TFL Braintrust question: Sig 938 or Springfield XDs 9

farmboy · March 30, 2014, 12:44 PM

I'm looking to switch up my carry a little bit. I've come to the conclusion that I just don't need to carry around a 21 round super fire breathing 7 pound chunk of weaponry. ( I exaggerate of course.

)

I'm trying to narrow my choices, and I'm recently considering the XDs 9 (heavily favored) and the Sig 938.

I will be carrying OWB, and for those that my wonder, yes, I've got a pretty good carry belt, and I do occasionally carry my SP101 in a Simply Rugged holster with no issues.

So, of the two, which do you guys prefer?

Chris_B · March 30, 2014, 12:50 PM

Oh man. Asking this on TFL? That's easy:

BUY BOTH!

Uncle Malice · March 30, 2014, 01:05 PM

Both are excellent guns, similar in size, but different manual of arms. I think that one has to come down to personal preference.

If money is no object, I would do for the Sig. If you're leaning towards the XDS, I would personally go M&P Shield - only because I prefer the ergos. The XDS still felt larger to me. Not sure what it was.

I don't think you can make a wrong decision between your 2 options though.

TunnelRat · March 30, 2014, 01:34 PM

FWIW, I literally just looked at these yesterday. After doing so I put a P938 on hold. I typically never buy guns this small, but something about the P938 just appeals to me. The XDS seemed nice, but the trigger wasn't great by any stretch and the P938 trigger was much better than I anticipated. The P938 I looked at had the rubber grip. It might be worth comparing that to the typical flatter grips if you can. With the rubber grips and pinky extension it felt surprisingly good in my hand for such a small gun. Either would serve you well I think.

Ibmikey · March 30, 2014, 02:43 PM

My 938 is a neat shooting gun, never had a hic-up and really easy recoil. I have the G10 grips and extended mag which helps a lot.

Mystro · March 30, 2014, 02:46 PM

The P938 is as good as it gets for a small handgun.

kcub · March 30, 2014, 03:42 PM

neither

TunnelRat · March 30, 2014, 03:53 PM

^ One word answers aren't very constructive.

9mmsnoopy · March 30, 2014, 08:20 PM

The P938 is excellent, I have one. My past experience with a Springfield XD9 and now an XDs .45 have been very positive as well.

Don't think you could go wrong with either.

kcub · March 31, 2014, 04:41 AM

The 938 has a reassembly design issue wherein you can get the extractor out of position and require a detail strip to fix.

The xds 45 I had was not reliable even after a trip back to springfield.

Ergo, neither.

The Walther PPS is perfectly reliable (at least the two 9mms and 2 .40's I own are) and is stone simple to disassemble and reassemble.

Ibmikey · March 31, 2014, 06:10 AM

I have had my 938 apart numerous times and the extractor just sat in it's recess in the slide with a pin holding it in place. This is the same design used by firearms makers for close to 100 years and in no way could malfunction and cause you to detail strip the pistol. If you mean EJECTOR simply pushing it down on reassembly takes care of it. The 938 and 238 are basically the same design and have been produced in the multiple thousands so I doubt Sig would allow any serious flaw to continue without correction. I have both of these Sig's and shot many rounds without incident.

TunnelRat · March 31, 2014, 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcub

The 938 has a reassembly design issue wherein you can get the extractor out of position and require a detail strip to fix.

The xds 45 I had was not reliable even after a trip back to springfield.

Ergo, neither.

The Walther PPS is perfectly reliable (at least the two 9mms and 2 .40's I own are) and is stone simple to disassemble and reassemble.

First I have ever heard of the design error. Will have to look it up.

kcub · March 31, 2014, 08:22 AM

I stand corrected, ejector. If you push it too far you have a real project on your hands.

The 238 has the same issue as does the Colt Mustang.

Uncle Malice · March 31, 2014, 08:40 AM

I kinda want to get one now just to test and see if this is a real issue. heh.

presspics · March 31, 2014, 10:01 AM

I really like the XDs pistols. I had one in 45 that was great. I have never handled the SIG so I have a bias here.

