ak-22 full auto?

dean gulbery · December 11, 2005, 10:14 PM

just wondering if anyone knows how to make an ak-22 rimfire rifle "which is .22 caliber" but looks like an ak-47" full auto? if you have any knowledge or ideas i would appreciate it.

Bonstrosity · December 11, 2005, 10:43 PM

No one on this forum knows how to do that sort of thing...even if they did no one would tell you how to make one...you could purchase one that was made before 1986 because it is highly illegal. I'm sure it'll be pretty expensive then you have to pay the 200 dollar tax. If you're talking about owning an AK that shoots .22 that is a semi auto, that is legal.

Henry Baker · December 12, 2005, 04:23 PM

Step One: Get gun

Step Two: Modify to full auto

Step Three: Go to Federal "Ram me in the ass" prison for oh, say 23 years

Step Four: Never touch another gun as long as you live

Wraith · December 12, 2005, 05:23 PM

You know what I don't get?

Why is it that these morons come around, at least one every other week, asking how to make a semi into a full auto? They always have very few posts, on the order of 1 or 2, and they never go into detail.

Reminds me of the Shotgun News add for auto-sears. Just mail your ssn# to Arlington Virginia. Maybe a JBT who wants to try out the department's new tracing software?

Balloo · December 12, 2005, 07:38 PM

All I can say if you do that and get caught you better not drop the soap.

JeepJohn · December 12, 2005, 09:35 PM

My first post, but I've viewed many here, trying to find info on various firearms.

Full-Auto is overated. It looks Cool in Hollywood movies, and that bank robbery in LA, but it only waists ammo. Don't believe me, watch the news channels as they show fighting in our current war. Pop, Pop, Pop, etc...

Controlled fire, single shots, are far more effective than spray and pray!

Learn how to shoot your gun accuratly, not foolishly

Stiletto · December 12, 2005, 10:48 PM

Might be fun with .22LR, to be fair; miniscule recoil impulse.

shaggy · December 13, 2005, 07:35 AM

(sigh...)

If you want a full auto, you need to buy one that was made and registered with BATF prior to 5-19-86 - it will transfer via a Form 4 from a C3 dealer in your state or from another individual in your state. There are a small number of registered .22 AKs on the registry so if you have the funds you could buy one, but last I saw the prices for one were in the $6-7k range.

too many choices!? · December 14, 2005, 12:11 AM

Some people(usually named Bubba for some reason

) say all you have to do is*best redneck voice*,"File da sear"...

:barf:

Avid Concealer · December 14, 2005, 05:59 AM

JeepJohn, Welcome, and we know that ; ) At least most of us do. Machine guns and full auto are used mainly for supression. It keeps the enemy's head down while you are moving. It makes for good cover fire. When you want accuracy, you do 3 shot burst...or my favorite...single shots.

dean gulbery · December 15, 2005, 01:33 AM

ya just thought it would be fun to shoot once or twice but my mom told me it wouldnt be a smart idea..."yay mom"

P226 · December 15, 2005, 06:30 AM

For real .22LR auto fun you need one of these with a registered M16 receiver. Mmmm belt-fed .22LR.

http://www.lakesideguns.com/title1/upper.html

Glock 31 · December 15, 2005, 06:57 AM

I had an AR-7 survival rifle with a 25 round banana clip that would sometimes go full auto when you least expected it. Real fun, but put some weird looks on the guys shooting next to me at the range.

Glock 31 · December 15, 2005, 07:02 AM

P226,

The 22.LR M-16, how much is it, if it's belt fed what is the purpose of the magazine well on the bottom if any, and do you still need a permit for the full auto since the website said something about not a firearm and not a reciever? Something to that effect.

shaggy · December 15, 2005, 07:43 AM

The LM-7 is just a .22 beltfed upper for an AR15 or M16 lower. It'll work on either type lower, so if you want a full auto one, you'll need to first find and buy a registered M16 lower (about $9-10k for a non-Colt conversion, much more for an original factory Colt gun). The LM-7 has not been released for public sale yet, but will be soon (Lakeside Guns was waiting on an approval from BATFE). The pre-release introductory price was $1750, but it may have increased if you didn't get a deposit in on the first batch. I already have a deposit on one and can't wait to get my hands on the thing. From what I've heard from people who have seen and handled it at the SAR show and Knob Creek, its a well designed and made piece. Basically a Browning 1919 action adapted for use with a hammer, and mounted on the AR15/M16 receiver.

What Lakeside was referring to about it not being a firearm or receiver on their website is just the upper. there was some speculation BATFE may define just the upper as a firearm, so to buy just the upper you'd need to fill out a 4473. Additionally, were that the case, if you had the Lakeside upper unit and wanted to cut the barrel down to below 16", you'd need a separate registration for the upper as an SBR - another $200 tax. It had nothing to do with the host lower not being needed to be registered as a machinegun. Fortunately BATFE approved it as a non-firearm, as any other AR15/M16 upper.

