Those who reform cases - Page 2

flashhole · March 2, 2009, 05:37 PM

steelrailz - you might find this of interest

http://shootersforum.com/showthread....ight=flashhole

I reform both 270 and 30-06 brass to 25-06 with no problems. The "Greek" 30-06 brass is not head stamped 30-06 so confusion is eliminated.

This link is reforming 223 ==> 221 Fireball. It shows neck turning that may be of interest to you too.

http://shootersforum.com/showthread....ight=flashhole

Pathfinder45 · March 3, 2009, 02:00 AM

I use plenty of '06 brass in my .270. I do segregate all head-stamps so that any given box has identical components. Sometimes I use colored markers on the headstamps to indicate a variety of things. Label the box with complete notes and forget about it.

Magnum Wheel Man · March 3, 2009, 08:11 AM

trying to remember all I reform

22 Hornet to 17 K Hornet
223 to 17 Remington
223 to 6mm TCU
223 to 6.5mm TCU
223 to 7mm TCU
223 to 7.62 X 25
5.7 X 28 to 5.7 X 28 ( reloading these are about as much work as reforming )
220 Swift to 7.62 X 25
50 A.E. to 50 rimless special ( 50 A.E. short )

hmmm... it's early... I'm sure I missed a couple...

on case heads big enough, & with cartridge lengths similar, I "X" out the old headstamp... but for smaller case heads with similar looking cartridges, I use different colored permanent markers to color the case head ( the head stamp usually remains colored for several reloadings, even if the case head color wears off )

I also have been known to write with a black sharpy on the sides of the case if it is something new or "different"

also try to use different colored plastic ammo boxes, which I write full load data on a piece of tape stuck to the box cover...

F. Guffey · March 3, 2009, 02:11 PM

I am building a 338 cal. rifle and chambering it for the 280 Remington case, shoulder is ahead of the 338/06 by .051 thousands, I will use 280 Remington cases necked up to 338 in sets of 25. I will make the sizer die from an existing die, use the 338 Winchester sizer as a neck sizer and the 338 Winchester seating die (for seating). It would be a stretch to say I am forming 280 Remington to 338/280 Remington, I am necking 280 Remington to 338, point being, there is no way to confuse the 338 neck with the 280 neck, an option would be 30/06 military cases with out head stamps, the problem, necking up the 30/06 to 338 compresses, squats or shortens the 30/06 .035 thousands, the 280 is longer than the 30/06 by .044 thousands, the 30/06 could leaves me with a case that that is .065 to .070 too short, the 280 case will require trimming about .015 thousands.
For the most part, cases I form never cost more than .10 cents each plus time and a few tools, 257 Roberts, 6.5/257 Roberts Japanese, 7X57, 8X57, 7.7 Japanese, 7.65X53 B.M. 308 Winchester 30 Gibbs (fire formed) etc., and all of the variations of the 30/06 as in head space, some with .007, 008, .009, .010, .011, .012 all the way to .016, for those I use an Eddystone M1917, it has .016 head apace, cases fired in that chamber provides me with cases that can be sized to fit all 30/06 chambers from .002 over a field gage (.0014) down to .000 head space (short chamber-.005 under a go-gage),

Why the effort? moving the shoulder back is easy, finding cases with the shoulder moved forward more times than not is the difficult part, cases fired in a wide verity of chambers for .08 cents helps and the ability to sort case by length from the case head to the shoulder helps, sorting cases by head stamps is easy, sorting by length takes time.
F. Guffey

dakotashooter2 · March 3, 2009, 04:42 PM

The only thing I have reformed was .308 to .243 headstamp wasn't an issue because there wasn't any. I used mil surp brass.

