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September 20, 2010, 06:52 PM | #1 |
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Quickload info on .30-30 win
Hello;
I am attempting to load a round for my dads old Winchester model 54 in 30-30 win. I would like to use the Sierra 168 gr. HPBT using RL-15 or Varget powders, however I can not locate any info in the manuals for those combinations. The information that I do have follows: Water and case weight 175.6 gr. Empty case weight 129.9 gr. Case length 2.028 Bullet length 1.125 COL 2.778 Seating depth .455 Any information on a starting charge using the above stated powders would save me time and energy!! Thanks in advance.
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September 20, 2010, 09:42 PM | #2 |
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Have you looked here for Varget? http://data.hodgdon.com/main_menu.asp
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September 21, 2010, 11:49 AM | #3 |
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Use data for 170 gr bullets.
Lyman says the load for Rx15 with the 170 gr FP is 29.0 gr min, 32.0 gr max. Sorry, no data for Varget.
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September 22, 2010, 11:33 PM | #4 |
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Loads listed are estimated maximum loads. Reduce by 10% and work up. Use data at your own risk.
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Cartridge : .30-30 Win. (SAAMI) Bullet : .308, 168, Sierra HPBT MK 2200 Useable Case Capaci: 37.614 grain H2O = 2.442 cm³ Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.778 inch = 70.56 mm Barrel Length : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders. Matching Maximum Pressure: 39500 psi, or 272 MPa or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 105 % These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window. C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations. USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON ! 53 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 85%. These powders have been skipped. Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time % Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms --------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------- IMR 3031 96.6 31.3 2.03 2295 99.5 39500 5311 1.392 ! Near Maximum ! Accurate 2495 97.5 32.0 2.07 2282 99.8 39500 5304 1.441 ! Near Maximum ! Accurate 4064 104.6 33.9 2.20 2281 98.7 39500 5465 1.437 ! Near Maximum ! Vihtavuori N550 104.2 36.9 2.39 2281 91.4 39500 5787 1.398 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon BL-C2 91.7 34.7 2.25 2273 95.6 39500 5559 1.404 ! Near Maximum ! Winchester 748 88.7 33.1 2.14 2270 96.6 39500 5407 1.397 ! Near Maximum ! Ramshot BigGame 99.2 35.5 2.30 2269 93.4 39500 5604 1.397 ! Near Maximum ! IMR 4895 95.5 33.1 2.14 2268 94.1 39500 5562 1.409 ! Near Maximum ! Accurate 2520 94.3 33.7 2.18 2266 97.6 39500 5361 1.417 ! Near Maximum ! Alliant Reloder-15 96.1 33.3 2.16 2252 93.2 39500 5468 1.413 ! Near Maximum ! Alliant Reloder-17 97.0 35.3 2.29 2252 92.0 39500 5599 1.397 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon H414 101.2 37.1 2.40 2250 86.9 39500 5628 1.401 ! Near Maximum ! Winchester 760 101.2 37.1 2.40 2250 86.9 39500 5628 1.401 ! Near Maximum ! Vihtavuori N135 102.7 32.3 2.09 2246 99.6 39500 4972 1.411 ! Near Maximum ! Vihtavuori N540 95.5 33.5 2.17 2243 98.0 39500 5265 1.413 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon H4895 91.9 31.9 2.07 2242 94.7 39500 5356 1.418 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon H322 88.4 29.7 1.93 2237 98.9 39500 5022 1.406 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon H380 97.9 34.7 2.25 2234 91.1 39500 5425 1.420 ! Near Maximum ! Ramshot TAC 86.9 32.3 2.09 2232 95.7 39500 