which case lube ?

rebs · March 6, 2013, 09:57 AM

I have used RCBS case lube and pad. Although I have read about stuck cases with the Hornady One Shot. That being said I have heard and read so much about Dillon spray case lube, but the cost to order from Dillon is just too much because of the shipping charges. I would really like to give it a try but the cost keeps me from ordering it.
Is there any other spray case lubes on the market that compare to Dillon that are worth a try ?

wncchester · March 6, 2013, 10:38 AM

"Is there any other spray case lubes on the market that compare to Dillon that are worth a try ? "

Yes.

rebs · March 6, 2013, 10:54 AM

what are they ?

jag2 · March 6, 2013, 11:19 AM

One Shot is the best selling spray on the market and if used properly you shouldn't have any problems. There is a bit of a learning curve while you figure out how much spray is needed for different calibers. The advantage to the spray is if you are doing a lot of reloading at one time, if you're doing 50 rounds of some large caliber rifle then you might as well stay with your pad since you are familiar with it. Most (honest) reloaders will admit if they get a stuck with One Shot its because they didn't use enough spray. Just follow the instructions and you will be fine.

mjes92 · March 6, 2013, 11:53 AM

Go with the Dillon spray.
Been using it for years. I mostly reload .223. Put 100-200 cases in a ice cream bucket. 2-3 sprays, mix them around by hand 2-3 more sprays, mix again, done. Look for a local Dillon retailer or rep. They should have it on the shelf. Heck call Dillon, they might be able to give you a list of rep's in your area. I've never been disappointed with a Dillon product.

I stuck one case out of thousands of reloads. Which was my fault. I got a phone call in the middle of re-sizing. Left the case fully engaged in the die. Came back to re-sizing 3 minutes later. One very stuck case. I won't do that again.

Good luck

rox · March 6, 2013, 01:33 PM

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I would really like to give it a try but the cost keeps me from ordering it.

You can make your own 'Dillon' lube with pure liquid lanolin and 99% isopropyl alcohol. I forget the exact proportions, but there are plenty of references online. I use it for sizing Palma ammo in runs of 250 to 500.

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Barbicatter · March 6, 2013, 02:10 PM

Make your own, well thats what I'm planning to do when I run out off my Dillon Case lube. I was using RCBS which was thick, and messy. The Dillon spray quick and easy. I throw the cases in a shoe box give them couple sprays, finger toss them a little, sized over 1,000 round no stuck case yet.(knock on wood) I googled Dillon Case Spray Recipe and came up with several recipes. I do like Dillon products, but I'm with you on the shipping charges on small purchases from them.

Barbicatter · March 6, 2013, 02:14 PM

Oops Double post

reynolds357 · March 6, 2013, 02:39 PM

None of the spray lubes perform as well as Fosters lube. The difference really shows up when dealing with cases with almost no taper that are running very high pressure. When you get the stuff in the dies, you almost can get by with putting none on the case. I run my pad so dry you can hardly tell there is lube on it and have no issues. Press works unbelievably easy.

thump_rrr · March 6, 2013, 06:32 PM

Another one for Dillon case lube and I don't even use a Dillon press.

GWS · March 6, 2013, 07:29 PM

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_42/30...ds.html&page=1

This stuff is ever bit as good as Dillion.....pretty much the same thing....and super easy and cheap to make. I use 1-10 lanolin to alcohol.

603Country · March 6, 2013, 10:50 PM

I just use the RCBS. Stuff lasts forever (years and years), so why reinvent the wheel with the stuff you mix up in your garage. You might work up something that's as good as, and you might get some thrill from making your own, but I'd buy the RCBS lube and spend my excess time on some other part of reloading. Trimming maybe...no, I hate trimming. Well, primer pocket cleaning...no, I hate that too. Gimme a minute...I'll think of something.

GWS · March 7, 2013, 01:00 AM

Well....I've used the RCBS stuff too.....for 40 years. Then I bought a progressive, a Pro 2000, and realized there had to be a better, faster way to lube .223, .308, .243, 30-30, & .270 for the progressive....you get the picture.

First I tried the RCBS spray lube.....good stuff, but the fumes are on the toxic side. So then I tried a friend's Dillon spray lube....just dumped my brass in a shallow cardboard box and gave it a couple of squirts....shook the box...two more squirts and let it dry for a few minutes. This method gives you 200 rounds of super-lubed cases ready to be sized in a progressive.

