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November 23, 2008, 10:57 AM | #1 |
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What is the determining criteria for a firearm to be a curio or a relic?
What determines a firearm to be either a curio and/or a relic? Age cerainly.What else? What is he BATF ruling on C & R ?
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November 23, 2008, 11:51 AM | #2 |
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There are a list of different ways, but basically the ATF has to decide it is unlikely it will be used in a crime or it has to be 50 years old.
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November 23, 2008, 01:10 PM | #3 |
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Yeah.
Basically 50 years old, or because ATF says so. Generally, the younger ones are because there is something "odd" about them that makes ATF view them as unlikely to be used in a crime. |
November 24, 2008, 11:50 AM | #4 | |
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Straight from the horse's mouth:
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FWIW the determining factor for C&R status, at least on paper, is not whether they're likely to be used in a crime or not. Plenty of C&R firearms have qualities that theoretically would make them attractive to criminals. The determining factor is the presence of qualities other than the gun's mere usability as a tool, for legal purposes or not.
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December 3, 2008, 02:49 AM | #5 |
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FR-8
I have a Spanish FR-8...a formally 8mm cut down to 7.62x51mm by the Spanish in 1952...so it says on the Mauser O-ring. It is a Mauser 98 re-rifled in 1952.
It is a short carbine length with bayonet lug and has capacity for firing a projectile...(wish I had some) grenade. It holds 5 rounds, in house, bolt action with great peep sights for out to 400 meters. The original rifle might be from the 20's or 30's...who knows...but now as a 308 caliber...its a great carbine that can keep up with the best...except, the design will not allow a scope. If the Fed's ever grab my guns...I would hope this one could be kept under the 'curio' label. (Actually I would do the PVC trick if I knew they were coming.) |
December 4, 2008, 12:56 AM | #6 |
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ok - so I read the statute and am still confused. I have a Cadet Martini - would it be included? How about a 44 1/2 Stevens? Both old and interesting. But do they pass the test? How would I know? I have a Carcano JFK Special - would it make the cut?
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December 4, 2008, 08:59 AM | #7 |
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If it's 50 years old or older - it's automatically a "relic".
To be a "curio" the BATFE has to have been petitioned and then approved a firearm as such. There is a list of "curios" at http://www.atf.gov/firearms/curios/index.htm. |
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