5235 1.414 ! Near Maximum ! IMR 4320 97.2 33.2 2.15 2225 93.2 39500 5237 1.403 ! Near Maximum ! Vihtavuori N530 88.4 30.8 2.00 2223 95.7 39500 5171 1.418 ! Near Maximum ! Vihtavuori N140 95.2 32.4 2.10 2222 98.4 39500 4987 1.414 ! Near Maximum ! Accurate 2460 87.3 32.5 2.10 2219 96.7 39500 5115 1.440 ! Near Maximum ! Alliant Reloder-10x 85.3 27.9 1.81 2211 100.0 39500 4718 1.432 ! Near Maximum ! Alliant Reloder-12 87.9 31.1 2.01 2209 98.8 39500 4885 1.417 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon VARGET 97.3 32.6 2.12 2208 92.7 39500 5161 1.414 ! Near Maximum ! Ramshot Hunter 105.0 37.6 2.44 2206 86.8 37295 5560 1.438 ! Near Maximum ! Accurate 2230 85.5 31.8 2.06 2206 96.6 39500 5013 1.437 ! Near Maximum ! Vihtavuori N150 105.0 34.4 2.23 2205 95.8 38102 5149 1.434 ! Near Maximum ! IMR 4064 98.2 32.2 2.08 2205 93.1 39500 5101 1.419 ! Near Maximum ! Accurate 2015 87.4 29.3 1.90 2203 99.8 39500 4714 1.440 ! Near Maximum ! IMR 4350 105.0 36.2 2.35 2184 85.8 39253 5149 1.421 ! Near Maximum ! Vihtavuori N133 93.4 29.6 1.92 2176 99.7 39500 4529 1.425 ! Near Maximum ! IMR 4007 SSC 98.3 34.6 2.24 2175 86.3 39500 5103 1.437 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon Benchmark 88.0 30.1 1.95 2174 96.2 39500 4821 1.433 ! Near Maximum ! Vihtavuori N130 87.4 28.3 1.84 2165 99.9 39500 4441 1.438 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon H4350 105.0 35.6 2.31 2141 84.5 37026 5025 1.458 ! Near Maximum ! Accurate 2700 99.0 35.4 2.30 2128 85.7 39500 4761 1.449 ! Near Maximum ! Accurate 4350 105.0 34.8 2.26 2091 86.8 29834 5303 1.563 IMR 4831 105.0 34.9 2.26 2087 87.2 30817 5161 1.551 Alliant Reloder-19 105.0 36.4 2.36 2083 79.4 33253 5088 1.516 Hodgdon Hybrid 100V 105.0 34.0 2.21 2061 89.1 30777 4957 1.554 Winchester Supreme 780 105.0 38.4 2.49 2052 78.8 34050 4858 1.514 Hodgdon H4831 SC 105.0 36.8 2.38 2009 74.3 32348 4682 1.548 IMR 7828 SSC 105.0 37.4 2.42 1998 71.8 31188 4836 1.567 Vihtavuori N560 105.0 37.2 2.41 1982 71.0 28966 4925 1.605 Alliant Reloder-22 105.0 36.8 2.38 1981 74.5 28333 4953 1.615 Accurate MAGPRO 105.0 38.7 2.51 1928 67.1 27599 4727 1.661 Vihtavuori N160 105.0 34.9 2.26 1921 74.3 28798 4289 1.628 Winchester WXR 105.0 36.0 2.33 1920 72.3 26170 4723 1.669 Hodgdon H4831 105.0 35.4 2.29 1919 71.5 28531 4388 1.629 Vihtavuori N165 105.0 36.0 2.33 1898 75.2 26970 4368 1.663 IMR 7828 105.0 35.4 2.29 1870 67.3 26162 4358 1.683 Alliant Reloder-25 105.0 36.2 2.35 1843 71.4 24000 4509 1.737 Ramshot Magnum (Big Boy) 105.0 39.0 2.53 1826 64.1 25939 4311 1.726 Accurate 3100 105.0 34.4 2.23 1788 74.4 20941 4280 1.820 Hodgdon H1000 105.0 36.0 2.33 1720 60.0 22766 3638 1.807 Vihtavuori N570 105.0 38.4 2.49 1669 50.6 20693 3669 1.899 Hodgdon Retumbo 105.0 36.6 2.37 1644 56.6 19603 3518 1.955 Vihtavuori N170 105.0 36.0 2.33 1635 56.1 19472 3475 1.957 Vihtavuori 24N41 105.0 38.8 2.51 1609 46.8 21036 3113 1.923 Hodgdon H870 105.0 37.6 2.44 1524 46.5 16975 3075 2.080 Hodgdon 50BMG 105.0 37.0 2.40 1495 41.0 17323 2783 2.077 Hodgdon US 869 105.0 38.8 2.51 1476 42.1 17030 2725 2.105 Alliant Reloder-50 105.0 39.4 2.55 1421 39.9 14753 2798 2.207 Accurate 8700 105.0 37.3 2.42 1366 39.1 14653 2309 2.259 Vihtavuori 20N29 105.0 39.2 2.54 1356 37.3 14406 2360 2.270 |
September 23, 2010, 12:33 AM | #5 |
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CAUTION: The following post includes loading data beyond currently published maximums for this cartridge. USE AT YOUR OWN RISK. Neither the writer, The Firing Line, nor the staff of TFL assume any liability for any damage or injury resulting from use of this information.
I have been working up a load with a 30-30 in a strong action. Quickload says I am at 92 kpsi. I can't fit any more W748 behind a 220 gr bullet. I would like to go higher in pressure. |
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