Then I saw the thread I provided the link to in my last post...people sweared that it worked as good as the Dillon stuff.....so I tried it.

It was really hard to make....took a whole 5 minutes....most of which was heating the components in their own bottles in the double boiler. Most pleased....did indeed work as well as the Dillon stuff....only I have more than twice the amount in a bottle of Dillon Lube, and enough left in the bottles to make another batch.....the two bottles together cost me $10 and that was buying the lanolin local at $7.00.....internet sources are more like $4.00. (BTW, actually the small bottle of lanolin will make several batches....at 10 to 1 get lots of alcohol!

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But hey! Use the lube pad if you want....certainly works...and is plenty fast .... for a single station press.

zxcvbob · March 7, 2013, 01:11 AM

Cabela's Spray Lube (available from Cabela's) is just like Dillon's but a dollar cheaper.

I made my own using 91% rubbing alcohol and castor oil in a spray bottle, but I don't think I mixed it rich enough. Haven't really tried it though; been in a reloading funk for a couple of months. Castor oil is an extreme pressure lube, and it dissolves completely in alcohol (without heating) even if there's a little water in it.

If you are OK with using something other than a spray, get a tin of Kiwi Mink Oil boot dressing. Put a little on your fingers and you'll get almost enough on the cases just by picking them up. Pick them up and roll them around just a little and you'll be golden.

jeffreyulatan · March 7, 2013, 03:13 AM

I used cooking oil for a while until it turned rancid, and that was quite a nightmare.

Now I switched to use PB Blaster, or motor oil. Dab a little on a foam pad, load with several handfuls of brass, get some tufferware and shake!

ATPBULLETS · March 7, 2013, 07:10 AM

anybody ever try synthetic bar and chain oil....?
what about marvels mystery oil...?

rebs · March 7, 2013, 07:20 AM

I would try the alcohol and lanolin if I could find lanolin around here, but I can't. I have tried every drug store, health store and medical supply store with no luck. If I order it online I am back to paying shipping. If I could buy Dillon locally I would just try it but it is not available, so I am going to stay with RCBS and their lube pad.

BigV · March 7, 2013, 11:52 AM

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http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_42/30...ds.html&page=1

This stuff is ever bit as good as Dillion.....pretty much the same thing....and super easy and cheap to make. I use 1-10 lanolin to alcohol.

I've been using this home made case lube for 3 or 4 years reloading .223 and .22-250. Never a stuck case and very inexpensive to make.

GWS · March 7, 2013, 02:39 PM

Rebs: I went to Amazon and found

Now Foods Liquid Lanolin Pure - 4 oz
$7.83 Sold by: Nutricity

Alcohol 99% Isopropyl Pint
$7.25 Sold by: JDCSupplies

Those merchants are freight-Free.... $15.08 (one order to Amazon) pricier than when I ordered a few months ago....like everything else.

Still ... If you mix 1.5 oz of lanolin and 15 oz. of Alcohol then you can make fill two 8 OZ spray bottles (16.5 OZ of case lube) and have 2.5 OZ of lanolin left over.

One 8 OZ bottle of Dillon's product from Dillon is $8.95 plus $7.49 shipping....$16.44.

reynolds357 · March 7, 2013, 08:21 PM

Why the need to use everything but lube actually intended for reloading. In the tabulation of reloading costs, lube has to be the cheapest item in the equation. Fosters, the best stuff out there period, probably costs me 5 cents per 100 rounds of rifle brass to use.

rebs · March 7, 2013, 08:36 PM

Quote:

Rebs: I went to Amazon and found

Now Foods Liquid Lanolin Pure - 4 oz
$7.83 Sold by: Nutricity

Alcohol 99% Isopropyl Pint
$7.25 Sold by: JDCSupplies

Those merchants are freight-Free.... $15.08 (one order to Amazon) pricier than when I ordered a few months ago....like everything else.

GWS thank you, I will order now

March 6, 2013, 09:57 AM	#1
rebs Senior Member Join Date: January 10, 2012 Posts: 3,881	which case lube ? I have used RCBS case lube and pad. Although I have read about stuck cases with the Hornady One Shot. That being said I have heard and read so much about Dillon spray case lube, but the cost to order from Dillon is just too much because of the shipping charges. I would really like to give it a try but the cost keeps me from ordering it. Is there any other spray case lubes on the market that compare to Dillon that are worth a try ?

