How do you think the gun laws are in México?

Brian the gunner · December 2, 2014, 09:19 PM

How do you think the gun laws are in México?

<<Clarification: The OP lives in Mexico and is curious about the perceptions that those outside of Mexico have about the firearm laws in Mexico. JohnKSa>>

James K · December 2, 2014, 09:39 PM

A question better asked of a local attorney. I do know is it very difficult for the average citizen to purchase a handgun, and that there is only one place to do so, the defense department store in the DF. If you are asking about guns currently owned by citizens, I don't know and will repeat that such questions are for a local lawyer.

Of course, as with most countries which effectively ban guns for their citizens, criminals seem to have no problems obtaining whatever they need. It is interesting that while Mexican authorities never cease playing to the U.S. gun control groups by claiming that illegal guns come from the U.S., the widespread influx of guns from Venezuela has long been ignored. That communist state has long sought to destabilize Mexico and other Latin American nations.

Jim

Brian the gunner · December 2, 2014, 09:54 PM

I have knowledge of gun laws in México. I am just curios about what those outside of Mexico think about the laws in México.
It's just curiosity

SVO · December 2, 2014, 10:11 PM

Is this some sort of Easter Egg hunt?

**Tom Servo** · December 2, 2014, 10:14 PM

There's no need for a silly quiz if you have novel information to provide.

That said, there's a fairly accurate summary here.

**44 AMP** · December 2, 2014, 11:14 PM

Is the guy who made the wrong turn and wound up in Mexico with his grandfather's shotgun in his camper still in jail down there? Its been months, or more since I heard anything about that case.

How do I think are the gun laws in Mexico?

I think they suck. You may think this a bit blunt, but you did ask.

jimbob86 · December 2, 2014, 11:22 PM

Most of my information regarding guns in Mexico is second-hand, but from what I understand, they are:
1)mostly illegal, officially.
2)nearly everyone either has or can get one.

It has been my experience that Laws are more ..... um ...... shall we say, "guidelines", in Mexico ..... that, I have seen firsthand.

Microgunner · December 2, 2014, 11:56 PM

I don't know about Mexico but the Mexican residents here in Florida buy lots of guns at our shop and are almost always surprised that they are allowed to do so.
1911s in 38 super rank high on their list.

Slopemeno · December 3, 2014, 01:02 AM

I know a US citizen (lived in Bellflower CA) who legally imported a shotgun and kept it in a cabin he and some friends owned in Mexico. He said it was actually pretty easy- fill out the paperwork, get your permit, bring the paperwork on the trip. He left the shotgun down there as he thought it would be less trouble that way.

He did say the bird hunting was out of this world.

aarondhgraham · December 3, 2014, 10:54 AM

Quote:

How do you think the gun laws are in México?

Grammatically,,,
This makes no sense to me.

I have no idea what the OP wants to know.

Aarond

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Colt46 · December 3, 2014, 11:31 AM

To answer the OP question:
The gun laws do exactly what they are intended to do. Pretty much make the masses dependant on a horribly incompetent and corrupt justice system.

An absolute lawless criminal class is the anvil they are being beaten against.

There are far more guns in the hands of the mexican public than officials will admit to. I suppose most mexican gun owners keep pretty mum about what they keep to protect themselves with.

jimbob86 · December 3, 2014, 11:33 AM

aarond, the OP (IIRC) is not a native english speaker. His grammar is far better than mine would be in Spanish (or German, for that matter).

I'm pretty sure he's asking what we think of the gun laws in Mexico.

Bella · December 3, 2014, 11:41 AM

They can't be worse than California's gun laws.

jimbob86 · December 3, 2014, 12:00 PM

Bella, I would not bet on that.

As I understand it, calibers used by the Military are prohibited to civilians ...... no .45ACP, thus the popularity of the .38Super .....

micromontenegro · December 3, 2014, 12:06 PM

Actually, the .38 Super is also forbidden. .38 Spl/380 is the upper limit for civilians.

Double Naught Spy · December 3, 2014, 12:37 PM

Quote:

Is the guy who made the wrong turn and wound up in Mexico with his grandfather's shotgun in his camper still in jail down there? Its been months, or more since I heard anything about that case.

This guy?
http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/08/justic...mexico-prison/

He is out.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/n...home/18305437/

Or maybe this guy? He had the antique shotgun. You haven't heard about him in months because he has been out since Dec 2012.
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/12...-prison-today/

aarondhgraham · December 3, 2014, 02:45 PM

Quote:

aarond, the OP (IIRC) is not a native english speaker. His grammar is far better than mine would be in Spanish (or German, for that matter).

I'm pretty sure he's asking what we think of the gun laws in Mexico.

Sorry,,,
I wasn't trying to be snide.

