What does NIB mean to you? - Page 3

sgms · January 6, 2012, 09:01 PM

To me NIB means that, new complete all parts and paper work intact not handled a great deal and not sold previously past the gun shop. as new in box same as NIB but having been sold to an individual but not used box may be worn, like new/ preowned very lightly used (under 50 rounds) with box and any tools paper work may be missing. Also need to add the dealers sample. These are guns I can find at my local shop every once in a while that were used at shows, they have been handled a great deal but have not been fired or fired less than 50 rounds with box and all paper work. (I like finding these. New guns at 1/3 off new price.) It sound like you need to do a bad feed back on this individual after you get things settled.

9mm · January 6, 2012, 09:31 PM

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It only had one mag. Now, this gun shipped back in the late 1990's with 2 mags when it was new. I only received one.

People do that, they keep a mag back to make more $$$.

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showed several nicks

Sometimes factory marks/idiot marks from someone handling it and rings etc....

ClydeFrog · January 6, 2012, 10:08 PM

About 3 years ago, I read a gun press item about how strict some of the small arms contract inspections were with the 5.56x45mm M4 rifles.
In the Colt plant, a DoD inspector(not a Colt or contractor) would pull a M4 5.56mm out of a lot at random. If the "NIB" milspec M4 wasn't up to DoD/US military muster, the ENTIRE lot went back for service/repair.

That may sound harsh but I think our service members & US govt employees deserve the best weapons & equipment they can.

ClydeFrog

Justice06RR · January 8, 2012, 09:59 PM

NIB is exactly that, unused directly from the manufacturer.

If its an older firearm like a 90's or 2000, then it can only be LNIB.

BigG · February 20, 2015, 02:25 PM

NIB means never sold at retail before. Once it has an original owner, it cannot be NIB imho. Just like the 40 year old lady who has been out in the world for twenty years but still is a virgin according to her.

osbornk · February 20, 2015, 06:06 PM

New is new. Unshot but old is LNIB.

puppyface · February 20, 2015, 06:12 PM

NIB : not fired by owner, complete from factory.

WVsig · February 20, 2015, 06:54 PM

NIB boxs mean it has never been transferee to a private owner.

LNIB is Never shot but transferred to private owner or a gun which has seen almost no shooting. Limited rounds say under 100 and show no signs of firing.

IMHO LNIB has some leeway but NIB does not.

For a gun that old the designation does not mean anything. Inspection of the gun and valuation based on the inspection determines value not the verbiage of the ad.

stagpanther · February 20, 2015, 07:12 PM

My experience has been NIB means there's at least a 50/50 chance the firearm inside it resembles the one on the box label.

**Mal H** · February 20, 2015, 07:37 PM

Moderator's note - This thread was restarted after 3 years to post a complaint about a "NIB" purchase. That post did not belong in this thread and has been moved to a new thread here: http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=559250

skizzums · February 20, 2015, 07:38 PM

I always thought it meant "NickelBoron"

bamaranger · March 2, 2015, 02:24 AM

Not in Budget

rocket12 · March 2, 2015, 05:48 PM

if it has been fired other than at the factory, even 1 time it's USED

silverstang23 · March 2, 2015, 06:06 PM

New in the box. NIB means to me someone brought it home and decided they didn't want it. Never fired/used. Included everything it would if you bought it at the store

stagpanther · March 2, 2015, 06:19 PM

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if it has been fired other than at the factory, even 1 time it's USED

And in the words of Joe Isuzu "You have my word on it."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FE-XurEfQo

osbornk · March 2, 2015, 07:26 PM

I don't think it is NIB once it is sold to a retail customer. Once it leaves the store, it becomes unused or like new. A car is not new once it is sold to the retail customer and neither is a gun.

January 6, 2012, 10:08 PM	#53
ClydeFrog Junior member Join Date: May 1, 2010 Posts: 5,797	Colt; M4s, DoD plant QC inspections... About 3 years ago, I read a gun press item about how strict some of the small arms contract inspections were with the 5.56x45mm M4 rifles. In the Colt plant, a DoD inspector(not a Colt or contractor) would pull a M4 5.56mm out of a lot at random. If the "NIB" milspec M4 wasn't up to DoD/US military muster, the ENTIRE lot went back for service/repair. That may sound harsh but I think our service members & US govt employees deserve the best weapons & equipment they can. ClydeFrog

