|
Forum Rules | Firearms Safety | Firearms Photos | Links | Library | Lost Password | Email Changes |
Register | FAQ | Calendar | Search | Today's Posts | Mark Forums Read |
|
Thread Tools | Search this Thread |
March 31, 2013, 06:40 PM | #51 |
Member
Join Date: March 2, 2012
Location: Northwest UK
Posts: 36
|
Shooting a 7.62x51mm NATO 'Battle Rifle' on anything other that semi-auto is a waste of ammunition! That anyone would regard a semi-automatic only rifle as not a weapon of war is a bit of a wierd comment.
Our SLRs were semi-auto only, because the British doctrine was for aimed semi-auto fire; even now with SA80A2 (which is selective fire) the only time one tends to use automatic is either a) close quarters battle, or b) the lead scout in an ambush will empty his magazine to create temporary noise and fire superiority, whilst the remainder of the patrol counterattacks. I've fired an FN FAL on automatic; the 1st and 2nd rounds tend to be on target, but the remainder are high. It's difficult to control. In the Falklands we had 5 magazines per rifle and a 150-round bandolier; if you were shooting too rapidly someone would tell you to slow down, because we had to make the rounds count.
__________________
Mike |
March 31, 2013, 07:08 PM | #52 |
Senior Member
Join Date: February 4, 2013
Posts: 135
|
Re: All around best 308 battle rifle
LAR 8
|
April 7, 2013, 11:54 AM | #53 |
Junior member
Join Date: February 21, 2012
Location: Woodhaven MI
Posts: 477
|
M14?
|
April 7, 2013, 12:22 PM | #54 |
Staff
Join Date: November 2, 1998
Location: Colorado
Posts: 21,824
|
Most accurate? AR-10 type system with the HK delayed blowback coming in second.
Forget the M-14. It's a prima donna and must be treated as such. Great gun, but its tempermental.
__________________
Vigilantibus et non dormientibus jura subveniunt. Molon Labe! |
April 7, 2013, 03:39 PM | #55 |
Senior Member
Join Date: September 19, 2012
Location: Near Gainesville Fl.
Posts: 224
|
Saiga
Try the Saiga .308
__________________
Criminals obey gun laws in the same way politicians follow their oaths to office - Anonymous It's better to be silent and called a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt |
April 7, 2013, 09:43 PM | #56 |
Senior Member
Join Date: March 12, 2005
Location: Bora Bora
Posts: 932
|
Very highly likely soon to be this one.
|
April 7, 2013, 10:15 PM | #57 |
Senior Member
Join Date: June 16, 2007
Location: Ory-gun
Posts: 508
|
this last post...i got a serious rifle woody over. what is the scuddle but on that?
__________________
Molon Labe |
April 7, 2013, 10:28 PM | #58 |
Member
Join Date: August 14, 2012
Posts: 33
|
I think $500 -$1200 for a semi auto .308 is pretty unrealistic in the current climate.
- Fals are $1700 or more. I have not seen the Imbel Fals that were around $900 for quite some time. Yes, I know atlantic has them on their site but they've been sold out for months. I've only been able to find the DSA Fals which start at $1700 -Cheapest DPMS AR I've seen is $1500 - At the very top of your scale you can find some PTR's (atlantic firearms has them) for $1100. Remember all of those prices are pre tax, pre shipping, and pre transfer fee. I just don't see a .308 under $1k unless its some lemon from Century. Buying firearms online from Century is like playing the slots. You just never know what your going to end up with. On a positive note atlantic firearms has some nice AK 74's and 47's. Considering some jack wagons are trying to sell WASR 10's for $900, they have a nice selection of higher end AK's (Arsenal, Saiga, Maadi, Krebs Custom, etc.) from $900 and up. |
April 8, 2013, 01:17 AM | #59 |
Senior Member
Join Date: November 4, 2012
Location: idaho
Posts: 164
|
For your price point, look at the fnar, you can add iron sights to the rail, with the rail and ejector configuration, it is easier to scope than the M1A...and scope reliably. Mine shoots sub MOA @ 100 yards and presumably beyond that, but with ammo availability, I have not tried much in the way of longer groupings. Not a light gun, but not bad either.
|
April 8, 2013, 06:37 AM | #60 |
Senior Member
Join Date: August 9, 2011
Posts: 1,293
|
[IMG][/IMG]
FNAR is the way to go. Can be had in 16" like mine, 20" and heavy barrel 20". All three variants will shoot sub moa and can be had for about $1200. Only down side is mags are about $50 a piece. |
April 15, 2013, 10:48 AM | #62 |
Junior member
Join Date: April 14, 2013
Location: Erph
Posts: 110
|
I've owned both the FAL (2 different ones), and the M1A.
I have to give the best credit to the M1A. Reasons: Lighter More accurate The FAL is still an awesome rifle. |
April 15, 2013, 11:00 AM | #63 |
Senior Member
Join Date: December 6, 2001
Location: texas
Posts: 260
|
For the price range mentioned, a .308 Garand is what came to mind.
