223 and hogs?

parkerd · June 20, 2012, 04:37 PM

Would a 55 grain soft point behind the ear kill a hog humanely?

thallub · June 20, 2012, 05:57 PM

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Would a 55 grain soft point behind the ear kill a hog humanely?

Yes. Put the bullet in the ear or behind the ear and the hog flops.

rickyrick · June 20, 2012, 06:50 PM

Yep this is one of my favorite debates.

But yes the 223 kills pigs quickly. I would back down from the ear a couple of inches about 45deg.

The hydrostatic shock of the high velocity round will lock the pig down. Of course, there's some range limitations.

parkerd · June 20, 2012, 07:53 PM

What would be my range limitations? 100 yards and under?

Art Eatman · June 20, 2012, 08:38 PM

Depends a lot on your skill at hitting inside a two-inch circle at whatever distance. And that's from some sort of field position; improvised rest, whatever...

AZwarts · June 21, 2012, 02:01 AM

people have killed hogs with pellet guns. It is all about shot placement. Dont under estimate the .223 my friend.

bamaranger · June 21, 2012, 02:57 AM

I knew two fellas who hog hunted for the Gov't in a National Park. The hogs were declared pests and destroying sensitive flora in same. These guys were both locals, and great shots and woodsmen. Their rifle of choice was the .22 Hornet and they shot hogs high in the neck/base of ear as has been described. INterestingly, they handloaded their Hornets with heavier than normal slugs, though I can't recall bullet weight I'm inclined to say 50-55 grains. These boys killed a slew of hogs.

Based on that, the .223 is more of the same thing and would do fine with same skill and ability.

The gov't eventually got involved and issued stainless 30-06's, which my pal immediately declared as to long and heavy, and the ammo too heavy as well.

BIG P · June 21, 2012, 03:50 AM

Another yep, Ear or neck The freezer is full of them.

rickyrick · June 21, 2012, 04:48 AM

I'd have to guess that you could go a little more than 100, but you would have to ask an expert lol. I've killed scores at less than 100 with no problems.

Resist the temptation for the head shot, even with a 30 cal or something. The brain is very small so, your head shot may end up being a face shot.

If they don't suspect any trouble or preoccupied with rooting, they present pretty easy shots. Once the running and mayhem begins, not so easy lol.

parkerd · June 21, 2012, 01:58 PM

Thanks everyone I want to do some hog hunting this summer and wanted a few pointers/tips. Do any of you use bait? It's about 50 acres 2 years ago my dad killed a 250lb sow we had to drag that stupid thing over 400 yards... And theres alot on the property. So what are some other good tips and such?

Thanks,Parker

rickyrick · June 21, 2012, 02:27 PM

You can bait them. But seems like they were gonna go to that place anyhow. I just use bait in a trap.

To gun hunt them, I usually just find out where they go to do their damage at night or morning and wait them out. They tend to follow a routine until disturbed.

Webleymkv · June 21, 2012, 02:36 PM

A .22 Short in just the right place would probably kill a hog cleanly, the question is how far away and how easily you can hit just the right place.

Doyle · June 21, 2012, 06:29 PM

The bait really isn't to get the hogs into the area. It is more to get them to be there when you are there. Hogs are mainly nocturnal - especially when it is hot (they can actually get sunburned). To get the hogs on the land when it is shooting light, a timed feeder really does help. Set it to go off right about 1st shooting light and within a few weeks they'll get used to comming to it. If they don't eat it, the squirrels, coons, and turkeys will have everything cleaned off before it gets dark so the hogs will soon learn to be the first to the feeder.

parkerd · June 21, 2012, 07:56 PM

Thanks Doyle, Fellow Floridian I have family in Sarasota!

bswiv · June 22, 2012, 12:13 PM

What Doyle said about night..........especially right now.

Louann and I have been in the woods a lot lately ( fixing roads, ditches & fire lines ) and are seeing deer every time, in the middle of the day.

Hogs.......only seeing tracks.

As for the .223......I'm not a good shot and therefore only take close shots and I like a little more bullet.....but I know of nore than one stand hunter who uses it without a problem.

