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Old September 20, 2010, 06:52 PM   #1
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Quickload info on .30-30 win

Hello;
I am attempting to load a round for my dads old Winchester model 54 in 30-30 win.
I would like to use the Sierra 168 gr. HPBT using RL-15 or Varget powders, however I can not locate any info in the manuals for those combinations.
The information that I do have follows:
Water and case weight 175.6 gr.
Empty case weight 129.9 gr.

Case length 2.028
Bullet length 1.125
COL 2.778
Seating depth .455

Any information on a starting charge using the above stated powders would save me time and energy!! Thanks in advance.
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Old September 20, 2010, 09:42 PM   #2
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Have you looked here for Varget? http://data.hodgdon.com/main_menu.asp
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Old September 21, 2010, 11:49 AM   #3
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Use data for 170 gr bullets.
Lyman says the load for Rx15 with the 170 gr FP is 29.0 gr min, 32.0 gr max.
Sorry, no data for Varget.
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Old September 22, 2010, 11:33 PM   #4
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Loads listed are estimated maximum loads. Reduce by 10% and work up. Use data at your own risk.

Code:
Cartridge          : .30-30 Win. (SAAMI)
Bullet             : .308, 168, Sierra HPBT MK 2200
Useable Case Capaci: 37.614 grain H2O = 2.442 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.778 inch = 70.56 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 39500 psi, or 272 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 105 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

