007 Location: Missouri Posts: 8,306	When ever I go to the range, and when it comes time to practice with my carry gun and I forget to change over to fmj range ammo! Or once a month like my underwear. __________________ Cheapshooter's rules of gun ownership #1: NEVER SELL OR TRADE ANYTHING!

September 26, 2016, 02:51 PM	#74
849ACSO Senior Member Join Date: September 21, 2014 Location: Somewhere in the middle Posts: 629	As a full time LEO and firearms instructor, this is a shameful story to tell, but.................. When you're teaching others, you sometimes forget to take time for yourself. I have some mags loaded with duty rounds, and some with practice rounds. When teaching, I change mags out to practice rounds so I'm not burning $2 every time I pull the trigger to show someone something. During one of those times, I used my practice stuff and had one of the other instructors there run me through my qualification. Then later, the duty stuff got put back in. A few times of that got me some 3 year old duty ammo in my daily carry that I sweat all over, get rain down in, dust up in, blah, blah, blah............. Guess what?? It all functioned flawlessly............... Nothing to talk about in this thread. I would have complete faith in my duty ammo if I only changed it once every 5 years........... __________________ "The day you stop learning SHOULD directly coincide with the day you stop breathing."

September 26, 2016, 03:53 PM	#75
Lohman446 Senior Member Join Date: April 22, 2016 Posts: 2,192	I had some old Corbon (I think DPX) rounds fail the other day. They had sat around awhile and had been my carry ammo at one point. Had 2 failures out of 6. Not overly impressive. I had switched out to Federal HST as carry ammo before this though. I did recycle both of those (I could see the hammer strike on the primer) and they fired fine on the second round. Fired 50 rounds of Federal after that with no failures.