Do keep in mind this time of year it's a good idea to have coolers and ice on hand. Don't want to let the best meat in our woods go bad after you go through all the sweat and bug bites to get it.

Edward429451 · June 23, 2012, 02:13 AM

Anyone who shoots hogs with a 223 has my respect.

If I ever hunt hogs I will have my 1895G.

rickyrick · June 23, 2012, 08:11 AM

What caliber does an f250 work out to?... Those kill them pretty quick also lol

Doyle · June 23, 2012, 08:42 AM

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What caliber does an f250 work out to?... Those kill them pretty quick also lol

True, but paying the insurance deductible is killer.

swopjan · June 25, 2012, 06:55 AM

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What caliber does an f250 work out to?... Those kill them pretty quick also lol

2011 Ford F150, regular 4x4, height 76, width 50, assuming hypotenuse is congruent with diameter if the truck was round...

93.413 caliber

hope it's registered!

edit: crap, you said F250. i'm not doing the math again, my phone doesn't have a square-root button. I just kept squaring things until it matched up.

Baylorattorney · June 25, 2012, 10:14 AM

ImageUploadedByTapatalk1340637246.569708.jpg at a whopping 236 yards 55 grain did this.

Scorch · June 25, 2012, 01:15 PM

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93.413 caliber

Obviously not familiar with caliber designations.
A "caliber" is an archaic unit of measure for designating the diameter of holes, where 1/100th of an inch is 1 "caliber".
.01" = 1 caliber
.224" = 22 caliber
.257" = 25 caliber
.308" = 30 caliber
.500" = 50 caliber
et cetera, ad infinitum.

So a truck 50" wide would be roughly 5000 caliber, if you chose to use the measurement of the cab width.

swopjan · June 25, 2012, 11:50 PM

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Obviously not familiar with caliber designations.
A "caliber" is an archaic unit of measure for designating the diameter of holes, where 1/100th of an inch is 1 "caliber".
.01" = 1 caliber
.224" = 22 caliber
.257" = 25 caliber
.308" = 30 caliber
.500" = 50 caliber
et cetera, ad infinitum.

So a truck 50" wide would be roughly 5000 caliber, if you chose to use the measurement of the cab width.
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I disagree, unless you refer to your weapons as "point" 50 caliber. http://www.thefreedictionary.com/caliber "The diameter of the bore of a firearm, usually shown in hundredths or thousandths of an inch and expressed in writing or print in terms of a decimal fraction: .45 caliber.
c. The diameter of a large projectile, such as an artillery shell, measured in millimeters or in inches."

also, a U.S. Army training manual from the Army Marksmanship Unit which refers to "caliber .22," "caliber .38," and "caliber .45" on page 11, and again on pages 12, 14, 27, 93, and 94. Pages 93 and 94 also refer to a no decimal "22 caliber long rifle" and a no decimal "22 short," respectively, so it appears they are interchangeable in writing. http://www.saveourguns.com/Ar_Marks_...rain_Guide.pdf

if the truck were 50" corner to diagonal corner, it would be 50.0 caliber, as opposed to .50 caliber. and, as it's 50" wide and 76" tall, the caliber will be different. if you made a circle touching two corners the circle's diameter would be 93 inches and some change, hence 93.413 caliber.

1tfl · June 26, 2012, 06:03 PM

parkerd,

Yes, a 223 in the right spot will put a large hog down quickly. How far will be determined by your marksmanship. The target (brain) will be like a small semi-flattened orange.

With all this rain in your area hogs will be on the move. They move mostly at night so night hunt will be most productive. In Florida you can hunt with rifle and light at night on provate property without any special permit requirements.

I suggest you find a spot with lots of hog tracks and then bait them with corn mash. Put some corn mash in a paint can with some holes on top and hang it up about 5 feet off the ground. You want to get the smell to travel out... sorta like chumming when out fishing.

Find a spot 25-50 yards away above the ground and wait. When you see/hear the hogs get ready to shoot and then light them up.

