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Old April 10, 2002, 09:31 AM   #1
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Overkill?

I posted this in the wrong place. I reposted it here.

I know for HD I could use lifesavers and most likely kill the person.

However, it's kind of cool getting the most powerful shotshell I can. Now I have 3" 4 buck turkey load.

I know that I risk going through my neighbors wall.

What do you all think?

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Old April 10, 2002, 09:52 AM   #2
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What's a "4 buck turkey load?"

There's #4 shot & #4 buck - different animals. I've some 41-count #4 buck that's just too sweet for one HD load, but to tell ya the truth, the "standard" 27-count, 2-3/4"er'll probably do just as well.

If you're at all concerned about penetration through a wall & into the neighbors home, I'd may be (ahem) a bit more concerned, if ya know what I mean. Do take a good, hard look at what could happen. With a shotgun (even in home-sized areas) you'll like get some "over-spray" & if there's a chance that could harm an innocent ... well, you're the one who pulled the trigger, no?

Powerful doesn't necessarily equate to effective. You still have to be able to accurately employ that power - a miss with a 20mm is just as "effective" as a miss with a .22LR

Probaly a good idea to take some of those "turkey loads" to the range & at a realistic distance, put a few through as fast as you'd think you'd need to do a couple double/triple-taps. I bethcha you find that some lighter loads will be "better."
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Old April 10, 2002, 10:16 AM   #3
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What's a "4 buck turkey load?" <<

You missed the 3" part.

I appreciate the tips lab. I will certainly think about it.

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Old April 10, 2002, 10:25 AM   #4
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Didn't miss the 3" part at all. I've some 3" #4 BUCK (41 pellet count) & some #4 SHOT (~ 272 pellet count).

#4 BUCK's diameter of each lead ball is ~.22-23" in diameter. #4 SHOT is about (mumble & no reference mat'l on hand) .080" (?) - big different between the pellet size.

The 3" only means that more of whatever can be put in the extra 1/4" of the shell (over a 2-3/4").

I was curious as to #4 Buck being used for turkeys - thass all.

Colorado's got a shot size limit of #2 (lead) SHOT/T steel as largest pellet size allowable for turkeys. #4 BUCK is way oversize .... (but, no doubt pretty effective )
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Old April 10, 2002, 11:56 AM   #5
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Definatley overkill if ya ask me.
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Old April 10, 2002, 04:11 PM   #6
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The Fed database I can't access had no distinction between any load, gauge or choke. 99% effectiveness for one shot stops.

#4 shot turkey loads overkill? If so, so's 3/4 oz of 9s.
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Old April 10, 2002, 04:52 PM   #7
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I have 5 Remington 2 3/4" No. 4 buckshot shells in my Smith & Wesson Model 3000.

Not overkill at all.
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Old April 10, 2002, 05:44 PM   #8
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Obviously, I was misunderstood.

My point was merely regards that a 3" shell could be "overkill" on the shooter, not the "shootee" - especially if not all that familiar with the recoil of the "magnun" shell versus the standard 2-3/4"
- that & the "#4 buck turkey load."

I use #4 shot myself - 2-3/4"
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Old April 10, 2002, 05:59 PM   #9
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CMichael, only way to find out. You'll need a measuring tape, a shotgun, your load, and a cooperative contractor to ensure you are shooting the right stuff. (No, do not shoot in your housing addition--take it to the range).
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Old April 10, 2002, 06:40 PM   #10
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4 shot or 4 buck, a 3" magnum turkey load is going to hurt your shoulder either way.
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Old April 11, 2002, 06:31 AM   #11
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In an apartment complex, I'd stick to birdshot. Yes, it may still go through sheet rock, but it's more likely to be deflected than heavier buck or slugs.

Hey, you could always get some of those Dragonsbreath rounds! It won't go through the wall. You'll probably make the news, but you won't need to worry about anyone trying to take your stuff again!
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