Florida CCW holders - READ THIS!

Chris73 · February 25, 2005, 11:30 AM

From Packing.org:

(Feb 23, 2005) Florida Senate Bill 436 and it matching counterpart House bill 249 each advanced through one more hurdle clearing the Senate Judiciary Committee 7/0 and the House Judiciary Committee 13/0. These are optimistic advances. These bills if passed to law will place the assumption of intent to to do great harm on anyone unlawfully entering any residence and extends the "Castle Doctrine" to include cars in Florida. Another major portion of these bills is their elimination of the duty to retreat replacing it with more defense freindly language ... "A person who is attacked in any other place where he or she has a right to be has no duty to retreat and has the right to stand his or her ground and meet force with force, including deadly force, if it is reasonably necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the commission of a forcible felony." It also requires LEO and procecutors to have probable cause to effect arrest in these cases and provides penalties for unjust prosecution. The passage of these bills would be a great step forward for the rights of law abiding citizens engaging in their own defense. Kudos to the Florida Legislature, keep things moving ahead.

This is a fantastic next step for this legislation. Refer to HB 249 sponsored by Rep. Dennis Baxley (R-Ocala) and its companion bill, SB 436 carried on the Senate side by Sen. Durell Peaden (R-Crestview). Here's a summary from the legislature on what the bills do: Use of Force; authorizes person to use force, including deadly force, against intruder or attacker in dwelling, residence, or vehicle under specified circumstances; provides that person is justified in using deadly force under certain circumstances; provides immunity from criminal prosecution or civil action for using deadly force; defines term "criminal prosecution", etc. Creates 776.013,.032; amends 776.012,.031. EFFECTIVE DATE: 10/01/2005. Write your representative and senator to push for these bills. There will be an attempt by the Democrats to amend them and take out the strong protections for homeowners, so be sure to stay active on this effort!

**Rich Lucibella** · February 25, 2005, 12:42 PM

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A person who is attacked in any other place where he or she has a right to be has no duty to retreat and has the right to stand his or her ground and meet force with force, including deadly force

Revolutionary language for politicians...seriously. One might expect it to be a common understanding from the Bill of Rights, but so few people (and pols) actually READ anymore.

Makes me proud to be a Floridian!
Rich

k_dawg · February 25, 2005, 01:20 PM

My local "representative" is against it, "For the children.."

Gawd.. one would think that being "for the children" would be to make it legal for a parent to defend his family from a child kidnaper/rapist.. :barf:

Any .45 · February 25, 2005, 02:06 PM

It's because we vote republican, MY BUSH CHENEY STICKER STAYS ON MY WINDOW, We thank these: [ Jeb Bush (R)* - Not Eligible to Seek Re-Election in 2006.
Mel Martinez (R)* - (Campaign Site) - Next Election in 2010.
Charlie Crist (R) - Attorney General, Ex-Education Commissioner, Ex-State Sen. & '98 US Senate Nominee
Tom Gallagher (R) - State CFO, Ex-State Treasurer, Ex-Education Commissioner & '86/'94 Candidate
Toni Jennings (R) (maybe not her)- Lt. Governor, Ex-State Senate President, Ex-State Rep. & Businesswoman

And F these:
( Espesially her) (Witch) Betty Castor (D) - Ex-University President, Ex-State Education Commissioner & '04 US Senate Nominee
Lawton "Bud" Chiles III (D) - Real Estate Developer & Son of Ex-Gov. Lawton Chiles
Jim Davis (D) - Congressman, Ex-State House Majority Leader & Attorney
Daryl Jones (D) - Ex-State Sen., Attorney, USAF Veteran & '02 Candidate
Scott Maddox (D) - State Democratic Chair, Ex-Tallahassee Mayor & '02 Attorney General Candidate
Anthony Kennedy Shriver (D) - Non-Profit Group Founder/President
Rod Smith (D) - State Sen. & Ex-State Attorney

To bad brother Bush has been here so long and he can't run for re-election
maybe he'll run for Prez.

Chris73 · February 25, 2005, 02:36 PM

Florida has the potential to turn ugly in the next Gov. election. I understand that both Betty "Cryptkeeper" Castor and Lawton "Walkin'" Chiles (oh God, not another one!) are running for Gov.

