The Firing Line Forums

Go Back   The Firing Line Forums > Hogan's Alley > Handguns: The Revolver Forum

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old October 28, 2010, 05:39 AM   #1
Carlo
Senior Member
 
Join Date: September 3, 2006
Location: Italy
Posts: 505
Is anyone using a 6" for home defence?

My defensive revover is a 4" 686, I bought it when I was 19 and, in my mind, it had to be of "service" type. With time and experience, I came to the conclusion that a 6" .38 or .357 would serve me just as well, if not better.
Now, we do have a silly rule: 6" revolvers are classed as "sport revolvers" and you're not supposed to use one to defend yourself, but this usually applies to carrying one, rather than using one in your own home. I shoot better with a 6" with less effort on sight alignment, I guess this is the real pro of for me, rather than greater muzzle velocity. I think a K-38 masterpiece with a narrow and smooth trigger for DA work would be a real honey.

Last edited by Carlo; October 28, 2010 at 05:55 AM.
Carlo is offline  
Old October 28, 2010, 05:57 AM   #2
spacecoast
Senior Member
 
Join Date: October 14, 2009
Location: Sunshine and Keystone States
Posts: 4,461
The 4" or shorter barrel is generally speaking lighter, easier to handle and more difficult to grab and wrest away from you, but the 6" will work just fine, keeping those factors in mind. At HD distances you won't be too worried about sight alignment, but use what you have confidence with and what works best for you. One of my HD guns is a 6" 686.
spacecoast is offline  
Old October 28, 2010, 06:09 AM   #3
Carlo
Senior Member
 
Join Date: September 3, 2006
Location: Italy
Posts: 505
I somehow suspect becoming slightly presbyopic has to do with this. I can shoot a 4", but with a 6" I manage head shots at 12 meters with no effort and this gives me a sense of security. Also, comparing my 4" 686 with a full lug 6" K 14, I don't find the former more controllable than the latter, with .38 special rounds. I think the slightly higher bore plan of the 686 and the shorter barrel eat up the advantage given by mass. I'm not sending the 686 to retirement yet, though.
Carlo is offline  
Old October 28, 2010, 06:12 AM   #4
spacecoast
Senior Member
 
Join Date: October 14, 2009
Location: Sunshine and Keystone States
Posts: 4,461
Recoil is minimized by the full lug 6" barrel, but in a HD situation you won't be noticing recoil, you will be more concerned about defending yourself. Sounds like you are well prepared either way.

Wish I had a full lug 6" Model 14 for target shooting, sounds like a nice revolver. Not very common and pricey.
spacecoast is offline  
Old October 28, 2010, 06:52 AM   #5
Kreyzhorse
Senior Member
 
Join Date: April 12, 2006
Location: NKY
Posts: 12,463
Quote:
Now, we do have a silly rule: 6" revolvers are classed as "sport revolvers" and you're not supposed to use one to defend yourself, but this usually applies to carrying one, rather than using one in your own home.
I've no objections to using a 6" .357 for HD and in fact use one myself. I really doubt that a 2" difference in barrel length will, one way or the way, cause you to live, or die, in a HD situation.

In my view, the best HD gun is one that you are comfortable and is reliable.
__________________
"He who laughs last, laughs dead." Homer Simpson
Kreyzhorse is offline  
Old October 28, 2010, 07:57 AM   #6
Standing Wolf
Member in memoriam
 
Join Date: April 26, 2002
Location: Colorado
Posts: 1,649
One of my home defense .44 magnums has a 6.5-inch barrel. A five-inch barrel would probably be handier, but those have been extinct for years.
__________________
No tyrant should ever be allowed to die of natural causes.
Standing Wolf is offline  
Old October 28, 2010, 10:40 AM   #7
jglsprings
Senior Member
 
Join Date: January 7, 2009
Posts: 1,827
I wasn't aware of any six inch rule on weapons. And I'm darn sure not one to follow "the rules" when it comes to a gunfight. I'll use what ever I shoot best or have on hand. If a six incher works for you - more power to you.

Don't let the internet, or "them", influence you too much.
__________________
Let's eat Grandma.
Let's eat, Grandma.

Commas save lives...
jglsprings is offline  
Old October 28, 2010, 11:05 AM   #8
mikejonestkd
Senior Member
 
Join Date: January 3, 2006
Location: Brockport, NY
Posts: 3,716
I have ready access to a smith 28 and a ruger gp 100 that have 6" tubes, and they would work just fine in a HD situation.
__________________
You are the bows from which your children as living arrows are sent forth.
mikejonestkd is offline  
Old October 28, 2010, 12:17 PM   #9
DMK
Senior Member
 
Join Date: November 18, 2001
Location: Over the hills and far, far away
Posts: 3,206
Does that 6" rule basically make it illegal to carry outside your home for self defense? You have to wonder where governments come up with the arbitrary regulations. They often have no connection with any reality outside the laws imposed on us.

