|
Forum Rules | Firearms Safety | Firearms Photos | Links | Library | Lost Password | Email Changes |
Register | FAQ | Calendar | Today's Posts | Search |
|
Thread Tools | Search this Thread |
April 6, 2013, 01:07 PM | #76 |
Senior Member
Join Date: October 24, 2008
Location: Naples, Fl
Posts: 5,440
|
Yep!
You and me both.
I am told that a trapdoor will shoot fairly well even though the bore may be less than perfect. I hope that is right. Tnx,
__________________
Seek truth. Relax. Take a breath. |
April 6, 2013, 01:08 PM | #77 |
Senior Member
Join Date: September 8, 2007
Location: Mississippi
Posts: 16,188
|
Just don't use jakcketed bullets in it Doc.
|
April 6, 2013, 01:16 PM | #78 |
Senior Member
Join Date: October 24, 2008
Location: Naples, Fl
Posts: 5,440
|
Nope
I am using the Lee mold 405 grain bullet in probably BHN14 lead.
__________________
Seek truth. Relax. Take a breath. |
April 7, 2013, 07:01 PM | #79 |
Senior Member
Join Date: October 24, 2008
Location: Naples, Fl
Posts: 5,440
|
Saddle Ring and Rail
A replacement saddle ring and rail goes for about 80 bucks. So being a tightwad, I decided to try to make my own.
I started out with strap stock that was significantly oversized and milled it down to the right width. Cut and shaped the pads and bent the rail to fit. After braising the parts together, I drilled and counterbored the screw holes.
__________________
Seek truth. Relax. Take a breath. |
April 7, 2013, 07:06 PM | #80 |
Senior Member
Join Date: October 24, 2008
Location: Naples, Fl
Posts: 5,440
|
Saddle Ring and rail
Even though the originals used round stock of different sizes for the ring and rail, mine are the same size.
Here is the fixture attached to the rifle. And a view fromt he port quarter
__________________
Seek truth. Relax. Take a breath. |
April 7, 2013, 07:11 PM | #81 |
Senior Member
Join Date: October 24, 2008
Location: Naples, Fl
Posts: 5,440
|
Here are a coupla shots....
....Of the more or less finished rifle
and the starboard side
__________________
Seek truth. Relax. Take a breath. |
April 7, 2013, 07:20 PM | #82 |
Senior Member
Join Date: September 8, 2007
Location: Mississippi
Posts: 16,188
|
Shaping up good Doc.
|
April 7, 2013, 11:10 PM | #83 |
Senior Member
Join Date: November 18, 2010
Location: Orygun
Posts: 869
|
My TD carbine has the bar & ring sawed off. Guess they didn't like the noise.
__________________
With over 15 perCUSSIN' revolvers, I've been called the Imelda Marcos of cap & ball. SASS#3302 (Life), SASS Regulator, NRA (Life), Dirty Gamey Bastards #129 Wolverton Mtn. Peacekeepers (WA), former Orygun Cowboy (Ranger, Posse from Hell) |
April 8, 2013, 07:47 AM | #84 |
Senior Member
Join Date: October 24, 2008
Location: Naples, Fl
Posts: 5,440
|
SAWED OFF!?
In the immortal words of Peter Boyle, "Holy Crap!"
As technicians we modify our tools and that process results in improvements to our tools. (How many different kinds of hammers are out there?) So, sawing off the saddle ring rail must be viewed as an effort to improve the tool (the rifle) as interpretted by the guy who sawed it off. Maybe he didn't have a saddle.
__________________
Seek truth. Relax. Take a breath. |
April 8, 2013, 09:27 AM | #85 |
Senior Member
Join Date: January 2, 2012
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 3,876
|
Not bad. You want to sell it?
S/S |
April 8, 2013, 10:46 AM | #86 |
Senior Member
Join Date: December 10, 2012
Location: Wichita, KS
Posts: 158
|
Re: I love my trapdoor so much....
Really really nice. That will be a riot to shoot and an awesome family heirloom
|
April 8, 2013, 11:16 AM | #87 |
Senior Member
Join Date: October 24, 2008
Location: Naples, Fl
Posts: 5,440
|
Two reponses
CM,
Thanks. The family would not appreciate it so it has to be a "Doc heirloom". But you are right. I can't wait to shoot the SOB. S/S, Everything is for sale eventually. I'd want too much for this one. I am going to shorten the barrel on the other one just as I did this one. When I have two that are alike, I may come to the conclusion I have too many. (Or as it is with revolvers, not enough.) As Hawg says, there are a coupla inaccuracies in this rifle and also in the other one when it is finished. Too expensive to make it a true representation of a carbine.
__________________
Seek truth. Relax. Take a breath. |
April 8, 2013, 12:27 PM | #88 |
Senior Member
Join Date: January 2, 2012
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 3,876
|
I was just kidding yaw Doc. I wouldn't take your pride and joy away from you. Hmm? ~~?~~Yaw I would!!!_
|
April 8, 2013, 03:44 PM | #89 |
Senior Member
Join Date: November 25, 2012
Location: Eaton Rapids, MI
Posts: 445
|
Very nice...
You do fine work Doc!!!
