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Old July 21, 2016, 07:57 AM   #1
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Best Platform for 40sw to 357sig Conversion

Good morning. I'm new to TFL, this is my first post. After stalking the forums for years, I'm in. Thanks to all you guys and gals for the heaps of knowledge I've gleaned thus far.

My question is this. I'm looking for a handgun that I can shoot in 40sw and 357sig. I'm a fairly experienced shooter, but mostly stick to 9mm and 45ACP. I'm intrigued by the 357Sig however, and want to try it out and figured I might as well be able to shoot 40 as well, while I'm at it. This gun would be carried occasionally while hiking and working in my woods, but is mostly just a curiosity piece.

My preferences:
- I'm not a huge Glock fan. I respect them, but don't really like to shoot them. I used to have some Glocks in 40 but sold them all.
- Sigs are hit or miss. Love my 220, but couldn't hit the broad side a barn with my friends 229 in 40. Maybe it was just that gun? I'm willing to reconsider.
- I have some M&Ps, but want to try something different.
- I love my CZs... a lot.

Here are some of the things I'm considering:
- Don't have any H&Ks right now, but I think they look great. I read a lot of mixed reviews about the triggers, but I'm not really a trigger snob so maybe I won't care. Specifically interested in the USP, P2000, or VP series.
- I'm willing to give the Sig 229 another shot.
- I've also wanted to try the Jericho 941 (CZ clone) but conversion barrels seem hard to find.
- Is there something else out there that you guys would recommend.

Thanks everyone!
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Old July 21, 2016, 08:27 AM   #2
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I'm a huge Glock and 1911 fan, but my SIG P229 Enhanced Elite is my EDC now. I'd get a Legion if I could sneak it past the wife.
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Old July 21, 2016, 08:31 AM   #3
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I feel the same way about Glocks as you do.

I would certainly give the SIG P229 another try. Mine seems to shoot .40 caliber quite accurately within my ability, and most people who have .40 S&W or 357 SIG 229s seem quite pleased with them.

There have recently been a large number of SIG P229 .40 caliber police trade-ins available.

You could also consider a SIG P320. I have a full-size P320 in .45 ACP but I did shoot a full-size P320 in .40 S&W and was very impressed with its accuracy.

For what it is worth, I had shot quite a bit of 9mm Luger and .45 ACP when I bought my first .40 S&W pistol years ago. When I first got it, I was pretty inaccurate with it. Now I shoot the same pistol with quite decent accuracy. I think for me it was just a matter of getting used to the recoil characteristics of the .40 S&W round.
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Old July 21, 2016, 08:58 AM   #4
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I've owned a few 40s and one 357 SIG that was in fact a SIG. Honestly for that caliber SIGs are to me one of the most enjoyable to shoot. I did have an HK P2000 in 40SW that I also enjoyed, but HK has pretty much stopped support for 357 SIG. You can still find conversion barrels for the 40SW variants, but you may have to look around a bit.

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Old July 21, 2016, 06:46 PM   #5
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You can get a BHP in both .40cal and .357SIG. The BHP is the classic cadillac of handguns.
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Old July 21, 2016, 07:05 PM   #6
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Springfield Armory XD40 could be fitted with a .357 Sig barrel. Easy to swap between the two chamberings
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Old July 22, 2016, 01:12 PM   #7
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I went the other way - I bought a Sig P229 in .357Sig and bought an aftermarket (EFK Firedragon) .40 barrel, ported. (I also bought a 9mm barrel for it.) I really like it. If it had adjustable sights it would be my clear favorite among my semi-autos. As it is, it is very enjoyable to shoot. I can see how someone with small hands may not like it as well, since the grip is pretty meaty.
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Old July 22, 2016, 01:43 PM   #8
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Sig P229 / P226 and Glock 22, 23, 27 and 35 all can be converted easily by a barrel swap. The Glocks have more options available.
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Old July 22, 2016, 06:15 PM   #9
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S&W 3rd Gen had a nice bunch of .40's...
only one in .357SIG, and few aftermarket barrels to speak of...
but they are out there...
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Old July 23, 2016, 01:41 PM   #10
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Sigs are hit or miss. Love my 220, but couldn't hit the broad side a barn with my friends 229 in 40. Maybe it was just that gun? I'm willing to reconsider.