Can't really comment much on them, but that is what I would be looking for in that price range. |
April 15, 2013, 12:37 PM | #64 |
Senior Member
Join Date: June 16, 2007
Location: Ory-gun
Posts: 508
|
ive got a Garand so that one is out thanks though
im still stuck on the M1A, there is just something about a good piece of American wood and steel that melts my heart
__________________
Molon Labe |
April 15, 2013, 08:30 PM | #65 |
Senior Member
Join Date: October 26, 2008
Posts: 726
|
Has anyone mentioned the SCAR17S?
Just sold my PTR, but currently have a SIG716 and M1A; the SCAR really is a huge step forward in engineering.
__________________
SailSkiDrive Hk USP 45 Expert, USP 40, USP 9, SIG P226, S&W M&P9, Hk 4, Makarov, Desert Eagle 40, Beretta FS92 Centurion, Kimber TLEII 1911A1, Glock 22, SIG P225, 1943 Rem Rand 1911A1, S&W mod 64, Walther PPQ, SIG P229, Browning BDA 45 (SIG P220), Hk45, SIG P230 |
April 15, 2013, 09:05 PM | #66 |
Member
Join Date: December 12, 2010
Location: Surrounded by pines in Wi.
Posts: 97
|
Hands down for the price and reliability and accuracy...
Rock River LAR 8 Good luck in your search... Clarence
__________________
B.E. Master indoor and out Distinguished Revolver Badge #99 |
April 16, 2013, 06:45 AM | #67 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: August 9, 2011
Posts: 1,293
|
Quote:
|
|
April 16, 2013, 11:39 AM | #68 |
Senior Member
Join Date: October 26, 2008
Posts: 726
|
Hmmm... epic suggestion fail on my part.
$1k is pretty unrealistic for today's climate.
__________________
SailSkiDrive Hk USP 45 Expert, USP 40, USP 9, SIG P226, S&W M&P9, Hk 4, Makarov, Desert Eagle 40, Beretta FS92 Centurion, Kimber TLEII 1911A1, Glock 22, SIG P225, 1943 Rem Rand 1911A1, S&W mod 64, Walther PPQ, SIG P229, Browning BDA 45 (SIG P220), Hk45, SIG P230 |
April 16, 2013, 11:45 AM | #69 |
Senior Member
Join Date: October 26, 2012
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 779
|
That's why I think his only alternatives for a .308 BR is a VEPR, Saiga .308, or a CETME
Even the cheap FALs are gonna be minimum 1200
__________________
I told the new me, "Meet me at the bus station and hold a sign that reads: 'Today is the first day of the rest of your life.'" But the old me met me with a sign that read: "Welcome back." Who you are is not a function of where you are. -Off Minor |
April 16, 2013, 12:32 PM | #70 |
Junior member
Join Date: April 14, 2013
Location: Erph
Posts: 110
|
$1200 for a FAL?
I got one, years ago of course, for $600... I think you can score a basic one for under $1K... I could be out of touch though. |
April 16, 2013, 01:02 PM | #71 |
Senior Member
Join Date: January 28, 2006
Posts: 1,482
|
I want to add an FAL to the collection eventually, but the ones I see assembled are either Century builds which from what I've read are of questionable quality, or DSArms which is running $1200+ pre panic.
I understand they are easy to build, and have thought about getting a receiver and a parts kit from SARCO, but then you get into the whole 922 discussion.
__________________
NRA Life Member "We have enough gun control. What we need is idiot control." |
April 16, 2013, 01:05 PM | #72 |
Junior member
Join Date: April 14, 2013
Location: Erph
Posts: 110
|
Wow, I got my paratroooper model FAL, used, for $1525... and would sell it for the same. I've barely used it, to be honest. I love my M1A so much.
|
April 16, 2013, 01:20 PM | #73 |
Senior Member
Join Date: February 10, 2009
Location: Mississippi
Posts: 727
|
Wal Mart sells a flat top DPMS AR-10 for $897.
|
April 16, 2013, 01:44 PM | #74 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: October 26, 2012
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 779
|
Quote:
__________________
I told the new me, "Meet me at the bus station and hold a sign that reads: 'Today is the first day of the rest of your life.'" But the old me met me with a sign that read: "Welcome back." Who you are is not a function of where you are. -Off Minor |
|
April 16, 2013, 02:05 PM | #75 |
Senior Member
Join Date: November 23, 2009
Posts: 3,963
|
For your price point, if you are looking for a dependable, works-every-time, spare-parts-available, well-designed, accurate battle rifle, start looking at either a good bolt-action .308, if you are stuck on the caliber, or a semi-auto .223. You're not going to get a reliable gun with the funds you have, unless you happen to luck into a deal somewhere or prices drop by 70 percent.
|
Thread Tools | Search this Thread |
|
|