53 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 85%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
IMR 3031                            96.6     31.3     2.03    2295    99.5    39500    5311   1.392  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2495                       97.5     32.0     2.07    2282    99.8    39500    5304   1.441  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4064                      104.6     33.9     2.20    2281    98.7    39500    5465   1.437  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550                    104.2     36.9     2.39    2281    91.4    39500    5787   1.398  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon BL-C2                       91.7     34.7     2.25    2273    95.6    39500    5559   1.404  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 748                      88.7     33.1     2.14    2270    96.6    39500    5407   1.397  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot BigGame                     99.2     35.5     2.30    2269    93.4    39500    5604   1.397  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4895                            95.5     33.1     2.14    2268    94.1    39500    5562   1.409  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2520                       94.3     33.7     2.18    2266    97.6    39500    5361   1.417  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-15                  96.1     33.3     2.16    2252    93.2    39500    5468   1.413  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-17                  97.0     35.3     2.29    2252    92.0    39500    5599   1.397  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414                       101.2     37.1     2.40    2250    86.9    39500    5628   1.401  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760                     101.2     37.1     2.40    2250    86.9    39500    5628   1.401  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N135                    102.7     32.3     2.09    2246    99.6    39500    4972   1.411  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N540                     95.5     33.5     2.17    2243    98.0    39500    5265   1.413  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4895                       91.9     31.9     2.07    2242    94.7    39500    5356   1.418  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H322                        88.4     29.7     1.93    2237    98.9    39500    5022   1.406  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H380                        97.9     34.7     2.25    2234    91.1    39500    5425   1.420  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot TAC                         86.9     32.3     2.09    2232    95.7    39500    5235   1.414  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4320                            97.2     33.2     2.15    2225    93.2    39500    5237   1.403  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N530                     88.4     30.8     2.00    2223    95.7    39500    5171   1.418  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N140                     95.2     32.4     2.10    2222    98.4    39500    4987   1.414  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2460                       87.3     32.5     2.10    2219    96.7    39500    5115   1.440  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-10x                 85.3     27.9     1.81    2211   100.0    39500    4718   1.432  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-12                  87.9     31.1     2.01    2209    98.8    39500    4885   1.417  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon VARGET                      97.3     32.6     2.12    2208    92.7    39500    5161   1.414  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter                     105.0     37.6     2.44    2206    86.8    37295    5560   1.438  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2230                       85.5     31.8     2.06    2206    96.6    39500    5013   1.437  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N150                    105.0     34.4     2.23    2205    95.8    38102    5149   1.434  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4064                            98.2     32.2     2.08    2205    93.1    39500    5101   1.419  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2015                       87.4     29.3     1.90    2203    99.8    39500    4714   1.440  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4350                           105.0     36.2     2.35    2184    85.8    39253    5149   1.421  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N133                     93.4     29.6     1.92    2176    99.7    39500    4529   1.425  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4007 SSC                        98.3     34.6     2.24    2175    86.3    39500    5103   1.437  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Benchmark                   88.0     30.1     1.95    2174    96.2    39500    4821   1.433  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N130                     87.4     28.3     1.84    2165    99.9    39500    4441   1.438  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4350                      105.0     35.6     2.31    2141    84.5    37026    5025   1.458  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2700                       99.0     35.4     2.30    2128    85.7    39500    4761   1.449  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350                      105.0     34.8     2.26    2091    86.8    29834    5303   1.563
IMR 4831                           105.0     34.9     2.26    2087    87.2    30817    5161   1.551
Alliant Reloder-19                 105.0     36.4     2.36    2083    79.4    33253    5088   1.516
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V                105.0     34.0     2.21    2061    89.1    30777    4957   1.554
Winchester Supreme 780             105.0     38.4     2.49    2052    78.8    34050    4858   1.514
Hodgdon H4831 SC                   105.0     36.8     2.38    2009    74.3    32348    4682   1.548
IMR 7828 SSC                       105.0     37.4     2.42    1998    71.8    31188    4836   1.567
Vihtavuori N560                    105.0     37.2     2.41    1982    71.0    28966    4925   1.605
Alliant Reloder-22                 105.0     36.8     2.38    1981    74.5    28333    4953   1.615
Accurate MAGPRO                    105.0     38.7     2.51    1928    67.1    27599    4727   1.661
Vihtavuori N160                    105.0     34.9     2.26    1921    74.3    28798    4289   1.628
Winchester WXR                     105.0     36.0     2.33    1920    72.3    26170    4723   1.669
Hodgdon H4831                      105.0     35.4     2.29    1919    71.5    28531    4388   1.629
Vihtavuori N165                    105.0     36.0     2.33    1898    75.2    26970    4368   1.663
IMR 7828                           105.0     35.4     2.29    1870    67.3    26162    4358   1.683
Alliant Reloder-25                 105.0     36.2     2.35    1843    71.4    24000    4509   1.737
Ramshot Magnum (Big Boy)           105.0     39.0     2.53    1826    64.1    25939    4311   1.726
Accurate 3100                      105.0     34.4     2.23    1788    74.4    20941    4280   1.820
Hodgdon H1000                      105.0     36.0     2.33    1720    60.0    22766    3638   1.807
Vihtavuori N570                    105.0     38.4     2.49    1669    50.6    20693    3669   1.899
Hodgdon Retumbo                    105.0     36.6     2.37    1644    56.6    19603    3518   1.955
Vihtavuori N170                    105.0     36.0     2.33    1635    56.1    19472    3475   1.957
Vihtavuori 24N41                   105.0     38.8     2.51    1609    46.8    21036    3113   1.923
Hodgdon H870                       105.0     37.6     2.44    1524    46.5    16975    3075   2.080
Hodgdon 50BMG                      105.0     37.0     2.40    1495    41.0    17323    2783   2.077
Hodgdon US 869                     105.0     38.8     2.51    1476    42.1    17030    2725   2.105
Alliant Reloder-50                 105.0     39.4     2.55    1421    39.9    14753    2798   2.207
Accurate 8700                      105.0     37.3     2.42    1366    39.1    14653    2309   2.259
Vihtavuori 20N29                   105.0     39.2     2.54    1356    37.3    14406    2360   2.270
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Old September 23, 2010, 12:33 AM   #5
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CAUTION: The following post includes loading data beyond currently published maximums for this cartridge. USE AT YOUR OWN RISK. Neither the writer, The Firing Line, nor the staff of TFL assume any liability for any damage or injury resulting from use of this information.


I have been working up a load with a 30-30 in a strong action.

Quickload says I am at 92 kpsi.
I can't fit any more W748 behind a 220 gr bullet.

I would like to go higher in pressure.
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