I don't miss very often with my Sigs.
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Old July 23, 2016, 02:48 PM   #11
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+1 for the SIG P229. I have one in 40sw, and it is a GREAT handgun. I have not shot it with the 357sig conversion so I can't speak to that. I may give the conversion kit some thought in the future as it is intriguing.
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Old July 24, 2016, 01:23 AM   #12
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H&K VP40. Buy a 357 Sig conversion barrel and you are ready to go.


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Old July 24, 2016, 07:27 AM   #13
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Sigs are "hit or miss", maybe you were feeding it something it didn't like?
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Old July 25, 2016, 12:58 PM   #14
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Thanks for the feedback. Can anyone speak to the HK VP40 vs USP/P2000?
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Old July 25, 2016, 01:37 PM   #15
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Old July 26, 2016, 07:56 AM   #16
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You can get a BHP in both .40cal and .357SIG. The BHP is the classic cadillac of handguns.
I'd agree that the 9mm BHP is a true "classic" handgun, but whether that design (when upgraded to handle .40S&W round) is the best base for .357 SIG is a question not easily answered.

The .40 S&W version of the BHP was never all that popular, and FNH stopped .40 S&W production some time ago -- apparently due to lack of demand. I don't think that FNH ever offered the gun in .357 SIG. A few after-market conversion barrels are available, but Bar-Sto no longer offers them (perhaps due to lack of demand.)

Folks who have and shoot .357 SIG versions of the BHP seem happy with their weapons, but they are members of a relatively small group.

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Old July 26, 2016, 01:46 PM   #17
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I have had the same thought and was thinking Glocky as there seems to be a lot of aftermarket barrels out there for them.
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Old July 26, 2016, 01:59 PM   #18
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Glock 22 or 23. Both in 40 S&W. Can be converted to 357sig just by changing the barrels. Storm Lake and Lone Wolf both make great fairly cheap barrels. They use the same magazines so that's not an issue. You won't have to buy 357sig magazines unless you want your magazines to say 357 on the back above the round count. I had a Glock 32 and love the 357sig. Want another 357sig someday but for now my EDC is a 1911 commander.
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Old July 28, 2016, 10:24 PM   #19
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Sig P226 SS.
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Old July 28, 2016, 11:37 PM   #20
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Lots of .40 loads are dead ringers for .357 sig. No switching nor barrell swaps necessary
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Old July 29, 2016, 08:18 PM   #21
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Lots of .40 loads are dead ringers for .357 sig. No switching nor barrell swaps necessary





You're going to have to clarify that statement some my friend because I'm very confused by it.
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Old July 30, 2016, 06:57 PM   #22
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Not sure about best but my Sig 2022 handled the 40cal/357Sig conversation just fine. Just a barrel swap.
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Old July 30, 2016, 09:30 PM   #23
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I go the Glock 31 .357 Sig to .40 S&W route.

Why? Cause the .40, having a bit of unsupported barrel, is a great candidate for a Storm Lake .40 Supported barrel. The Sig does not need it so I use stock Sig barrel for it.

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Old July 31, 2016, 11:34 AM   #24
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I will second or third the vote (what ever the count is now) on the Sig P229. Not to say it is the best. It could be the best overall bang for the bucks. Police trade-ins can easily be had for around or well under $400.00. This is probably also true with Glock and S&W's in .40 pistols.

I acquired a P229 in over 90% condition with two magazines for $415.00 and may of over-paid. I then added a new Sig Sauer 357 Sig barrel for $170.00.

These trade-ins remind me of the days when you could get a S&W Model 10 revolver for little money. Now, the Model 10's are get a tad pricier.
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Old January 15, 2017, 06:18 PM   #25
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Did you ever get a 40/357 pistol? I know it's been a few months but check out the FNS40. EFKdragon sells barrels for them.
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