FN Scar 16s vs FS2000

[Gunnut17]

Which rifle would be more worth the large sum of money? The Scar can use a more AR accessories, such as magazines,(Some AR mags won't fit into the FS2000's mag well.) foregrips,(the FS2000 typically has a rail-free forend.) and, with modification, grips. The FS2000 is compact, is a little more ambidextrous, and should have better balance.

So what do think?

[SHNOMIDO]

Have you shot the FS2000? I've heard its a pain in the butt.

[Gunnut17]

Nah, I wish, it's a cool looking rifle.

[jason41987]

SCAR will be a much better rifle.. bullpups always have problems, theyre easy to learn, difficult to master... only bullpup i would spend money on would be the steyr AUG rifle

[oneshot onekill]

I actually didn't vote because I've owned both and was unimpressed. The "Tacticool" factor for both had outweighed my better judgement. Once the dust settled from my frenzied "gotta have one" craziness I realized I had spent a lot of money on something that only really does the same thing as an AR for twice the price. They're both cool... No doubt. But for me, that's not enough incentive to spend the extra coin... YMMV.

[Mrgunsngear]

Have you shot the FS2000?

This is the first thing I thought too... I have shot it---it has a horrid trigger. That said, I wouldn't get a SCAR 16 either but it does feel like a higher quality rifle when you fire it. Now a SCAR 17--yeah, I'd be all over that

[David the Gnome]

Mmmmm Scar 17... That's where it's at right there.

[RT]

Scar. No question

[jason41987]

i agree with oneshot onekill and plouffe daddy, though with the choices given, id go SCAR... if i had any choice id pass up on either one... SCAR doesnt offer anything you cant get in an AR15 with aftermarket modifications (you can get a short-stroke piston, reciprocating side charging handle, and quick change barrel in the AR15)... so if i had any choice it would be that, or a rifle ive been coming to really like, the sig 556

[Uncle Malice]

Scar for sure. My friend has an FS2000. Such a piece of junk. Jams frequently and nearly impossible to clear them with the tiny hole.

I like piston guns, but I'm not real big on piston AR's... I guess it's just something about preferring to use a gun under it's intended design parameters. With that said, the Scar would be an excellent piston gun. From everything I've seen, it seems to have a better track record for reliability too.

I'm happy with a good higher end AR... DD or BCM.

[FrosSsT]

I would go with the SCAR - but NOT the 16. For the price there are way to many options out there in 5.56. Grab yourself the 17 and call it a day. The recoil is almost that of the 5.56 (a little more but not at all bad for a 7.62/.308) I have never had any problems with it, and if you do some research and read you will learn it is quickly becoming dubbed as one of the best battle rifles out there today.

[Creeper]

I'll take poll option #3.

Cheers,
C

[cookie5]

I would just get a high quality AR15 and call it a day.

[Gunnut17]

Why are all my polls slaughters for one side?

[Blindmike]

When it come to the Scar or the FS2000 there is one thing for sure. You get what you pay for and more. The price on both of the weapons is high as a kite and this limits the number of people who can enjoy these fine weapons. I own a FS2000 and would not trade it for any other bullpup made. It is true the trigger is like squeezing a sponge that is something you can learn to live with and after a while you don't think anything of that point. The FS2000 is as well balanced as reported and can be held and shot with one hand and hit what you aim at also. The cases coming out the front is very handy if standing close to others will the gun is fired. And I can not say enough about how hand this rifle is when in a tight place and yet still have a 17" barrel that lets you reach out and touch the longer range targets. I could go on about this rifle but I think the fine points have been well covered.
The Scar is another fine weapon but for me it doesn't bring anything to the table that you can't have in an AR-15 platform of your choice. Please do not think I am knocking the Scar down it is a fine weapon but we are discussing price and really spending the money on one or the other. That being the case IMHO I will and did pick the FS2000. Not to say anything of you can by the FS2000 for so much less than the SCAR that you will be able to put some of the goodies you will want on the rifle and still not spend as much as would be spent on the SCAR.