Anyway, I have a 6" Model 28 that I love. The big N frame tames most SD 357 loads nicely. It's probably the centerfire handgun that I shoot the best. I keep it handy at home and have no qualms about its utility for defense. However, I find it awkward to carry in a hip holster. The long barrel hits the seat when sitting and sticks out under any jackets I wear when I attempt to carry concealed. I have another Model 28 that I probably will get shortened to a 3" or 4" due to these shortcomings of the longer barrel. In the mean time I carry my 2" barreled SP101 or S&W 642 when away from home.
__________________
- Homeland Security begins at home: Support your Second Amendment -
www.gunowners.org - www.saf.org - act.nraila.org - www.grnc.org
DMK is offline  
Old October 28, 2010, 12:28 PM   #10
aarondhgraham
Senior Member
 
Join Date: December 1, 2009
Location: Stillwater, OKlahoma
Posts: 8,638
Wouldn't be my first choice,,,

But there is nothing wrong with it either,,,
That "law" about 6" being for target or hunting is not immutable.

Use what you have and like.

One of my favorite six-shooters is my Colt Trooper Mk III with a 4" barrel,,,
It goes to the range with me but is also my bedside gun,,,
I would happily trade it for a 6" version.

I would like the increased target/hunting capability a 6" barrel would give me,,,
I do not believe the added barrel length would make it less effective for home defense.

.
__________________
Never ever give an enemy the advantage of a verbal threat.
Caje: The coward dies a thousand times, the brave only once.
Kirby: That's about all it takes, ain't it?
Aarond is good,,, Aarond is wise,,, Always trust Aarond! (most of the time)
aarondhgraham is offline  
Old October 28, 2010, 01:47 PM   #11
Carlo
Senior Member
 
Join Date: September 3, 2006
Location: Italy
Posts: 505
Sorry guys, I forgot to mention that 6" revolver = sport gun and you cannot carry it for self defence in Italy. I guess the rest of the world is far wiser than we are.
Carlo is offline  
Old October 28, 2010, 01:55 PM   #12
Big Bill
Senior Member
 
Join Date: December 29, 2008
Location: Idaho
Posts: 1,053
I use my 6" S&W 28-2 for home defense. It's the BOMB!

__________________
There is only one tactical principle which is not subject to change. It is to use the means at hand to inflict the maximum amount of wound, death, and destruction on the enemy in the minimum amount of time." - General George Patton Jr
Big Bill is offline  
Old October 28, 2010, 02:05 PM   #13
jglsprings
Senior Member
 
Join Date: January 7, 2009
Posts: 1,827
You mean, in Italy, you actually are ~NOT ALLOWED~ to carry a pistol with a 6" barrel concealed or otherwise? WOW! Learn something new everyday.

I used to have a shoulder holster to carry this Model 19 under a sports coat. It certainly wasn't ideal but it is doable.



It guarded the house for years and years before It could afford other options.
__________________
Let's eat Grandma.
Let's eat, Grandma.

Commas save lives...

Last edited by jglsprings; October 28, 2010 at 02:19 PM.
jglsprings is offline  
Old October 28, 2010, 02:05 PM   #14
dogngun
Senior Member
 
Join Date: November 18, 2002
Location: South east PA
Posts: 570
Not right now, but I have used several from time to time...

at least 2 Ruger Security Six .357's, several S&W's, mostly 2 or 3 Model 19's, one Model 10 and one Model 14.
Forgot - also had a 6" S&W Highway Patrolman for a while, too.

I did not consider it to be any sort of problem. I even carried most of them from time to time, but never in Italy.

mark
__________________
I am another gun-carrying liberal veteran.
dogngun is offline  
Old October 28, 2010, 02:10 PM   #15
FoxtrotRomeo
Senior Member
 
Join Date: June 14, 2010
Posts: 487
I use a 12 gauge for HD. That's my primary.

If I were to decide to use a wheelgun for HD. It would be this sweet baby. Yes it is mine. I'd use it with .45 Colt too. No reason to go deaf for certain.

http://s30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...urrent=1_1.jpg

So much for recoil.
__________________
"The mediocre mind is incapable of understanding the man who refuses to bow blindly to conventional prejudices and chooses instead to express his opinions courageously and honestly." - Albert Einstein]
FoxtrotRomeo is offline  
Old October 28, 2010, 03:34 PM   #16
DMK
Senior Member
 
Join Date: November 18, 2001
Location: Over the hills and far, far away
Posts: 3,206
DMK drools over the model 19 pic.

