.44 Mag and .44 Spl > Magnum Primers ?

renaissance7697 · February 18, 2006, 07:37 PM

I've decided to go with Clays Universal ( Universal Clays) Powder
( that IS the same as "Universal" in the load books - ISN' T IT ?? )
Building .44 S&W Special and .44 Magnum
For use in a Ruger Super REdhawk - 7 1/2 "

Question is..........

Large Pistol "Magnum" Primers.... or.... regular Large Pistol

WIL TERRY · February 18, 2006, 07:42 PM

Take it to the bank.

dogfood · February 18, 2006, 08:51 PM

And, yes, Universal Clays and Hodgdon Universal are the same powder.

dogfood

kingudaroad · February 19, 2006, 10:28 AM

Every book I have says to use large pistol primers unless you for fast burning powders such as Universal Clays.

Edward429451 · February 19, 2006, 12:22 PM

I've never used a magnum primer in any 44 except with H-110 which it speciffically called for. I wasn't fond of the load so never used em again.

1tomcat · February 19, 2006, 01:11 PM

Never was fond of magnum primers and never used a powder that required them, use N110 and 2400 and both ignite just fine with standard primers

tjhands · February 19, 2006, 07:57 PM

I kind of have the same question:

I found some .44mag cases that I, at some point in the past, got ready to load, but didn't get around to it. I loaded them and shot them today with a .44 Special load. I liked the performance, but can't remember if I had used Large Pistol primers or Magnum primers.

Would there be much of a performance difference if the only variable that was changed was the primer? If I loaded 50 rounds with Mag primers and 50 rounds with LP primers but left everything else the same, would I notice anything?

1tomcat · February 20, 2006, 09:23 AM

Yes, magnum primers will increase pressure to some extent

tjhands · February 20, 2006, 09:30 AM

Well, I guess I do just that.....load some with Mag primers and some with LP primers and then see which performs better.

Sorry for hijacking the thread.......

WESHOOT2 · February 20, 2006, 09:50 AM

Magnum primers most likely will increase pressure, but not always.

Magnum primers can enhance accuracy, but not always.

Magnum primers can enhance powder ignition, but not always.

I use Magnum primers for many specific applications, but not always.
I test.

When in doubt use Winchester Large Pistol primers.
Or test.

629 shooter · February 20, 2006, 10:31 AM

For 44 loads I now use the Winchester No. WLP LARGE PISTOL for STANDARD or MAGNUM pistol loads.

Regardless if I am using Unique , 2400 , H110 or 296 , this primer has given me the best results in regards to accuracy.

Robert M Boren Sr · February 20, 2006, 12:35 PM

In my magnums I always use Magnum primers. In my 44's I use cci 350 mag pistol primers and H110 and 2400 powder. Works great and all powder is burnt. And since I've discovered the LFCD, I now crimp everything. That helped my accuracy wonders. You just have to test things out to see what's best for your situation. Each gun is different.

shooter429 · February 23, 2006, 02:15 AM

on very heavy charges of a slow powder like 296. Since I usually load my magnums to medium velocity levels, using very light-for caliber bullets and faster powders, I use WLP or another LP and have never had a problem. I bought one case of the magnums years ago and still have a bunch sitting around collecting dust. I have never had ignition problems of lots of residue, with very few exceptions. In short, unless a load requires them, I would use the standard primers that most of us already have a ton of.

Shooter429

February 18, 2006, 07:37 PM	#1
renaissance7697 Senior Member Join Date: January 14, 2001 Location: Alexandria, VA Posts: 203	.44 Mag and .44 Spl > Magnum Primers ? I've decided to go with Clays Universal ( Universal Clays) Powder ( that IS the same as "Universal" in the load books - ISN' T IT ?? ) Building .44 S&W Special and .44 Magnum For use in a Ruger Super REdhawk - 7 1/2 " Question is.......... Large Pistol "Magnum" Primers.... or.... regular Large Pistol __________________ An Armed Society, Is a Polite Society.

February 18, 2006, 07:42 PM	#2
WIL TERRY Senior Member Join Date: July 6, 2000 Location: BLACK HILLS Posts: 1,322	The Regular Large Pistol Primers Will Work Just Fine. Take it to the bank.