Birch
__________________
Black Powder: Not because it is easy, but because it is hard, because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills, because that challenge is one that we are willing to accept, one we are unwilling to postpone, and one which we intend to win... |
April 8, 2013, 04:08 PM | #90 |
Senior Member
Join Date: October 24, 2008
Location: Naples, Fl
Posts: 5,440
|
Thanks Birch
I am learning.
__________________
Seek truth. Relax. Take a breath. |
April 8, 2013, 04:13 PM | #91 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 12, 2011
Location: New Mexico
Posts: 1,315
|
You got the cake, bring on the icing!
The suspense is killing me! Please shoot it. I got's to know.
|
April 8, 2013, 04:41 PM | #92 |
Senior Member
Join Date: October 24, 2008
Location: Naples, Fl
Posts: 5,440
|
We are on the same page, Strafer....
My wife is out with her pals tonight.
I might just make up some bullets. I am thinking Sunday.
__________________
Seek truth. Relax. Take a breath. |
April 9, 2013, 10:54 PM | #93 |
Senior Member
Join Date: September 21, 2012
Posts: 144
|
Wow....love it, Doc!
__________________
"You gonna pull those pistols, or whistle Dixie?" |
April 10, 2013, 05:38 AM | #94 |
Senior Member
Join Date: October 24, 2008
Location: Naples, Fl
Posts: 5,440
|
Thanks, Skipper
I have worked myself up to about 150 rounds of .45-70.
As long as I replace failed cases periodically, I think this may be enough to keep me going. I bought the Lee .405 mold and have been shooting those bullets. I have been less than careful as regards hardness but I believe I can keep hardness above 13 consistently now that I am paying closer attention. That bullet has three wide grooves. I am going to use beeswax and mutton tallow in one series of rounds and beeswax and Lard in another. I want to compare the performance of these two differently based lubes.
__________________
Seek truth. Relax. Take a breath. Last edited by Doc Hoy; April 10, 2013 at 07:00 AM. |
April 10, 2013, 07:46 AM | #95 |
Staff
Join Date: November 2, 1998
Location: Colorado
Posts: 21,831
|
nice replacement saddle ring.
__________________
Vigilantibus et non dormientibus jura subveniunt. Molon Labe! |
April 10, 2013, 07:55 AM | #96 |
Senior Member
Join Date: October 24, 2008
Location: Naples, Fl
Posts: 5,440
|
Thanks, Gary
I just mixed up some lube with lard as opposed to mutton tallow.
Since lard is less viscous than mutton tallow, it appears that the revised mix should be 1 part lard to 2 parts beeswax. That gives me about the right consistency. Of course this must be taken into account when calculating the cost of the lube. These two mixes are pretty stiff.
__________________
Seek truth. Relax. Take a breath. |
April 14, 2013, 03:33 PM | #97 |
Senior Member
Join Date: October 24, 2008
Location: Naples, Fl
Posts: 5,440
|
FINALLY!!!
I got to shoot this thing.
What a great shooter! With my eyes I can keep the slug inside the nine ring at 25 yards consistently. The sight is way too short but once I figure the right height for the sight, this thing is going to be a real pleasant surprise. I am using the 405 gr slug from the Lee mold. Triple Seven with powder to the bottom of the bullet an no compression drive the slug to about 1200 fps. I use both lard based lube and mutton based lube interchangeably with identical performance. I love this rifle so much....I might make another one.
__________________
Seek truth. Relax. Take a breath. |
April 16, 2013, 10:38 PM | #98 |
Senior Member
Join Date: September 21, 2012
Posts: 144
|
I envy you!
Man, what a sweet pea shooter, Doc! Really dig the worn look; it adds character! Well done!
__________________
"You gonna pull those pistols, or whistle Dixie?" |
April 17, 2013, 01:24 AM | #99 |
Senior Member
Join Date: October 24, 2008
Location: Naples, Fl
Posts: 5,440
|
Thanks, Skipper
I imagine that the shooting qualities of this rifle are better than the other trapdoor that I have with a 29 inch barrel and the original muzzle crown.
I am wondering if I can make that one shoot better by cutting and crowning the barrel. It will certainly look better.
__________________
Seek truth. Relax. Take a breath. |
April 22, 2013, 05:47 AM | #100 |
Senior Member
Join Date: October 24, 2008
Location: Naples, Fl
Posts: 5,440
|
Finally got off my A __ __ ....
And made the taller sight. I calculated .080 inch taller than the first sight to correct the POI that I experienced last week end.
Made it a little over tall so I can file it down if needed. Now I need to go back out and see how it shoots. My Uncle (RIP) was a serious hunter in SE PA. He shot .270 in a Remington and .308 in a Marlin 336. (Factory loads) He always zeroed his deer rifles at 25 yards. He said this put him right on at hunting distances (150 - 250 yards) So my strategy is to not even try shooting longer than 25 yds until I can get it right. Then I will go out to longer ranges. I think this 22 barrel has better shooting qualities than the other trapdoor I own which is an uncut and original crown 29 inch barrel. I am thinking I can improve that rifle as a shooter by using the same process I did on this one. Cutting that barrel did two things: 1. It rid me of the last ten inches of barrel which was in the worst condition 2. It compelled recrowning the barrel Thoughts anyone?
__________________
Seek truth. Relax. Take a breath. |
|
|