Help With Some Old Guns, Please

Catch-22 · February 23, 2006, 09:18 PM

Good evening.

I am in possession of some old rifles that I'm trying to date and/or figure out what their value might be.

These were my Grandfather's guns, and they have not been fired since he passed away. He died in 1952, so you can imagine the type of condition these guns are in.

First, I have a Remington .257 Roberts, Model 722. Serial 258***, and I see a series of letters and numbers that include the following: YY X 44.

Second, I have a Winchester .22 pump, Model 62A. Serial 237***.

Next is a Remington .22. All I saw on it was The Sportsmaster, and Model 341.

Finally, I have a L.C. Smith Field Grade Double-Barrelled shotgun. It's a side-by-side, and the only other markings I found on it were "Hunter Arms Co. Inc. M.F.R.'s Fulton, NY."

Also have a Mauser hand gun. I saw, "Waffenfabrik Mauser, A.G. Oberndorf A.N.M", with the small numbers "945" on the underside.

There are many other guns that I have that were stored away for just as long, but I only wrote the info down for these few. Since some of these guns, not all, are going to an auction, I'd like to get an idea of what to expect to get for them. Thanks SO much for any help!

Catch-22

Dfariswheel · February 24, 2006, 01:18 AM

The Remington 722 was a short action bolt rifle. It was made in three grades, the 722(A) the 722ADL and the 722BDL.
It was made from 1948 to 1962.

Value depends on which grade. The 722(A) is the plainer version. The 722ADL has better wood and better checkering, the 722BDL has select wood.
The ADL and BDL markings are not stamped on the gun, the features indicate the grade.
Value for a plain version 722 in 95% condition is "about" $300, PLUS 20% extra for the .257 Roberts caliber.
A ADL in 95% is about $400, a BDL about $475.

The Winchester 62A pump was made from 1932 to 1958.
There were about 409,000 made.
It was a modernized version of the Winchester Model 1890 pump gun.
Value in 95% is about $500.

The Remington Sportsmaster Model 341 was made from 1936 to 1940 with 131,604 made.
There were three models, the 341A, 341P, and 341SB.
In 95% values run from about $150 to $235.

The Hunter Arms was made in Fulton New York from 1890 to 1945, by the Hunter Arms Company. In 1946 Marlin bought them out.
Hunter Arms were the lower priced models and are NOT L.C. Smith guns, although made by the same company.

A standard Field grade in 95% would run about $800.
You'd add 33% for auto ejectors, $200 for single triggers, 30% for 20 gauge, and 300% for a .410.

We need more info on the Mauser pistol. It could be a Mauser 1910/1914/1934, or it could be a Mauser HSc.
The 1910 series were single action autos, the HSc is a streamlined double action model with a safety on the slide.

Catch-22 · February 24, 2006, 07:17 PM

Dfariswheel,
Thanks so much for the information. I really appreciate it. Somewhat disappointed to hear about the L.C. Smith shotgun, but still a fine gun, none the less.

The mauser I'd have to check on. It's a small gun, with a magazine. I'd almost have to post a picture, because I'm not sure what else to look for on it.

Harley Nolden · February 25, 2006, 03:54 AM

Catch 22

Does the Mauser look like this one?

HJN

Catch-22 · February 25, 2006, 11:09 PM

Yes....pretty similar. Not exactly, though. Same basic design.

I'll try and post a picture tomorrow.

gunsdog25 · February 26, 2006, 01:48 PM

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http://www.gunsunder300.com

Catch-22 · March 6, 2006, 10:35 AM

Well, there's one more gun I need some help with....

It's an Ithaca 12 Ga shotgun, model 37. Again, I'm not sure of the exact age of the gun, but considering that it's been in storage since 1951, it's at least that old.

Thanks for any help.