I was just asking for clarification as to what he wanted to know.

Aarond

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jrobin3360 · December 3, 2014, 03:38 PM

I'm 2000 miles from Mexico and have no plans on visiting so I could care less. Gun laws in this country are repressive enough, why [care] about someplace else?

Brian the gunner · December 3, 2014, 04:13 PM

My English is not good (I think needless to say

). I understand the English, but I can't speak or write in English with sense.

Nathan · December 3, 2014, 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian the...

My English is not good (I think needless to say). I understand the English, but I can't speak or write in English with sense.

Don't worry....we Americans butcher English regularly too, but when we get online, we fancy ourselves as English teachers! Obviously, your English is good enough. It was that your error was not related to common English errors which seem to follow race, region or schooling level. That is why you got singled out!! No harm no foul.

Sorry, I know little about Mexican gun laws except that they do little to reduce gun numbers or crime, they just sort out the "haves" and "have not's".

Microgunner · December 3, 2014, 04:48 PM

Well Brian, are you going to tell us about Mexican gun laws?

Brian the gunner · December 3, 2014, 07:30 PM

Basically the larger calibers allowed for civilians are:
Pistol = 9mm Makarov, .357 sig and 7.62x25mm Tokarev
Revolver = .38 Special
Rifles and carbines = There is no limit
Shotguns= 12 Gauge

Brian the gunner · December 3, 2014, 07:33 PM

I think gun laws are stupid, an offender does not respect the laws.

skizzums · December 3, 2014, 08:54 PM

your preaching to the choir, kind of like California's proposal for banning civilian body armour possession/purchase, the only instance of it being an issue(of my knowledge) is the big televised bank robbery, but from the looks of their automatic rifles, I don't think they would care to comply with the "safe and responsible"(BAN) body armor law

Microgunner · December 3, 2014, 09:07 PM

Brian, is this true in all Mexican states? And what's required to purchase a firearm in Mexico?

December 2, 2014, 09:19 PM	#1
Brian the gunner Member Join Date: September 25, 2013 Location: Bahía de Banderas,Méxic Posts: 81	How do you think the gun laws are in México? How do you think the gun laws are in México? <<Clarification: The OP lives in Mexico and is curious about the perceptions that those outside of Mexico have about the firearm laws in Mexico. JohnKSa>> Last edited by JohnKSa; December 7, 2014 at 01:13 AM. Reason: .

December 2, 2014, 10:14 PM	#5
Tom Servo Staff Join Date: September 27, 2008 Location: Foothills of the Appalachians Posts: 13,059	There's no need for a silly quiz if you have novel information to provide. That said, there's a fairly accurate summary here. __________________ Sometimes it’s nice not to destroy the world for a change. --Randall Munroe

December 2, 2014, 11:14 PM	#6
44 AMP Staff Join Date: March 11, 2006 Location: Upper US Posts: 28,849	Is the guy who made the wrong turn and wound up in Mexico with his grandfather's shotgun in his camper still in jail down there? Its been months, or more since I heard anything about that case. How do I think are the gun laws in Mexico? I think they suck. You may think this a bit blunt, but you did ask. __________________ All else being equal (and it almost never is) bigger bullets tend to work better.

December 2, 2014, 11:56 PM	#8
Microgunner Senior Member Join Date: March 6, 2006 Location: Central Florida Posts: 3,324	I don't know about Mexico but the Mexican residents here in Florida buy lots of guns at our shop and are almost always surprised that they are allowed to do so. 1911s in 38 super rank high on their list. __________________ *Proud NRA Benefactor Member*

December 3, 2014, 11:31 AM	#11
Colt46 Senior Member Join Date: November 25, 2002 Location: Campbell Ca Posts: 1,090	could be English is not his primary language To answer the OP question: The gun laws do exactly what they are intended to do. Pretty much make the masses dependant on a horribly incompetent and corrupt justice system. An absolute lawless criminal class is the anvil they are being beaten against. There are far more guns in the hands of the mexican public than officials will admit to. I suppose most mexican gun owners keep pretty mum about what they keep to protect themselves with.

December 2, 2014, 09:39 PM	#2
James K Member In Memoriam Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 24,383	A question better asked of a local attorney. I do know is it very difficult for the average citizen to purchase a handgun, and that there is only one place to do so, the defense department store in the DF. If you are asking about guns currently owned by citizens, I don't know and will repeat that such questions are for a local lawyer. Of course, as with most countries which effectively ban guns for their citizens, criminals seem to have no problems obtaining whatever they need. It is interesting that while Mexican authorities never cease playing to the U.S. gun control groups by claiming that illegal guns come from the U.S., the widespread influx of guns from Venezuela has long been ignored. That communist state has long sought to destabilize Mexico and other Latin American nations. Jim

December 2, 2014, 09:54 PM	#3
Brian the gunner Member Join Date: September 25, 2013 Location: Bahía de Banderas,Méxic Posts: 81	I have knowledge of gun laws in México. I am just curios about what those outside of Mexico think about the laws in México. It's just curiosity

December 2, 2014, 10:11 PM	#4
SVO Senior Member Join Date: December 20, 2009 Location: Texas Gulf Coast Posts: 728	Is this some sort of Easter Egg hunt?