Youngshooter · July 12, 2012, 01:39 AM

I usually put some corn on the ground a few days before each day to get them attracted to the spot for a good result. I've heard(not yet tested) that the deer attractant "C'mere deer"(spelling?) works really well but I'm not sure. I'd say if you're skilled with the rifle and comfortable behind it you will have more trouble dragging it to your truck. Just imagine a big strip of bacon through the scope

Keg · July 12, 2012, 02:59 AM

The 223 will kill 'A HOG'....If a dozen show..good luck....I will be hunting in the morning with a 30-06..180 gr. bullets....In a semi auto with 6 quick firing rounds..it can do major damage....my 2 cents

June 20, 2012, 04:37 PM	#1
parkerd Member Join Date: January 19, 2012 Location: Gainesville FL Posts: 41	223 and hogs? Would a 55 grain soft point behind the ear kill a hog humanely?

June 20, 2012, 06:50 PM	#3
rickyrick Senior Member Join Date: March 15, 2010 Posts: 8,238	Yep this is one of my favorite debates. But yes the 223 kills pigs quickly. I would back down from the ear a couple of inches about 45deg. The hydrostatic shock of the high velocity round will lock the pig down. Of course, there's some range limitations. __________________ Woohoo, I’m back In Texas!!!

June 21, 2012, 02:57 AM	#7
bamaranger Senior Member Join Date: October 9, 2009 Location: North Alabama Posts: 8,312	.22 Hornet I knew two fellas who hog hunted for the Gov't in a National Park. The hogs were declared pests and destroying sensitive flora in same. These guys were both locals, and great shots and woodsmen. Their rifle of choice was the .22 Hornet and they shot hogs high in the neck/base of ear as has been described. INterestingly, they handloaded their Hornets with heavier than normal slugs, though I can't recall bullet weight I'm inclined to say 50-55 grains. These boys killed a slew of hogs. Based on that, the .223 is more of the same thing and would do fine with same skill and ability. The gov't eventually got involved and issued stainless 30-06's, which my pal immediately declared as to long and heavy, and the ammo too heavy as well.

June 21, 2012, 04:48 AM	#9
rickyrick Senior Member Join Date: March 15, 2010 Posts: 8,238	I'd have to guess that you could go a little more than 100, but you would have to ask an expert lol. I've killed scores at less than 100 with no problems. Resist the temptation for the head shot, even with a 30 cal or something. The brain is very small so, your head shot may end up being a face shot. If they don't suspect any trouble or preoccupied with rooting, they present pretty easy shots. Once the running and mayhem begins, not so easy lol. __________________ Woohoo, I’m back In Texas!!!

June 21, 2012, 02:27 PM	#11
rickyrick Senior Member Join Date: March 15, 2010 Posts: 8,238	You can bait them. But seems like they were gonna go to that place anyhow. I just use bait in a trap. To gun hunt them, I usually just find out where they go to do their damage at night or morning and wait them out. They tend to follow a routine until disturbed. __________________ Woohoo, I’m back In Texas!!!

June 20, 2012, 07:53 PM	#4
parkerd Member Join Date: January 19, 2012 Location: Gainesville FL Posts: 41	What would be my range limitations? 100 yards and under?

June 20, 2012, 08:38 PM	#5
Art Eatman Staff in Memoriam Join Date: November 13, 1998 Location: Terlingua, TX; Thomasville, GA Posts: 24,798	Depends a lot on your skill at hitting inside a two-inch circle at whatever distance. And that's from some sort of field position; improvised rest, whatever...

June 21, 2012, 02:01 AM	#6
AZwarts Senior Member Join Date: December 2, 2009 Posts: 112	people have killed hogs with pellet guns. It is all about shot placement. Dont under estimate the .223 my friend.

June 21, 2012, 03:50 AM	#8
BIG P Senior Member Join Date: July 8, 2010 Location: North Georgia Posts: 1,679	Another yep, Ear or neck The freezer is full of them.

June 21, 2012, 01:58 PM	#10
parkerd Member Join Date: January 19, 2012 Location: Gainesville FL Posts: 41	Thanks everyone I want to do some hog hunting this summer and wanted a few pointers/tips. Do any of you use bait? It's about 50 acres 2 years ago my dad killed a 250lb sow we had to drag that stupid thing over 400 yards... And theres alot on the property. So what are some other good tips and such? Thanks,Parker

June 21, 2012, 02:36 PM	#12
Webleymkv Senior Member Join Date: July 20, 2005 Location: Indiana Posts: 10,446	A .22 Short in just the right place would probably kill a hog cleanly, the question is how far away and how easily you can hit just the right place.