[10mmAuto]

I'd get the Scar - in .308.

[HKFan9]

Not a fan of either but I would give the nod to the SCAR. However neither does anything your standard AR won't do for 1/3 the price... but I ordered an ACR from work (I get a discount) just to have something different for a rainy day, so I can't judge too much.

[Palmetto-Pride]

If I was going to drop that kind of coin I would get a H&K MR556A1, but thats just me. Sorry I cant help you on your poll, but I have held a SCAR 16 in my hand and was not impressed at all with it.

[dorc-1]

Just be patient and wait for the Beretta 160 arx.

[BoomieMCT]

Haven't shot a SCAR so I can't speak to that. However I do own a FS2000. I got it in a (very favorable) trade with the idea I could sell or trade up for more. After shooting it I don't think I will be getting rid of it.

I've put thousands of rounds though it with only 3 jams. They were all early on before I found what brand mags it did and did not like. Since I figured that out I've had zero issues. Yes, you cannot use Pmags.

I find the controls to be exactly where I want them. My only complaint is the lack of a last shot bolt hold open. Mag changes are slower than an AR (no drop free) but, with a bit of practice, comparable or faster than any other rifle (certainly faster, for me, than an AK or HK91 platform).

In stock form it does not have a ton of rails. I don't really care as I can fit a low power scope and a light on the rails it has. I have no need for other accessories. For those that do, there is a tri-rail foreend that is very easy to install. I personally find the factory stock to be very ergonomic and adding something like a VFG would be counter productive.

The trigger is okay, comparable to a stock military M16/M4. Other than the addition of a Neu-trigger ($25 mod which takes a lot of the "sponge" out) there isn't too much that can be done to clean it up. For a fast shooting working rifle I find it to be more than adequate and find off-hand shots to 150 yards (furthest my range goes) to not be an issue.

I think a lot of the hate for this rifle come from people who haven't put much time behind the trigger and who expect any black rifle to be just like an AR.

[HKFan9]

I don't hate it.... I just think its a fad that never caught on. Wasn't there a problem with the firing pins in them as well?

[kinoons]

I haven't handled a SCAR, but I had a FS2000 and traded I for a stag piston AR -- I just couldn't get used to the trigger on the FS2000, it just plain sucks. The trigger on my ps90 is okay, the fs2000 is impossible to feel -- you don't know when it's going to break. May as well just mash the trigger on the FS.

So I'll take damn near anything over a FS2000

[BoomieMCT]

@ HKfan9: The early ones had a firing pin issue, yes. It was a flaw in the conversion from full to semi auto.That has been long since solved. I hear FN will fix any that still have that issue gratis.

[Hutch11]

I have both rifles. I was going to sell the FS2000, but my wife, who is petite, loves to shoot it. As with other bullpup designs, the weight of the rifle is towards the rear and it is very easy to hold. Most shooters, especially on this forum, are familiar with AR-15/ AR-10 style rifles. I personally like the SCAR in 5.56 and 7.62. Unfortunately, FN charges quite a hefty premium for their rifles and the civilian models are made in Belgium, which limits what accessories can be legally added.

Again, although I like my Scar's, I can't say they are really better than a well made Ar-15 for the additional money. However, when I go hog hunting (Scar 17 is mush lighter than the AR-10's I have used), or to the range, I usually take a Scar along.

[Microgunner]

I own a FN FS2000 and find it easy to use.
The trigger isn't so good but goes bang every time.
It will accept all AR-15 mags if you remove the rubber mag well gasket which will also allow free fall of the mags.
The strangest thing about shooting it is the weird hollow sound you hear when your cheek is pressed to the butt stock.
I mean, really, the entire fire control mechanism slides out the rear in one piece, without tools.
How cool is that?
Bystanders like to watch it firing just to see the empties spitting out the front.
But for serious duty I'd take my M4 over my FS2000 every time.