Targa · March 31, 2014, 10:29 AM

If it were my money it would be the XDS. Money being the key word, the Sig is just a bit to pricey for me but it sure is good looking.

Ruger45LC · March 31, 2014, 10:33 AM

Tough call I suppose, maybe I'd lean towards the XDs. Did you rule out the Kahr CM9?

TunnelRat · March 31, 2014, 10:46 AM

Quote:

If it were my money it would be the XDS. Money being the key word, the Sig is just a bit to pricey for me but it sure is good looking.

I just put a P938 on hold. Was $650. More expensive than an XDS? Yea, but not by milestones. Besides, if we're true to this forums typical guidelines, the fact that the SIG is metal means it should cost more anyway right?

Targa · March 31, 2014, 01:41 PM

True and then throw in the 1911 style of it and it's priceless...

. Nice pistol, plus it is a Sig.

thedudeabides · March 31, 2014, 01:50 PM

I'd get the P238, the recoil is less snappy.

dakiwi13 · March 31, 2014, 02:10 PM

I owned a 938, it was way to small and i have small hands

PetahW · March 31, 2014, 03:59 PM

.

Did you ever have to make up your mind ?
You pick up on one, and leave the other behind
It's not often easy, and not often kind,
Did you ever have to make up your mind ?

(Lovin' Spoonful) .

.

Bart Noir · March 31, 2014, 07:54 PM

Have you noticed that the 4-inch XD(s) is now in the stores?

So you have to ask which XD(s) you want, as your 3rd choice.

Bart Noir

farmboy · March 31, 2014, 09:27 PM

I've noticed that. It might be a game changer for me. I was leaning towards the 938, but now I guess I'll just have to wait and see.

Besides, I just learned of the S&W Shield, and I'd like to see that, too.

Uncle Malice · March 31, 2014, 10:17 PM

For a gun that size, my vote is for the Shield, at any price. The shield really does a great job of making a small ccw gun into a true fighting pistol. I would take it over the Sig, the XDS, or the Kimber Solo. They really hit a home run with that gun.

March 30, 2014, 12:44 PM	#1
farmboy Senior Member Join Date: June 4, 2001 Location: Iowa Posts: 261	TFL Braintrust question: Sig 938 or Springfield XDs 9 I'm looking to switch up my carry a little bit. I've come to the conclusion that I just don't need to carry around a 21 round super fire breathing 7 pound chunk of weaponry. ( I exaggerate of course. ) I'm trying to narrow my choices, and I'm recently considering the XDs 9 (heavily favored) and the Sig 938. I will be carrying OWB, and for those that my wonder, yes, I've got a pretty good carry belt, and I do occasionally carry my SP101 in a Simply Rugged holster with no issues. So, of the two, which do you guys prefer?

March 30, 2014, 01:05 PM	#3
Uncle Malice Senior Member Join Date: May 11, 2009 Location: Phoenix Posts: 4,580	Both are excellent guns, similar in size, but different manual of arms. I think that one has to come down to personal preference. If money is no object, I would do for the Sig. If you're leaning towards the XDS, I would personally go M&P Shield - only because I prefer the ergos. The XDS still felt larger to me. Not sure what it was. I don't think you can make a wrong decision between your 2 options though. __________________ Handguns: 2x Glock 19.4 \| Glock 26.4 \| HK USP 9 \| HK P2000 \| HK VP9 SK \| HK P30 \| CZ Shadow 2 \| CZ P-10 C \| CZ P-07 \| CZP-01 \| S&W 360PD Rifles: DDM4 \| SGL 21 \| SAM7K \| Draco \| PSA PDW SBR \| ASA Side-Charger SBR \| CZ Scorpion K SBR \| Aero M4E1 9" 300blk SBR \| Angstadt Jack9 SBR \| Savage Mark II FV-SR Shotguns: Mossberg 590A1 20" SP \| Mossberg Shockwave

