Colt 1851 Made by ASM

Tanker6 · March 24, 2011, 12:03 PM

I've been eyeballin' a pair of 1851 Navies (in .44 cal) listed on GB that include the Colt address (like a "real" Colt) on the barrel. Somewhere (I can't remember where -- it might have even been here) I've read that Colt sold these but they were made by ASM.

My question is this: Are these "more valuable" since they are marketed by Colt or just like buyin' another ASM reproduction?

The listing is here: http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=221169530

Thanks in advance for your thoughtfull replies.

Hawg · March 24, 2011, 12:29 PM

I'm thinking ASM bought the surplus third gen parts from Colt Black Powder Arms Co. They were not made nor sanctioned by Colt. ASM's don't have a good reputation but some swear by them. Others swear at them.

No way IMHO are they worth anywhere near the auction price. bp revolver has the scoop on these maybe he'll pop in.

mykeal · March 24, 2011, 12:33 PM

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Are these "more valuable" since they are marketed by Colt

No.

They were not 'marketed by Colt'. Colt had nothing to do with them, in fact, they sued ASM to stop production.

ASM produced several such guns while attempting to negotiate a license agreement with Colt's Manufacturing Co., essentially trying to get in on the 2nd and 3rd Generation Colt business. Colt turned them down, but ASM had already built and shipped several guns to retailers.

They're ASM, pure and simple. And way overpriced at that.

Tanker6 · March 24, 2011, 03:08 PM

I thought so......

I appreciate the information. They're over my "price range" anyhow. I missed out on a pair of Pietta 1851's a few weeks ago b/c I didn't have the cash at that time. The pair sold for $233

I'll bide my time. There'll be another pair show up eventually.

March 24, 2011, 12:03 PM	#1
Tanker6 Senior Member Join Date: October 21, 2010 Location: Texas Posts: 193	Colt 1851 Made by ASM I've been eyeballin' a pair of 1851 Navies (in .44 cal) listed on GB that include the Colt address (like a "real" Colt) on the barrel. Somewhere (I can't remember where -- it might have even been here) I've read that Colt sold these but they were made by ASM. My question is this: Are these "more valuable" since they are marketed by Colt or just like buyin' another ASM reproduction? The listing is here: http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=221169530 Thanks in advance for your thoughtfull replies.

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March 24, 2011, 12:29 PM	#2
Hawg Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 16,188	I'm thinking ASM bought the surplus third gen parts from Colt Black Powder Arms Co. They were not made nor sanctioned by Colt. ASM's don't have a good reputation but some swear by them. Others swear at them. No way IMHO are they worth anywhere near the auction price. bp revolver has the scoop on these maybe he'll pop in.

March 24, 2011, 03:08 PM	#4
Tanker6 Senior Member Join Date: October 21, 2010 Location: Texas Posts: 193	I thought so...... I appreciate the information. They're over my "price range" anyhow. I missed out on a pair of Pietta 1851's a few weeks ago b/c I didn't have the cash at that time. The pair sold for $233 I'll bide my time. There'll be another pair show up eventually.