March 6, 2013, 11:53 AM	#5
mjes92 Senior Member Join Date: January 28, 2013 Location: Land of 10,000 taxes Posts: 211	Go with the Dillon spray. Been using it for years. I mostly reload .223. Put 100-200 cases in a ice cream bucket. 2-3 sprays, mix them around by hand 2-3 more sprays, mix again, done. Look for a local Dillon retailer or rep. They should have it on the shelf. Heck call Dillon, they might be able to give you a list of rep's in your area. I've never been disappointed with a Dillon product. I stuck one case out of thousands of reloads. Which was my fault. I got a phone call in the middle of re-sizing. Left the case fully engaged in the die. Came back to re-sizing 3 minutes later. One very stuck case. I won't do that again. Good luck __________________ Dad !!! "It's only going to be perfect if you do it yourself." - my teenage daughter Dad !!! "I'm not scared" My Cancer fighting daughter." Cancer Sucks NRA - Life Member

March 7, 2013, 01:00 AM	#13
GWS Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2010 Location: New Mexico Posts: 688	Well....I've used the RCBS stuff too.....for 40 years. Then I bought a progressive, a Pro 2000, and realized there had to be a better, faster way to lube .223, .308, .243, 30-30, & .270 for the progressive....you get the picture. First I tried the RCBS spray lube.....good stuff, but the fumes are on the toxic side. So then I tried a friend's Dillon spray lube....just dumped my brass in a shallow cardboard box and gave it a couple of squirts....shook the box...two more squirts and let it dry for a few minutes. This method gives you 200 rounds of super-lubed cases ready to be sized in a progressive. Then I saw the thread I provided the link to in my last post...people sweared that it worked as good as the Dillon stuff.....so I tried it. It was really hard to make....took a whole 5 minutes....most of which was heating the components in their own bottles in the double boiler. Most pleased....did indeed work as well as the Dillon stuff....only I have more than twice the amount in a bottle of Dillon Lube, and enough left in the bottles to make another batch.....the two bottles together cost me $10 and that was buying the lanolin local at $7.00.....internet sources are more like $4.00. (BTW, actually the small bottle of lanolin will make several batches....at 10 to 1 get lots of alcohol!) But hey! Use the lube pad if you want....certainly works...and is plenty fast .... for a single station press. Last edited by GWS; March 7, 2013 at 01:47 AM.

March 7, 2013, 03:13 AM	#15
jeffreyulatan Member Join Date: October 22, 2012 Location: Guam Posts: 47	I used cooking oil for a while until it turned rancid, and that was quite a nightmare. Now I switched to use PB Blaster, or motor oil. Dab a little on a foam pad, load with several handfuls of brass, get some tufferware and shake! __________________ Delta Firearms Mfg Co. 07/08 FFL SOT 2, Hobby Shop Owner

March 7, 2013, 07:10 AM	#16
ATPBULLETS Senior Member Join Date: July 31, 2012 Location: Land between the Lakes Posts: 267	anybody ever try synthetic bar and chain oil....? what about marvels mystery oil...? __________________ http://i805.photobucket.com/albums/y...e/photo-25.jpg

March 6, 2013, 10:38 AM	#2
wncchester Senior Member Join Date: December 1, 2002 Posts: 2,832	"Is there any other spray case lubes on the market that compare to Dillon that are worth a try ? " Yes.

March 6, 2013, 10:54 AM	#3
rebs Senior Member Join Date: January 10, 2012 Posts: 3,881	what are they ?

March 6, 2013, 11:19 AM	#4
jag2 Senior Member Join Date: June 30, 2009 Location: dallas Posts: 773	One Shot is the best selling spray on the market and if used properly you shouldn't have any problems. There is a bit of a learning curve while you figure out how much spray is needed for different calibers. The advantage to the spray is if you are doing a lot of reloading at one time, if you're doing 50 rounds of some large caliber rifle then you might as well stay with your pad since you are familiar with it. Most (honest) reloaders will admit if they get a stuck with One Shot its because they didn't use enough spray. Just follow the instructions and you will be fine.