June 21, 2012, 06:29 PM	#13
Doyle Senior Member Join Date: June 20, 2007 Location: Rainbow City, Alabama Posts: 7,167	The bait really isn't to get the hogs into the area. It is more to get them to be there when you are there. Hogs are mainly nocturnal - especially when it is hot (they can actually get sunburned). To get the hogs on the land when it is shooting light, a timed feeder really does help. Set it to go off right about 1st shooting light and within a few weeks they'll get used to comming to it. If they don't eat it, the squirrels, coons, and turkeys will have everything cleaned off before it gets dark so the hogs will soon learn to be the first to the feeder.

June 21, 2012, 07:56 PM	#14
parkerd Member Join Date: January 19, 2012 Location: Gainesville FL Posts: 41	Thanks Doyle, Fellow Floridian I have family in Sarasota!

June 22, 2012, 12:13 PM	#15
bswiv Senior Member Join Date: June 4, 2006 Location: NE FL....... Posts: 1,081	What Doyle said about night..........especially right now. Louann and I have been in the woods a lot lately ( fixing roads, ditches & fire lines ) and are seeing deer every time, in the middle of the day. Hogs.......only seeing tracks. As for the .223......I'm not a good shot and therefore only take close shots and I like a little more bullet.....but I know of nore than one stand hunter who uses it without a problem. Do keep in mind this time of year it's a good idea to have coolers and ice on hand. Don't want to let the best meat in our woods go bad after you go through all the sweat and bug bites to get it.

June 23, 2012, 02:13 AM	#16
Edward429451 Junior member Join Date: November 12, 2000 Location: Colorado Springs, Colorado Posts: 9,494	Anyone who shoots hogs with a 223 has my respect. If I ever hunt hogs I will have my 1895G.

June 23, 2012, 08:11 AM	#17
rickyrick Senior Member Join Date: March 15, 2010 Posts: 8,238	What caliber does an f250 work out to?... Those kill them pretty quick also lol __________________ Woohoo, I’m back In Texas!!!

June 25, 2012, 10:14 AM	#20
Baylorattorney Senior Member Join Date: December 9, 2011 Posts: 177	ImageUploadedByTapatalk1340637246.569708.jpg at a whopping 236 yards 55 grain did this.

June 26, 2012, 06:03 PM	#23
1tfl Senior Member Join Date: September 12, 2007 Posts: 287	parkerd, Yes, a 223 in the right spot will put a large hog down quickly. How far will be determined by your marksmanship. The target (brain) will be like a small semi-flattened orange. With all this rain in your area hogs will be on the move. They move mostly at night so night hunt will be most productive. In Florida you can hunt with rifle and light at night on provate property without any special permit requirements. I suggest you find a spot with lots of hog tracks and then bait them with corn mash. Put some corn mash in a paint can with some holes on top and hang it up about 5 feet off the ground. You want to get the smell to travel out... sorta like chumming when out fishing. Find a spot 25-50 yards away above the ground and wait. When you see/hear the hogs get ready to shoot and then light them up.

July 12, 2012, 01:39 AM	#24
Youngshooter Member Join Date: July 10, 2012 Posts: 49	I usually put some corn on the ground a few days before each day to get them attracted to the spot for a good result. I've heard(not yet tested) that the deer attractant "C'mere deer"(spelling?) works really well but I'm not sure. I'd say if you're skilled with the rifle and comfortable behind it you will have more trouble dragging it to your truck. Just imagine a big strip of bacon through the scope

July 12, 2012, 02:59 AM	#25
Keg Senior Member Join Date: February 13, 2011 Location: Freestone County, Texas Posts: 1,133	The 223 will kill 'A HOG'....If a dozen show..good luck....I will be hunting in the morning with a 30-06..180 gr. bullets....In a semi auto with 6 quick firing rounds..it can do major damage....my 2 cents __________________ Hog Hunters never die........They just reload.........