December 2, 2014, 11:22 PM	#7
jimbob86 Junior member Join Date: October 4, 2007 Location: All the way to NEBRASKA Posts: 8,722	Most of my information regarding guns in Mexico is second-hand, but from what I understand, they are: 1)mostly illegal, officially. 2)nearly everyone either has or can get one. It has been my experience that Laws are more ..... um ...... shall we say, "guidelines", in Mexico ..... that, I have seen firsthand.

December 3, 2014, 01:02 AM	#9
Slopemeno Senior Member Join Date: January 19, 2007 Posts: 2,663	I know a US citizen (lived in Bellflower CA) who legally imported a shotgun and kept it in a cabin he and some friends owned in Mexico. He said it was actually pretty easy- fill out the paperwork, get your permit, bring the paperwork on the trip. He left the shotgun down there as he thought it would be less trouble that way. He did say the bird hunting was out of this world.

December 3, 2014, 11:33 AM	#12
jimbob86 Junior member Join Date: October 4, 2007 Location: All the way to NEBRASKA Posts: 8,722	aarond, the OP (IIRC) is not a native english speaker. His grammar is far better than mine would be in Spanish (or German, for that matter). I'm pretty sure he's asking what we think of the gun laws in Mexico.

December 3, 2014, 11:41 AM	#13
Bella Senior Member Join Date: July 6, 2009 Posts: 341	They can't be worse than California's gun laws.

December 3, 2014, 12:00 PM	#14
jimbob86 Junior member Join Date: October 4, 2007 Location: All the way to NEBRASKA Posts: 8,722	Bella, I would not bet on that. As I understand it, calibers used by the Military are prohibited to civilians ...... no .45ACP, thus the popularity of the .38Super .....

December 3, 2014, 12:06 PM	#15
micromontenegro Senior Member Join Date: December 28, 2010 Posts: 647	Actually, the .38 Super is also forbidden. .38 Spl/380 is the upper limit for civilians.

December 3, 2014, 03:38 PM	#18
jrobin3360 Senior Member Join Date: June 30, 2013 Location: Kentucky, near Ft Knox Posts: 153	I'm 2000 miles from Mexico and have no plans on visiting so I could care less. Gun laws in this country are repressive enough, why [care] about someplace else? Last edited by Evan Thomas; December 3, 2014 at 06:02 PM. Reason: language.

December 3, 2014, 04:13 PM	#19
Brian the gunner Member Join Date: September 25, 2013 Location: Bahía de Banderas,Méxic Posts: 81	My English is not good (I think needless to say). I understand the English, but I can't speak or write in English with sense.

December 3, 2014, 04:48 PM	#21
Microgunner Senior Member Join Date: March 6, 2006 Location: Central Florida Posts: 3,324	Well Brian, are you going to tell us about Mexican gun laws? __________________ *Proud NRA Benefactor Member*

December 3, 2014, 07:30 PM	#22
Brian the gunner Member Join Date: September 25, 2013 Location: Bahía de Banderas,Méxic Posts: 81	Basically the larger calibers allowed for civilians are: Pistol = 9mm Makarov, .357 sig and 7.62x25mm Tokarev Revolver = .38 Special Rifles and carbines = There is no limit Shotguns= 12 Gauge

December 3, 2014, 07:33 PM	#23
Brian the gunner Member Join Date: September 25, 2013 Location: Bahía de Banderas,Méxic Posts: 81	I think gun laws are stupid, an offender does not respect the laws.

December 3, 2014, 08:54 PM	#24
skizzums Senior Member Join Date: July 1, 2013 Location: Douglasville, Ga Posts: 4,615	your preaching to the choir, kind of like California's proposal for banning civilian body armour possession/purchase, the only instance of it being an issue(of my knowledge) is the big televised bank robbery, but from the looks of their automatic rifles, I don't think they would care to comply with the "safe and responsible"(BAN) body armor law __________________ My head is bloody, but unbowed

December 3, 2014, 09:07 PM	#25
Microgunner Senior Member Join Date: March 6, 2006 Location: Central Florida Posts: 3,324	Brian, is this true in all Mexican states? And what's required to purchase a firearm in Mexico? __________________ *Proud NRA Benefactor Member*