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To explain how I used the word "you":
Take "By committing a crime, you become a criminal" (note that the sentence is used for grammar, not an essential part of the debate). I'm not saying that any specific person became a criminal or committed a crime. I'm referring to any person. It would probably be better to phrase it this way: "By committing a crime, one becomes a criminal" I hope that helps. EDIT: I did some thinking and realized that most of the post was an overreaction. I apologize to anyone who read it. In place of all that junk, I will only say to go back and read what I have already posted.
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Ayoob once pointed out, on a tape I have, that if you were holding someone at gunpoint and they reached for their own gun or a gun sitting on, say, a table--- deadly force would be lawful. He felt that that one could assume that if a criminal advanced toward you when you had him a gunpoint, you'd be just as justified in using deadly force, since his actions would be consistent with arming himself with your gun. I agree. I'd be afraid of being disarmed. Ayoob didn't say that every prosecutor would necessarily see it that way---but what else is new? |
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This is a good question.
You have your gun drawn on an unarmed person and they continue to approach you in an aggressive manner. Nevermind the reasoning of why you drew your gun, lets focus on what you should do if your gun is drawn and the person keeps approaching you. What is the right thing to do? Fire on the person? Try to fend them off hand to hand? Do nothing? This is a good question for the officers in this forum as they have their guns drawn at times on people who are not armed. The only people that will determine if your actions are justified are a judge or a jury I might add... |
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Great question....I would like know this myself. Someone here posted that this happened to them and the guy fired a warning shot over the approaching person's head and they stopped. Not recommended, but what else can you do? You either aim for COM or fire the warning shot. I would be as aggressive as hell verbally before the gun is fired. You certainly don't want the BG to come at you and wrestle for your gun!
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David, was the following a spelling mistake? or are you deciding to defuse the situation, by being sociable?
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LOL! Never underestimate my poor typing ability! however, if a nice gin would solve the problem, I'd go for it<G>!
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Welcome to TFL.......
Glad to have you amongst us..........
You've already learned a valuable lesson, take everything with a grain of salt! There is a lot of information to be had on here. Some will be easy to find, some will have to be sifted through. You sure to find people who think like you do, some that seem a little extreme/timid as the case may be. Concealed carry, IMO, is much more than just basic firearms knowledge. I've been taught firearms safety since I was little, been around guns my whole life, I understand safely handling a firearm, etc. However, CCW is a whole other animal. There is much more liability involved than just simple plinking on a range. I've personally been steadily researching it for the last year, and I plan on actually taking the class this next month. Some take the approach of "you must carry now, before it is too late". To each their own, but someone not ready (physically, emotionally and/or spiritually) or prepared can be a serious liability to his/her self or family in my opinion. Carrying a handgun is similar to having a fire extinguisher. You get it with the hopes that you'll never have to use it. |
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