I always loved those guns.
__________________
- Homeland Security begins at home: Support your Second Amendment -
www.gunowners.org - www.saf.org - act.nraila.org - www.grnc.org
DMK is offline  
Old October 28, 2010, 03:44 PM   #17
Ideal Tool
Junior member
 
Join Date: October 6, 2010
Location: Michigan
Posts: 1,080
6" for home defense?

Colt 71/2" S.A.A. .45. Iffe'n twas good enuff fer Wyatt & Bat...Tis good enuf fer me!
Ideal Tool is offline  
Old October 28, 2010, 05:17 PM   #18
shafter
Senior Member
 
Join Date: December 23, 2009
Posts: 1,624
There's absolutely no reason why it wouldn't be a great choice. I don't believe all that crab about it being grabbed away from you. If he's that close just whack him over the head
shafter is offline  
Old October 28, 2010, 05:24 PM   #19
kingwc
Member
 
Join Date: January 24, 2010
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 39
I use the 6" 28-2 Highway Patrolman shown here or my 4" model 19-4. There is a certain intimidation factor when your holding a large frame 6" revolver
Attached Images
File Type: jpg PA198655.jpg (107.1 KB, 49 views)
kingwc is offline  
Old October 28, 2010, 06:10 PM   #20
Deegle
Senior Member
 
Join Date: January 19, 2008
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 251
My 6" 686 is my primary HD gun. I like a revolver for HD because I have kids rooms to worry about and I don't have to e concerned about it cycling frangible ammo reliably or not. The M&P40 and the Rem. 870 18" back up the 686. I shoot the 686 so well, it inspires confidence in relying on it as a primary HD gun, even with the extra length and weight.
__________________
"The very atmosphere of firearms everywhere restrains evil interference - they deserve a place of honor with all that's good." George Washington
Deegle is offline  
Old October 28, 2010, 06:16 PM   #21
TenRing
Senior Member
 
Join Date: December 1, 2009
Posts: 427
I see no problem with a 6" revolver for home defense although a shorter gun would be handier and easier to conceal. It will likely improve your accuracy if you need to make a tight shot. I have a 6" Taurus 66 that I bought 20-some years ago when I couldn't easily afford the Smith & Wesson. Many times I wished I had ponied up the additional $300 to buy the Smith but $300 seemed like a lot of money to me back then.

I have since afforded much more expensive guns but I can't find a good reason to get rid of the Taurus. I don't think I've ever shot a more accurate handgun and it comes in handy as part of my home defense system. It's also the gun that I stow away in the RV when camping or hunting.
TenRing is offline  
Old October 28, 2010, 09:06 PM   #22
FairWarning
Senior Member
 
Join Date: September 9, 2008
Location: GA
Posts: 1,149
My numero uno for home defense is my handy Mossberg 500 12 GA.

But my 686/6" is never far away either. In fact, it makes .38 Special +P and +P+ considerably stouter options without being in the "go straight to DEAF" category since during a break-in you wouldn't wear hearing protection!
__________________
Mauser Werke, Schmidt-Rubin, Colt, Walther, HK, Weatherby, Sig Sauer, Browning, Ruger, Beretta, etc, etc....a few friends of mine
FairWarning is offline  
Old October 28, 2010, 09:19 PM   #23
Rocked
Senior Member
 
Join Date: September 26, 2006
Location: North Florida
Posts: 152
If you really want to call it a backup, I have a 6" m29 ready to go, but my go to gun in the night would be 4" m66.
Rocked is offline  
Old October 29, 2010, 11:41 AM   #24
Carlo
Senior Member
 
Join Date: September 3, 2006
Location: Italy
Posts: 505
Wow Big Bill and Kingwc, yours are really nice sixguns!
Carlo is offline  
Old October 29, 2010, 01:04 PM   #25
Big Bill
Senior Member
 
Join Date: December 29, 2008
Location: Idaho
Posts: 1,053
I also have a Colt Trooper Mark III 6" that I trade off with my S&W.



__________________
There is only one tactical principle which is not subject to change. It is to use the means at hand to inflict the maximum amount of wound, death, and destruction on the enemy in the minimum amount of time." - General George Patton Jr
Big Bill is offline  
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:56 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
This site and contents, including all posts, Copyright © 1998-2021 S.W.A.T. Magazine
Copyright Complaints: Please direct DMCA Takedown Notices to the registered agent: thefiringline.com
Page generated in 0.07681 seconds with 11 queries