March 30, 2014, 01:34 PM	#4
TunnelRat Senior Member Join Date: May 22, 2011 Posts: 12,214	FWIW, I literally just looked at these yesterday. After doing so I put a P938 on hold. I typically never buy guns this small, but something about the P938 just appeals to me. The XDS seemed nice, but the trigger wasn't great by any stretch and the P938 trigger was much better than I anticipated. The P938 I looked at had the rubber grip. It might be worth comparing that to the typical flatter grips if you can. With the rubber grips and pinky extension it felt surprisingly good in my hand for such a small gun. Either would serve you well I think. __________________ Know the status of your weapon Keep your muzzle oriented so that no one will be hurt if the firearm discharges Keep your finger off the trigger until you have an adequate sight picture Maintain situational awareness Last edited by TunnelRat; March 30, 2014 at 02:50 PM.

March 30, 2014, 02:46 PM	#6
Mystro Senior Member Join Date: November 26, 2004 Location: Central Pa. Posts: 1,528	The P938 is as good as it gets for a small handgun. __________________ "I'm a good guy with a gun" What do I care if I give up some freedom or rights?....The Goverment will take care of me. This kind of thinking is now in the majority and it should concern you. "Ask not what you can do for your country, but what free entitlements you can bleed from your country"

March 30, 2014, 03:53 PM	#8
TunnelRat Senior Member Join Date: May 22, 2011 Posts: 12,214	^ One word answers aren't very constructive. __________________ Know the status of your weapon Keep your muzzle oriented so that no one will be hurt if the firearm discharges Keep your finger off the trigger until you have an adequate sight picture Maintain situational awareness

March 30, 2014, 12:50 PM	#2
Chris_B Senior Member Join Date: February 9, 2007 Posts: 3,101	Oh man. Asking this on TFL? That's easy: BUY BOTH!

March 30, 2014, 02:43 PM	#5
Ibmikey Senior Member Join Date: June 1, 2013 Location: Now relocated to Texas Posts: 2,943	My 938 is a neat shooting gun, never had a hic-up and really easy recoil. I have the G10 grips and extended mag which helps a lot.

March 30, 2014, 03:42 PM	#7
kcub Senior Member Join Date: October 24, 2010 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 3,318	neither

March 30, 2014, 08:20 PM	#9
9mmsnoopy Senior Member Join Date: December 14, 2004 Location: Thrillsville ,Tx Posts: 904	The P938 is excellent, I have one. My past experience with a Springfield XD9 and now an XDs .45 have been very positive as well. Don't think you could go wrong with either. __________________ beretta cx4 storm .40 caliber sig P290 Kahr PM9 Glock 26 Bushmaster AR15

March 31, 2014, 04:41 AM	#10
kcub Senior Member Join Date: October 24, 2010 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 3,318	The 938 has a reassembly design issue wherein you can get the extractor out of position and require a detail strip to fix. The xds 45 I had was not reliable even after a trip back to springfield. Ergo, neither. The Walther PPS is perfectly reliable (at least the two 9mms and 2 .40's I own are) and is stone simple to disassemble and reassemble.

March 31, 2014, 06:10 AM	#11
Ibmikey Senior Member Join Date: June 1, 2013 Location: Now relocated to Texas Posts: 2,943	I have had my 938 apart numerous times and the extractor just sat in it's recess in the slide with a pin holding it in place. This is the same design used by firearms makers for close to 100 years and in no way could malfunction and cause you to detail strip the pistol. If you mean EJECTOR simply pushing it down on reassembly takes care of it. The 938 and 238 are basically the same design and have been produced in the multiple thousands so I doubt Sig would allow any serious flaw to continue without correction. I have both of these Sig's and shot many rounds without incident.

March 31, 2014, 08:22 AM	#13
kcub Senior Member Join Date: October 24, 2010 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 3,318	I stand corrected, ejector. If you push it too far you have a real project on your hands. The 238 has the same issue as does the Colt Mustang.