God Help Us All.

fishkiller · April 21, 2005, 10:09 AM

heres the bill.
http://flsenate.gov/cgi-bin/view_pag...sion&Submenu=1

February 25, 2005, 11:30 AM	#1
Chris73 Member Join Date: June 18, 2004 Location: Sunny Florida Posts: 23	Florida CCW holders - READ THIS! From Packing.org: (Feb 23, 2005) Florida Senate Bill 436 and it matching counterpart House bill 249 each advanced through one more hurdle clearing the Senate Judiciary Committee 7/0 and the House Judiciary Committee 13/0. These are optimistic advances. These bills if passed to law will place the assumption of intent to to do great harm on anyone unlawfully entering any residence and extends the "Castle Doctrine" to include cars in Florida. Another major portion of these bills is their elimination of the duty to retreat replacing it with more defense freindly language ... "A person who is attacked in any other place where he or she has a right to be has no duty to retreat and has the right to stand his or her ground and meet force with force, including deadly force, if it is reasonably necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the commission of a forcible felony." It also requires LEO and procecutors to have probable cause to effect arrest in these cases and provides penalties for unjust prosecution. The passage of these bills would be a great step forward for the rights of law abiding citizens engaging in their own defense. Kudos to the Florida Legislature, keep things moving ahead. This is a fantastic next step for this legislation. Refer to HB 249 sponsored by Rep. Dennis Baxley (R-Ocala) and its companion bill, SB 436 carried on the Senate side by Sen. Durell Peaden (R-Crestview). Here's a summary from the legislature on what the bills do: Use of Force; authorizes person to use force, including deadly force, against intruder or attacker in dwelling, residence, or vehicle under specified circumstances; provides that person is justified in using deadly force under certain circumstances; provides immunity from criminal prosecution or civil action for using deadly force; defines term "criminal prosecution", etc. Creates 776.013,.032; amends 776.012,.031. EFFECTIVE DATE: 10/01/2005. Write your representative and senator to push for these bills. There will be an attempt by the Democrats to amend them and take out the strong protections for homeowners, so be sure to stay active on this effort!

February 25, 2005, 02:06 PM	#4
Any .45 Senior Member Join Date: June 21, 2004 Location: SW FLORIDA, USA Posts: 604	It's because we vote republican, MY BUSH CHENEY STICKER STAYS ON MY WINDOW, We thank these: [ Jeb Bush (R)* - Not Eligible to Seek Re-Election in 2006. Mel Martinez (R)* - (Campaign Site) - Next Election in 2010. Charlie Crist (R) - Attorney General, Ex-Education Commissioner, Ex-State Sen. & '98 US Senate Nominee Tom Gallagher (R) - State CFO, Ex-State Treasurer, Ex-Education Commissioner & '86/'94 Candidate Toni Jennings (R) (maybe not her)- Lt. Governor, Ex-State Senate President, Ex-State Rep. & Businesswoman And F these: ( Espesially her) (Witch) Betty Castor (D) - Ex-University President, Ex-State Education Commissioner & '04 US Senate Nominee Lawton "Bud" Chiles III (D) - Real Estate Developer & Son of Ex-Gov. Lawton Chiles Jim Davis (D) - Congressman, Ex-State House Majority Leader & Attorney Daryl Jones (D) - Ex-State Sen., Attorney, USAF Veteran & '02 Candidate Scott Maddox (D) - State Democratic Chair, Ex-Tallahassee Mayor & '02 Attorney General Candidate Anthony Kennedy Shriver (D) - Non-Profit Group Founder/President Rod Smith (D) - State Sen. & Ex-State Attorney To bad brother Bush has been here so long and he can't run for re-election maybe he'll run for Prez. __________________ Foster and polish The warior spirit While serving in the world; Illuminate the path According to your inner light" "Spring forth from the Great Earth; Billow like Great Waves; Stand like a tree, sit like a rock; Use One to strike All. Learn and forget! " "At the instant A warrior Confronts a foe, All things Come into focus" Morihei Ueshiba (1883-1969) Founder of Aikido

February 25, 2005, 01:20 PM	#3
k_dawg Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2004 Posts: 563	My local "representative" is against it, "For the children.." Gawd.. one would think that being "for the children" would be to make it legal for a parent to defend his family from a child kidnaper/rapist.. :barf:

February 25, 2005, 02:36 PM	#5
Chris73 Member Join Date: June 18, 2004 Location: Sunny Florida Posts: 23	Florida has the potential to turn ugly in the next Gov. election. I understand that both Betty "Cryptkeeper" Castor and Lawton "Walkin'" Chiles (oh God, not another one!) are running for Gov. God Help Us All.

April 21, 2005, 10:09 AM	#6
fishkiller Junior Member Join Date: April 8, 2005 Posts: 8	heres the bill. http://flsenate.gov/cgi-bin/view_pag...sion&Submenu=1