Glock 31 · December 15, 2005, 07:49 AM

I have a bushmaster varminter model xm15-e2s, will it work with that model?

shaggy · December 15, 2005, 08:35 AM

Yup.

too many choices!? · December 15, 2005, 01:38 PM

I bet with an H-bar and some time behind the trigger, you'll be able to right your name with it within a week

for you,

for me....lol

One of these days I am going to take you up on the offer(if it still stands) to head up there and shoot your toys, especially once you get that upper

.

guy sajer · December 16, 2005, 11:41 PM

Sorry , it's not belt fed . That would be fun . Have to settle for 30 rd burst with no muzzle rise

mp7 · January 9, 2006, 06:12 PM

I suggest you a KKMPi 69 is a cal 22 Ak-47 full auto made in DDR

Theohazard · August 18, 2015, 01:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bhhltf

any legal registered full auto weapons are a great investment.

Unless the Hughes Amendment is repealed, in which case they're a terrible investment.

Willie Lowman · August 18, 2015, 07:36 PM

I hope it will be but I don't expect it to happen.

**Tom Servo** · August 18, 2015, 07:47 PM

This thread is nearly ten years old. It's gotten a bit stiff and smelly, and it keeps calling for braaaaains.

December 11, 2005, 10:14 PM	#1
dean gulbery Junior Member Join Date: December 10, 2005 Posts: 3	ak-22 full auto? just wondering if anyone knows how to make an ak-22 rimfire rifle "which is .22 caliber" but looks like an ak-47" full auto? if you have any knowledge or ideas i would appreciate it.

December 12, 2005, 04:23 PM	#3
Henry Baker Senior Member Join Date: August 8, 2005 Location: Central Florida Posts: 199	Step One: Get gun Step Two: Modify to full auto Step Three: Go to Federal "Ram me in the ass" prison for oh, say 23 years Step Four: Never touch another gun as long as you live __________________ "A fear or hatred of firearms is an unmistakable sign of emotional and sexual immaturity." Dr.Sigmund Freud

December 12, 2005, 05:23 PM	#4
Wraith Senior Member Join Date: July 22, 2004 Location: The Free State Posts: 498	You know what I don't get? Why is it that these morons come around, at least one every other week, asking how to make a semi into a full auto? They always have very few posts, on the order of 1 or 2, and they never go into detail. Reminds me of the Shotgun News add for auto-sears. Just mail your ssn# to Arlington Virginia. Maybe a JBT who wants to try out the department's new tracing software? __________________ June 23, 2003 GRATZ et al. v. BOLLINGER et al. The day America died. Never Forget 9/11. Cold dead hands...

December 12, 2005, 07:38 PM	#5
Balloo Member Join Date: September 29, 2005 Location: New Orleans,LA Posts: 41	Big Bubba B callin this one All I can say if you do that and get caught you better not drop the soap.

December 12, 2005, 09:35 PM	#6
JeepJohn Junior Member Join Date: December 12, 2005 Posts: 1	Why would you want Full auto anyway? My first post, but I've viewed many here, trying to find info on various firearms. Full-Auto is overated. It looks Cool in Hollywood movies, and that bank robbery in LA, but it only waists ammo. Don't believe me, watch the news channels as they show fighting in our current war. Pop, Pop, Pop, etc... Controlled fire, single shots, are far more effective than spray and pray! Learn how to shoot your gun accuratly, not foolishly

December 11, 2005, 10:43 PM	#2
Bonstrosity Senior Member Join Date: August 27, 2005 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 322	No one on this forum knows how to do that sort of thing...even if they did no one would tell you how to make one...you could purchase one that was made before 1986 because it is highly illegal. I'm sure it'll be pretty expensive then you have to pay the 200 dollar tax. If you're talking about owning an AK that shoots .22 that is a semi auto, that is legal.

December 12, 2005, 10:48 PM	#7
Stiletto Senior Member Join Date: March 9, 2005 Posts: 388	Might be fun with .22LR, to be fair; miniscule recoil impulse.

December 13, 2005, 07:35 AM	#8
shaggy Senior Member Join Date: October 9, 2004 Posts: 1,519	(sigh...) If you want a full auto, you need to buy one that was made and registered with BATF prior to 5-19-86 - it will transfer via a Form 4 from a C3 dealer in your state or from another individual in your state. There are a small number of registered .22 AKs on the registry so if you have the funds you could buy one, but last I saw the prices for one were in the $6-7k range.