March 2, 2009, 05:37 PM	#26
flashhole Senior Member Join Date: February 9, 2005 Location: Owego, NY Posts: 2,000	steelrailz - you might find this of interest http://shootersforum.com/showthread....ight=flashhole I reform both 270 and 30-06 brass to 25-06 with no problems. The "Greek" 30-06 brass is not head stamped 30-06 so confusion is eliminated. This link is reforming 223 ==> 221 Fireball. It shows neck turning that may be of interest to you too. http://shootersforum.com/showthread....ight=flashhole __________________ ,,, stupidity comes to some people very easily. 8/22/2017 my wife in a discussion about Liberals. Are you ready for civil war?

March 3, 2009, 02:00 AM	#27
Pathfinder45 Senior Member Join Date: January 7, 2008 Posts: 3,224	No problem...... I use plenty of '06 brass in my .270. I do segregate all head-stamps so that any given box has identical components. Sometimes I use colored markers on the headstamps to indicate a variety of things. Label the box with complete notes and forget about it.

March 3, 2009, 08:11 AM	#28
Magnum Wheel Man Senior Member Join Date: July 26, 2006 Location: Southern Minnesota Posts: 9,333	trying to remember all I reform 22 Hornet to 17 K Hornet 223 to 17 Remington 223 to 6mm TCU 223 to 6.5mm TCU 223 to 7mm TCU 223 to 7.62 X 25 5.7 X 28 to 5.7 X 28 ( reloading these are about as much work as reforming ) 220 Swift to 7.62 X 25 50 A.E. to 50 rimless special ( 50 A.E. short ) hmmm... it's early... I'm sure I missed a couple... on case heads big enough, & with cartridge lengths similar, I "X" out the old headstamp... but for smaller case heads with similar looking cartridges, I use different colored permanent markers to color the case head ( the head stamp usually remains colored for several reloadings, even if the case head color wears off ) I also have been known to write with a black sharpy on the sides of the case if it is something new or "different" also try to use different colored plastic ammo boxes, which I write full load data on a piece of tape stuck to the box cover... __________________ In life you either make dust or eat dust...

March 3, 2009, 02:11 PM	#29
F. Guffey Senior Member Join Date: July 18, 2008 Posts: 7,249	I am building a 338 cal. rifle and chambering it for the 280 Remington case, shoulder is ahead of the 338/06 by .051 thousands, I will use 280 Remington cases necked up to 338 in sets of 25. I will make the sizer die from an existing die, use the 338 Winchester sizer as a neck sizer and the 338 Winchester seating die (for seating). It would be a stretch to say I am forming 280 Remington to 338/280 Remington, I am necking 280 Remington to 338, point being, there is no way to confuse the 338 neck with the 280 neck, an option would be 30/06 military cases with out head stamps, the problem, necking up the 30/06 to 338 compresses, squats or shortens the 30/06 .035 thousands, the 280 is longer than the 30/06 by .044 thousands, the 30/06 could leaves me with a case that that is .065 to .070 too short, the 280 case will require trimming about .015 thousands. For the most part, cases I form never cost more than .10 cents each plus time and a few tools, 257 Roberts, 6.5/257 Roberts Japanese, 7X57, 8X57, 7.7 Japanese, 7.65X53 B.M. 308 Winchester 30 Gibbs (fire formed) etc., and all of the variations of the 30/06 as in head space, some with .007, 008, .009, .010, .011, .012 all the way to .016, for those I use an Eddystone M1917, it has .016 head apace, cases fired in that chamber provides me with cases that can be sized to fit all 30/06 chambers from .002 over a field gage (.0014) down to .000 head space (short chamber-.005 under a go-gage), Why the effort? moving the shoulder back is easy, finding cases with the shoulder moved forward more times than not is the difficult part, cases fired in a wide verity of chambers for .08 cents helps and the ability to sort case by length from the case head to the shoulder helps, sorting cases by head stamps is easy, sorting by length takes time. F. Guffey

March 3, 2009, 04:42 PM	#30
dakotashooter2 Senior Member Join Date: January 13, 2005 Posts: 498	The only thing I have reformed was .308 to .243 headstamp wasn't an issue because there wasn't any. I used mil surp brass.