February 20, 2015, 02:25 PM	#55
BigG Senior Member Join Date: May 19, 1999 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 4,334	NIB means never sold at retail before. Once it has an original owner, it cannot be NIB imho. Just like the 40 year old lady who has been out in the world for twenty years but still is a virgin according to her. __________________ o "The Earth is degenerating today. Bribery and corruption abound. Children no longer obey their parents, every man wants to write a book, and it is evident that the end of the world is fast approaching." Assyrian tablet, c. 2800 BC o "In the beginning of a change, the patriot is a scarce man brave, hated, and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot." Mark Twain o "They have gun control in Cuba. They have universal health care in Cuba. So why do they want to come here?" Paul Harvey o TODAY WE CARVE OUT OUR OWN OMENS! Leonidas, Thermopylae, 480 BC

February 20, 2015, 06:54 PM	#58
WVsig Senior Member Join Date: June 30, 2010 Location: NC Posts: 5,309	NIB boxs mean it has never been transferee to a private owner. LNIB is Never shot but transferred to private owner or a gun which has seen almost no shooting. Limited rounds say under 100 and show no signs of firing. IMHO LNIB has some leeway but NIB does not. For a gun that old the designation does not mean anything. Inspection of the gun and valuation based on the inspection determines value not the verbiage of the ad. __________________ -The right to be left alone is the most comprehensive of rights, and the right most valued by free people.-Louis Brandeis -Its a tool box... I don't care you put the tools in for the job that's all... -Sam from Ronin -It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. -Aristotle

February 20, 2015, 07:12 PM	#59
stagpanther Senior Member Join Date: March 2, 2014 Posts: 11,789	My experience has been NIB means there's at least a 50/50 chance the firearm inside it resembles the one on the box label. Last edited by stagpanther; February 20, 2015 at 07:38 PM.

February 20, 2015, 07:38 PM	#61
skizzums Senior Member Join Date: July 1, 2013 Location: Douglasville, Ga Posts: 4,615	I always thought it meant "NickelBoron" __________________ My head is bloody, but unbowed

January 6, 2012, 09:01 PM	#51
sgms Senior Member Join Date: May 30, 2010 Location: Arizona or Ohio depending Posts: 1,021	To me NIB means that, new complete all parts and paper work intact not handled a great deal and not sold previously past the gun shop. as new in box same as NIB but having been sold to an individual but not used box may be worn, like new/ preowned very lightly used (under 50 rounds) with box and any tools paper work may be missing. Also need to add the dealers sample. These are guns I can find at my local shop every once in a while that were used at shows, they have been handled a great deal but have not been fired or fired less than 50 rounds with box and all paper work. (I like finding these. New guns at 1/3 off new price.) It sound like you need to do a bad feed back on this individual after you get things settled.

January 8, 2012, 09:59 PM	#54
Justice06RR Senior Member Join Date: December 21, 2010 Location: Central FL Posts: 1,360	NIB is exactly that, unused directly from the manufacturer. If its an older firearm like a 90's or 2000, then it can only be LNIB.

February 20, 2015, 06:06 PM	#56
osbornk Senior Member Join Date: August 11, 2012 Location: Mountains of Appalachia Posts: 1,598	New is new. Unshot but old is LNIB.

February 20, 2015, 06:12 PM	#57
puppyface Senior Member Join Date: October 29, 2013 Posts: 161	NIB : not fired by owner, complete from factory.

February 20, 2015, 07:37 PM	#60
Mal H Staff Join Date: March 20, 1999 Location: Somewhere in the woods of Northern Virginia Posts: 16,955	Moderator's note - This thread was restarted after 3 years to post a complaint about a "NIB" purchase. That post did not belong in this thread and has been moved to a new thread here: http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=559250

March 2, 2015, 02:24 AM	#62
bamaranger Senior Member Join Date: October 9, 2009 Location: North Alabama Posts: 8,312	NIB Not in Budget

March 2, 2015, 05:48 PM	#63
rocket12 Senior Member Join Date: November 20, 2005 Location: ohio Posts: 148	if it has been fired other than at the factory, even 1 time it's USED

March 2, 2015, 06:06 PM	#64
silverstang23 Senior Member Join Date: May 27, 2013 Posts: 180	New in the box. NIB means to me someone brought it home and decided they didn't want it. Never fired/used. Included everything it would if you bought it at the store

March 2, 2015, 07:26 PM	#66
osbornk Senior Member Join Date: August 11, 2012 Location: Mountains of Appalachia Posts: 1,598	I don't think it is NIB once it is sold to a retail customer. Once it leaves the store, it becomes unused or like new. A car is not new once it is sold to the retail customer and neither is a gun.