December 14, 2005, 12:11 AM	#9
too many choices!? Senior Member Join Date: December 19, 2004 Posts: 371	Not Actual Advice, Don't Try This At Home, Etc, Etc Some people(usually named Bubba for some reason ) say all you have to do isbest redneck voice,"File da sear"... :barf:

December 14, 2005, 05:59 AM	#10
Avid Concealer Senior Member Join Date: April 6, 2005 Posts: 166	JeepJohn, Welcome, and we know that ; ) At least most of us do. Machine guns and full auto are used mainly for supression. It keeps the enemy's head down while you are moving. It makes for good cover fire. When you want accuracy, you do 3 shot burst...or my favorite...single shots. __________________ "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." ~Thomas Jefferson~

December 15, 2005, 01:33 AM	#11
dean gulbery Junior Member Join Date: December 10, 2005 Posts: 3	ok ya just thought it would be fun to shoot once or twice but my mom told me it wouldnt be a smart idea..."yay mom"

December 15, 2005, 06:30 AM	#12
P226 Member Join Date: September 5, 2004 Posts: 90	For real .22LR auto fun you need one of these with a registered M16 receiver. Mmmm belt-fed .22LR. http://www.lakesideguns.com/title1/upper.html __________________ "Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun." -Mao Tse-tung "Knowledge is power" -Sir Francis Bacon I have both.

December 15, 2005, 06:57 AM	#13
Glock 31 Senior Member Join Date: October 30, 2005 Posts: 541	I had an AR-7 survival rifle with a 25 round banana clip that would sometimes go full auto when you least expected it. Real fun, but put some weird looks on the guys shooting next to me at the range.

December 15, 2005, 07:02 AM	#14
Glock 31 Senior Member Join Date: October 30, 2005 Posts: 541	P226, The 22.LR M-16, how much is it, if it's belt fed what is the purpose of the magazine well on the bottom if any, and do you still need a permit for the full auto since the website said something about not a firearm and not a reciever? Something to that effect.

December 15, 2005, 07:43 AM	#15
shaggy Senior Member Join Date: October 9, 2004 Posts: 1,519	The LM-7 is just a .22 beltfed upper for an AR15 or M16 lower. It'll work on either type lower, so if you want a full auto one, you'll need to first find and buy a registered M16 lower (about $9-10k for a non-Colt conversion, much more for an original factory Colt gun). The LM-7 has not been released for public sale yet, but will be soon (Lakeside Guns was waiting on an approval from BATFE). The pre-release introductory price was $1750, but it may have increased if you didn't get a deposit in on the first batch. I already have a deposit on one and can't wait to get my hands on the thing. From what I've heard from people who have seen and handled it at the SAR show and Knob Creek, its a well designed and made piece. Basically a Browning 1919 action adapted for use with a hammer, and mounted on the AR15/M16 receiver. What Lakeside was referring to about it not being a firearm or receiver on their website is just the upper. there was some speculation BATFE may define just the upper as a firearm, so to buy just the upper you'd need to fill out a 4473. Additionally, were that the case, if you had the Lakeside upper unit and wanted to cut the barrel down to below 16", you'd need a separate registration for the upper as an SBR - another $200 tax. It had nothing to do with the host lower not being needed to be registered as a machinegun. Fortunately BATFE approved it as a non-firearm, as any other AR15/M16 upper.

December 15, 2005, 07:49 AM	#16
Glock 31 Senior Member Join Date: October 30, 2005 Posts: 541	I have a bushmaster varminter model xm15-e2s, will it work with that model?

December 15, 2005, 08:35 AM	#17
shaggy Senior Member Join Date: October 9, 2004 Posts: 1,519	Yup.

December 15, 2005, 01:38 PM	#18
too many choices!? Senior Member Join Date: December 19, 2004 Posts: 371	Hmmm, I bet with an H-bar and some time behind the trigger, you'll be able to right your name with it within a week for you, for me....lol One of these days I am going to take you up on the offer(if it still stands) to head up there and shoot your toys, especially once you get that upper .

December 16, 2005, 11:41 PM	#19
guy sajer Senior Member Join Date: December 7, 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 329	Sorry , it's not belt fed . That would be fun . Have to settle for 30 rd burst with no muzzle rise __________________ Mitch Please support Crimson Trace Grips , Mossberg and Beretta . They support our troops .

August 18, 2015, 07:36 PM	#22
Willie Lowman Senior Member Join Date: March 5, 2009 Location: Uh-Hi-O Posts: 3,006	I hope it will be but I don't expect it to happen. __________________ "9mm has a very long history of being a pointy little bullet moving quickly" --Sevens

August 18, 2015, 07:47 PM	#23
Tom Servo Staff Join Date: September 27, 2008 Location: Foothills of the Appalachians Posts: 13,059	This thread is nearly ten years old. It's gotten a bit stiff and smelly, and it keeps calling for braaaaains. __________________ Sometimes it’s nice not to destroy the world for a change. --Randall Munroe

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