March 31, 2014, 08:40 AM	#14
Uncle Malice Senior Member Join Date: May 11, 2009 Location: Phoenix Posts: 4,580	I kinda want to get one now just to test and see if this is a real issue. heh. __________________ Handguns: 2x Glock 19.4 \| Glock 26.4 \| HK USP 9 \| HK P2000 \| HK VP9 SK \| HK P30 \| CZ Shadow 2 \| CZ P-10 C \| CZ P-07 \| CZP-01 \| S&W 360PD Rifles: DDM4 \| SGL 21 \| SAM7K \| Draco \| PSA PDW SBR \| ASA Side-Charger SBR \| CZ Scorpion K SBR \| Aero M4E1 9" 300blk SBR \| Angstadt Jack9 SBR \| Savage Mark II FV-SR Shotguns: Mossberg 590A1 20" SP \| Mossberg Shockwave

March 31, 2014, 10:01 AM	#15
presspics Senior Member Join Date: July 5, 2001 Location: NH Posts: 343	I really like the XDs pistols. I had one in 45 that was great. I have never handled the SIG so I have a bias here. __________________ "Quid Clarius Astris"

March 31, 2014, 10:29 AM	#16
Targa Senior Member Join Date: March 20, 2014 Posts: 2,084	If it were my money it would be the XDS. Money being the key word, the Sig is just a bit to pricey for me but it sure is good looking.

March 31, 2014, 10:33 AM	#17
Ruger45LC Senior Member Join Date: July 24, 2005 Location: Kentucky Posts: 768	Tough call I suppose, maybe I'd lean towards the XDs. Did you rule out the Kahr CM9?

March 31, 2014, 01:41 PM	#19
Targa Senior Member Join Date: March 20, 2014 Posts: 2,084	True and then throw in the 1911 style of it and it's priceless.... Nice pistol, plus it is a Sig.

March 31, 2014, 01:50 PM	#20
thedudeabides Senior Member Join Date: August 22, 2012 Posts: 1,031	I'd get the P238, the recoil is less snappy. __________________ OK, so not all plastic guns are bad

March 31, 2014, 02:10 PM	#21
dakiwi13 Senior Member Join Date: February 23, 2012 Location: athens, ga Posts: 150	I owned a 938, it was way to small and i have small hands

March 31, 2014, 03:59 PM	#22
PetahW Senior Member Join Date: September 19, 2008 Posts: 4,678	. Did you ever have to make up your mind ? You pick up on one, and leave the other behind It's not often easy, and not often kind, Did you ever have to make up your mind ? (Lovin' Spoonful) . .

March 31, 2014, 07:54 PM	#23
Bart Noir Senior Member Join Date: August 5, 2000 Location: Puget Sound, USA Posts: 2,215	And to mess with your mind even more----- Have you noticed that the 4-inch XD(s) is now in the stores? So you have to ask which XD(s) you want, as your 3rd choice. Bart Noir __________________ Be of good cheer and mindful of your gun muzzle!

March 31, 2014, 09:27 PM	#24
farmboy Senior Member Join Date: June 4, 2001 Location: Iowa Posts: 261	I've noticed that. It might be a game changer for me. I was leaning towards the 938, but now I guess I'll just have to wait and see. Besides, I just learned of the S&W Shield, and I'd like to see that, too.

March 31, 2014, 10:17 PM	#25
Uncle Malice Senior Member Join Date: May 11, 2009 Location: Phoenix Posts: 4,580	For a gun that size, my vote is for the Shield, at any price. The shield really does a great job of making a small ccw gun into a true fighting pistol. I would take it over the Sig, the XDS, or the Kimber Solo. They really hit a home run with that gun. __________________ Handguns: 2x Glock 19.4 \| Glock 26.4 \| HK USP 9 \| HK P2000 \| HK VP9 SK \| HK P30 \| CZ Shadow 2 \| CZ P-10 C \| CZ P-07 \| CZP-01 \| S&W 360PD Rifles: DDM4 \| SGL 21 \| SAM7K \| Draco \| PSA PDW SBR \| ASA Side-Charger SBR \| CZ Scorpion K SBR \| Aero M4E1 9" 300blk SBR \| Angstadt Jack9 SBR \| Savage Mark II FV-SR Shotguns: Mossberg 590A1 20" SP \| Mossberg Shockwave

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