February 19, 2006, 07:57 PM	#7
tjhands Senior Member Join Date: January 20, 2005 Posts: 1,718	I kind of have the same question: I found some .44mag cases that I, at some point in the past, got ready to load, but didn't get around to it. I loaded them and shot them today with a .44 Special load. I liked the performance, but can't remember if I had used Large Pistol primers or Magnum primers. Would there be much of a performance difference if the only variable that was changed was the primer? If I loaded 50 rounds with Mag primers and 50 rounds with LP primers but left everything else the same, would I notice anything? __________________ "If the sole purpose of handguns is to kill people, then mine are all defective." - Uncle Ted Nugent

February 20, 2006, 09:30 AM	#9
tjhands Senior Member Join Date: January 20, 2005 Posts: 1,718	Well, I guess I do just that.....load some with Mag primers and some with LP primers and then see which performs better. Sorry for hijacking the thread....... __________________ "If the sole purpose of handguns is to kill people, then mine are all defective." - Uncle Ted Nugent

February 20, 2006, 09:50 AM	#10
WESHOOT2 Senior Member Join Date: February 20, 1999 Location: home on the range; Vermont (Caspian country) Posts: 14,324	but Magnum primers most likely will increase pressure, but not always. Magnum primers can enhance accuracy, but not always. Magnum primers can enhance powder ignition, but not always. I use Magnum primers for many specific applications, but not always. I test. When in doubt use Winchester Large Pistol primers. Or test. __________________ . "all my ammo is mostly retired factory ammo"

February 18, 2006, 08:51 PM	#3
dogfood Senior Member Join Date: October 17, 2004 Location: Southwestern OH Posts: 239	And, yes, Universal Clays and Hodgdon Universal are the same powder. dogfood

February 19, 2006, 10:28 AM	#4
kingudaroad Senior Member Join Date: March 11, 2005 Location: austin Posts: 735	Every book I have says to use large pistol primers unless you for fast burning powders such as Universal Clays.

February 19, 2006, 12:22 PM	#5
Edward429451 Junior member Join Date: November 12, 2000 Location: Colorado Springs, Colorado Posts: 9,494	I've never used a magnum primer in any 44 except with H-110 which it speciffically called for. I wasn't fond of the load so never used em again.

February 19, 2006, 01:11 PM	#6
1tomcat Senior Member Join Date: June 27, 2005 Posts: 147	Never was fond of magnum primers and never used a powder that required them, use N110 and 2400 and both ignite just fine with standard primers

February 20, 2006, 09:23 AM	#8
1tomcat Senior Member Join Date: June 27, 2005 Posts: 147	Yes, magnum primers will increase pressure to some extent

February 20, 2006, 10:31 AM	#11
629 shooter Senior Member Join Date: February 9, 2002 Location: IN , USA Posts: 967	For 44 loads I now use the Winchester No. WLP LARGE PISTOL for STANDARD or MAGNUM pistol loads. Regardless if I am using Unique , 2400 , H110 or 296 , this primer has given me the best results in regards to accuracy. __________________ "One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors."

February 20, 2006, 12:35 PM	#12
Robert M Boren Sr Senior Member Join Date: December 29, 2004 Location: NW Montana Posts: 269	In my magnums I always use Magnum primers. In my 44's I use cci 350 mag pistol primers and H110 and 2400 powder. Works great and all powder is burnt. And since I've discovered the LFCD, I now crimp everything. That helped my accuracy wonders. You just have to test things out to see what's best for your situation. Each gun is different.

February 23, 2006, 02:15 AM	#13
shooter429 Junior member Join Date: July 21, 2005 Location: Washington Posts: 190	I only use magnum primers on very heavy charges of a slow powder like 296. Since I usually load my magnums to medium velocity levels, using very light-for caliber bullets and faster powders, I use WLP or another LP and have never had a problem. I bought one case of the magnums years ago and still have a bunch sitting around collecting dust. I have never had ignition problems of lots of residue, with very few exceptions. In short, unless a load requires them, I would use the standard primers that most of us already have a ton of. Shooter429