February 23, 2006, 09:18 PM	#1
Catch-22 Junior Member Join Date: February 23, 2006 Posts: 4	Help With Some Old Guns, Please Good evening. I am in possession of some old rifles that I'm trying to date and/or figure out what their value might be. These were my Grandfather's guns, and they have not been fired since he passed away. He died in 1952, so you can imagine the type of condition these guns are in. First, I have a Remington .257 Roberts, Model 722. Serial 258*, and I see a series of letters and numbers that include the following: YY X 44. Second, I have a Winchester .22 pump, Model 62A. Serial 237. Next is a Remington .22. All I saw on it was The Sportsmaster, and Model 341. Finally, I have a L.C. Smith Field Grade Double-Barrelled shotgun. It's a side-by-side, and the only other markings I found on it were "Hunter Arms Co. Inc. M.F.R.'s Fulton, NY." Also have a Mauser hand gun. I saw, "Waffenfabrik Mauser, A.G. Oberndorf A.N.M", with the small numbers "945" on the underside. There are many other guns that I have that were stored away for just as long, but I only wrote the info down for these few. Since some of these guns, not all, are going to an auction, I'd like to get an idea of what to expect to get for them. Thanks SO much for any help! Catch-22 Last edited by Catch-22; February 23, 2006 at 10:03 PM.*

February 26, 2006, 01:48 PM	#6
gunsdog25 Member Join Date: June 28, 2005 Posts: 32	Old guns! you want a nice place to find old guns go to http://www.gunsunder300.com

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February 24, 2006, 01:18 AM	#2
Dfariswheel Senior Member Join Date: May 4, 2001 Posts: 7,478	The Remington 722 was a short action bolt rifle. It was made in three grades, the 722(A) the 722ADL and the 722BDL. It was made from 1948 to 1962. Value depends on which grade. The 722(A) is the plainer version. The 722ADL has better wood and better checkering, the 722BDL has select wood. The ADL and BDL markings are not stamped on the gun, the features indicate the grade. Value for a plain version 722 in 95% condition is "about" $300, PLUS 20% extra for the .257 Roberts caliber. A ADL in 95% is about $400, a BDL about $475. The Winchester 62A pump was made from 1932 to 1958. There were about 409,000 made. It was a modernized version of the Winchester Model 1890 pump gun. Value in 95% is about $500. The Remington Sportsmaster Model 341 was made from 1936 to 1940 with 131,604 made. There were three models, the 341A, 341P, and 341SB. In 95% values run from about $150 to $235. The Hunter Arms was made in Fulton New York from 1890 to 1945, by the Hunter Arms Company. In 1946 Marlin bought them out. Hunter Arms were the lower priced models and are NOT L.C. Smith guns, although made by the same company. A standard Field grade in 95% would run about $800. You'd add 33% for auto ejectors, $200 for single triggers, 30% for 20 gauge, and 300% for a .410. We need more info on the Mauser pistol. It could be a Mauser 1910/1914/1934, or it could be a Mauser HSc. The 1910 series were single action autos, the HSc is a streamlined double action model with a safety on the slide.

February 24, 2006, 07:17 PM	#3
Catch-22 Junior Member Join Date: February 23, 2006 Posts: 4	Dfariswheel, Thanks so much for the information. I really appreciate it. Somewhat disappointed to hear about the L.C. Smith shotgun, but still a fine gun, none the less. The mauser I'd have to check on. It's a small gun, with a magazine. I'd almost have to post a picture, because I'm not sure what else to look for on it.

February 25, 2006, 11:09 PM	#5
Catch-22 Junior Member Join Date: February 23, 2006 Posts: 4	Yes....pretty similar. Not exactly, though. Same basic design. I'll try and post a picture tomorrow.

March 6, 2006, 10:35 AM	#7
Catch-22 Junior Member Join Date: February 23, 2006 Posts: 4	Well, there's one more gun I need some help with.... It's an Ithaca 12 Ga shotgun, model 37. Again, I'm not sure of the exact age of the gun, but considering that it's been in storage since 1951, it's at least that old. Thanks for any help.