Break action auto loader

Dreaming100Straight · July 23, 2013, 07:47 PM

What is the make and model of the single barrel shotgun that holds a second shotshell on the right side of the action, which is automatically chambred when the first shot is taken?

BigD_in_FL · July 23, 2013, 07:48 PM

Beretta UGB 25 Excel, now available for half of original retail at about $2000

Got to shoot one when they first came out - VERY soft shooter, as a LH, nice not having empties flying across your face, heavy, but swung nicely; basically designed for the Euro market

Dreaming100Straight · July 23, 2013, 08:12 PM

Thought you would know. I shot one Saturday. One ouncers and it sported a Gracoil. Zero felt recoil. Owner said the problem with it is that some loads will not cycle it.

BigD_in_FL · July 23, 2013, 09:35 PM

It was designed as a bunker trap gun. In Europe, there is a concern about safety, so guns need to be easily visible - by making it a break action, Beretta addressed that issue. By making it a gas semi, they addressed the recoil issues of bunker loads, pigeon/helice loads and other that are running very fast. It never really caught on here in the US, but it is a VERY well made gun, decently balanced, good handling, and now running at $2K versus $4K. With Benellis running about $2500, and Beretta gas guns running close to $1800, this might not be that bad of a deal at $2K

As a reasonably heavy gun about 8.25#, and a gas action AND a Gracoil, I could see where some ultra-light loads might have an issue

BigJimP · July 24, 2013, 11:07 AM

The UGB has been dropped from the current Beretta catalog...( just checked it online again ) and its not there either...

There are only a couple of them in my area showing up on the sporting clays courses.../ and I've been able to put a few shells thru them as well, while I liked them, and they were unique -- I never did buy one..

I'm still very happy with my Benelli SuperSport models ( inertia guns / with synthetic stocks and comfort tech system in them )...in fact I was shooting the 12ga at Skeet yesterday because my rebuilt shoulder was hurting yesterday and I couldn't swing an 8.5 lb over under without a lot of pain.../ so I don't know if I'd take a risk on that UGB or not - even if it is down to around $2k these days.../ I think the Super Sport might be a smarter buy these days at around $ 1,800 ...or maybe one of the other Beretta gas guns.

g.willikers · July 26, 2013, 10:10 AM

Here's a description of this uniquely designed shotgun:
http://www.berettaweb.com/Beretta%20...ta_ugb25_1.htm

BigG · July 26, 2013, 05:16 PM

How is that different from the old Browning Double Automatic? I remember that was a two shot autoloader, also.

BigD_in_FL · July 26, 2013, 06:16 PM

The Beretta breaks open like an O/U

July 23, 2013, 07:47 PM	#1
Dreaming100Straight Senior Member Join Date: February 3, 2013 Posts: 1,235	Break action auto loader What is the make and model of the single barrel shotgun that holds a second shotshell on the right side of the action, which is automatically chambred when the first shot is taken?

July 23, 2013, 07:48 PM	#2
BigD_in_FL Junior member Join Date: December 20, 2012 Location: The "Gunshine State" Posts: 1,981	added Beretta UGB 25 Excel, now available for half of original retail at about $2000 Got to shoot one when they first came out - VERY soft shooter, as a LH, nice not having empties flying across your face, heavy, but swung nicely; basically designed for the Euro market

July 26, 2013, 10:10 AM	#6
g.willikers Senior Member Join Date: September 28, 2008 Posts: 10,442	Here's a description of this uniquely designed shotgun: http://www.berettaweb.com/Beretta%20...ta_ugb25_1.htm __________________ Walt Kelly, alias Pogo, sez: “Don't take life so serious, son, it ain't nohow permanent.”

July 26, 2013, 05:16 PM	#7
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July 23, 2013, 08:12 PM	#3
Dreaming100Straight Senior Member Join Date: February 3, 2013 Posts: 1,235	Thought you would know. I shot one Saturday. One ouncers and it sported a Gracoil. Zero felt recoil. Owner said the problem with it is that some loads will not cycle it.

July 23, 2013, 09:35 PM	#4
BigD_in_FL Junior member Join Date: December 20, 2012 Location: The "Gunshine State" Posts: 1,981	It was designed as a bunker trap gun. In Europe, there is a concern about safety, so guns need to be easily visible - by making it a break action, Beretta addressed that issue. By making it a gas semi, they addressed the recoil issues of bunker loads, pigeon/helice loads and other that are running very fast. It never really caught on here in the US, but it is a VERY well made gun, decently balanced, good handling, and now running at $2K versus $4K. With Benellis running about $2500, and Beretta gas guns running close to $1800, this might not be that bad of a deal at $2K As a reasonably heavy gun about 8.25#, and a gas action AND a Gracoil, I could see where some ultra-light loads might have an issue

July 24, 2013, 11:07 AM	#5
BigJimP Senior Member Join Date: February 23, 2005 Posts: 13,195	The UGB has been dropped from the current Beretta catalog...( just checked it online again ) and its not there either... There are only a couple of them in my area showing up on the sporting clays courses.../ and I've been able to put a few shells thru them as well, while I liked them, and they were unique -- I never did buy one.. I'm still very happy with my Benelli SuperSport models ( inertia guns / with synthetic stocks and comfort tech system in them )...in fact I was shooting the 12ga at Skeet yesterday because my rebuilt shoulder was hurting yesterday and I couldn't swing an 8.5 lb over under without a lot of pain.../ so I don't know if I'd take a risk on that UGB or not - even if it is down to around $2k these days.../ I think the Super Sport might be a smarter buy these days at around $ 1,800 ...or maybe one of the other Beretta gas guns.

July 26, 2013, 06:16 PM	#8
BigD_in_FL Junior member Join Date: December 20, 2012 Location: The "Gunshine State" Posts: 1,981	The Beretta breaks open like an O/U