March 6, 2013, 02:10 PM	#7
Barbicatter Senior Member Join Date: November 27, 2009 Location: Clay, AL Posts: 223	Make your own, well thats what I'm planning to do when I run out off my Dillon Case lube. I was using RCBS which was thick, and messy. The Dillon spray quick and easy. I throw the cases in a shoe box give them couple sprays, finger toss them a little, sized over 1,000 round no stuck case yet.(knock on wood) I googled Dillon Case Spray Recipe and came up with several recipes. I do like Dillon products, but I'm with you on the shipping charges on small purchases from them.

March 6, 2013, 02:14 PM	#8
Barbicatter Senior Member Join Date: November 27, 2009 Location: Clay, AL Posts: 223	Oops Double post

March 6, 2013, 02:39 PM	#9
reynolds357 Senior Member Join Date: December 10, 2012 Posts: 6,165	None of the spray lubes perform as well as Fosters lube. The difference really shows up when dealing with cases with almost no taper that are running very high pressure. When you get the stuff in the dies, you almost can get by with putting none on the case. I run my pad so dry you can hardly tell there is lube on it and have no issues. Press works unbelievably easy.

March 6, 2013, 06:32 PM	#10
thump_rrr Senior Member Join Date: October 12, 2010 Posts: 403	Another one for Dillon case lube and I don't even use a Dillon press.

March 6, 2013, 07:29 PM	#11
GWS Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2010 Location: New Mexico Posts: 688	http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_42/30...ds.html&page=1 This stuff is ever bit as good as Dillion.....pretty much the same thing....and super easy and cheap to make. I use 1-10 lanolin to alcohol.

March 6, 2013, 10:50 PM	#12
603Country Senior Member Join Date: January 6, 2011 Location: Thornton, Texas Posts: 3,998	I just use the RCBS. Stuff lasts forever (years and years), so why reinvent the wheel with the stuff you mix up in your garage. You might work up something that's as good as, and you might get some thrill from making your own, but I'd buy the RCBS lube and spend my excess time on some other part of reloading. Trimming maybe...no, I hate trimming. Well, primer pocket cleaning...no, I hate that too. Gimme a minute...I'll think of something.

March 7, 2013, 01:11 AM	#14
zxcvbob Senior Member Join Date: December 20, 2007 Location: S.E. Minnesota Posts: 4,720	Cabela's Spray Lube (available from Cabela's) is just like Dillon's but a dollar cheaper. I made my own using 91% rubbing alcohol and castor oil in a spray bottle, but I don't think I mixed it rich enough. Haven't really tried it though; been in a reloading funk for a couple of months. Castor oil is an extreme pressure lube, and it dissolves completely in alcohol (without heating) even if there's a little water in it. If you are OK with using something other than a spray, get a tin of Kiwi Mink Oil boot dressing. Put a little on your fingers and you'll get almost enough on the cases just by picking them up. Pick them up and roll them around just a little and you'll be golden.

March 7, 2013, 07:20 AM	#17
rebs Senior Member Join Date: January 10, 2012 Posts: 3,881	I would try the alcohol and lanolin if I could find lanolin around here, but I can't. I have tried every drug store, health store and medical supply store with no luck. If I order it online I am back to paying shipping. If I could buy Dillon locally I would just try it but it is not available, so I am going to stay with RCBS and their lube pad.

March 7, 2013, 02:39 PM	#19
GWS Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2010 Location: New Mexico Posts: 688	Rebs: I went to Amazon and found Now Foods Liquid Lanolin Pure - 4 oz $7.83 Sold by: Nutricity Alcohol 99% Isopropyl Pint $7.25 Sold by: JDCSupplies Those merchants are freight-Free.... $15.08 (one order to Amazon) pricier than when I ordered a few months ago....like everything else. Still ... If you mix 1.5 oz of lanolin and 15 oz. of Alcohol then you can make fill two 8 OZ spray bottles (16.5 OZ of case lube) and have 2.5 OZ of lanolin left over. One 8 OZ bottle of Dillon's product from Dillon is $8.95 plus $7.49 shipping....$16.44. Last edited by GWS; March 7, 2013 at 04:18 PM.

March 7, 2013, 08:21 PM	#20
reynolds357 Senior Member Join Date: December 10, 2012 Posts: 6,165	Why the need to use everything but lube actually intended for reloading. In the tabulation of reloading costs, lube has to be the cheapest item in the equation. Fosters, the best stuff out there period, probably costs me 5 cents per 100 rounds of rifle brass to use.