Just got AR-7

swatman · April 14, 2001, 11:21 AM

Just picked up a Charter arms AR-7 with two hi capacity Ram Line mags and one factory Mag. I think this is one of the cooler models since the stick is plastic and has two seperate slots, one that fits the barrel and one for the reciever built right into the stoch so you can take of the butt pad and insert both into the stock for storage.
Got the whole setup and the hi cap mags for 75 bucks.
I will let you know how it shoots I plan on shooting it today.

Jamie Young · April 14, 2001, 11:56 AM

What is an AR-7 ?

swatman · April 14, 2001, 01:12 PM

an AR-7 is a survivalist rifle in .22 lr. It is a semi auto that has an unscrewable barrel and a reciever that can be easily remioved and it breaks down into 3 pieces and can be carried in a backpack for hiking trips, fishing or whatever.

Jamie Young · April 14, 2001, 01:55 PM

WOW thats actually pretty cool sounding. How many rounds do the mags hold?

Bulldog · April 14, 2001, 04:45 PM

http://www.ar-7.com/

http://www.henryrepeating.com/survival.html

Blue Duck357 · April 14, 2001, 05:22 PM

Had a cousin with one years ago that had an "annoying" habit of going full auto

, alas he got it fixed

as he should have. Fun gun to shoot, I liked the sights and break down capability a lot. Accuracy on the specimen I shot was nothing to write home about, but I think we were just shooting one load in it so maybe some experimentation was in order. You got a good buy, enjoy it.

Regards,Blue Duck

swatman · April 15, 2001, 10:26 AM

Well, shot it yesterday. It was pretty cool. The ram line clips hold 30 rounds and the factory mags hold 8. I like the way it shoots when you are firing rapidly, although one thing I found annoying was the rear peep site, it has a piece of flimsy metal behind it with a pin-sized whole too see through, I plan on enlarging it to make it easier to to see.
Overal it makes for a good backpacking emrgency rifle or a good, inexpensive plinker. I was surprised that it was actually pretty accurate. Nothing to write home about, but not too bad either.
One of the perks about buying this one was that it came with the hi cap mags which are pretty hard to find at least for me anyway.

jimc · April 16, 2001, 01:35 AM

i put a tasco pdp111 (1" tubed red dot) on an early ar-7. between the retractable stock, 30rd mag and red dot it looks like a gun that napolean solo used on the man from U.N.C.L.E. tv series.
interesting little toys. i have a few of them.
definetly give the red dot a try.

taprackbang · April 17, 2001, 01:31 AM

the mags made that a super deal.

I sold a couple of those mags last year for $75 each (NIW)

swatman · April 21, 2001, 09:08 AM

Yeah the idea of getting those two mags with it made me happy too. I have never really ever seen them although I havent really been looking either but I had yet to run across any of the ram line mags even at gun shows.

dZ · April 21, 2001, 09:52 PM

seen the tactical version?

http://www.ar-7.com/rifles/rifles.html

jimc · April 22, 2001, 08:34 AM

yes i have one that looks like that, only the rear stock is collaspable. also i own a very early one. that one has a wire retractable stock as well as barrel has flash hider as part of the barrel.

Jeff Thomas · April 22, 2001, 08:03 PM

Hmmm ... I always thought I'd buy a Springfield Amory M6 (see http://www.springfield-armory.com/pr...m6rifles.shtml ) Scout for such duty, but the AR-7 looks much more compact.

Any ideas on:

1. Of the two AR-7's, is the Henry the best?

2. How does the AR-7 compare to the M6 Scout? Which do you prefer, and why?

3. Any other 'survival' rifles out there?

Thanks for the interesting thread. Regards from AZ

Jeff Thomas · April 27, 2001, 08:04 PM

BTT

I'm really curious about these rifles. Any other folks with opinions / info on these handly truck / survival guns?

Thanks. Regards from AZ

swatman · April 27, 2001, 11:53 PM

What is a "flip clip"?
it goes with that AR-20. Not sure what it is.

Kentucky Rifle · April 28, 2001, 05:08 PM

Basically an AR-7, only with a stainless barrel and stainless other goodies. Black synthetic stock. Fits nicely in a cordura nylon pouch that floats. 3.5 pounds. The mags are chrome. Fits right behind the seats of my truck or even in the trunk of my Honda Pacific Coast. Lots of smiles. Pull over, screw the barrel on, load the mags with Stingers, and spend some quality time with your rifle for less than $5.00. (And that's if you shoot 100 rounds!)

Kentucky Rifle

Jeff Thomas · April 29, 2001, 01:07 AM

Thanks, Kentucky Rifle. I noted that 'Boston's Gun Bible' also speaks highly of the Papoose.

Regards from AZ

Pvt. Joker · April 29, 2001, 02:01 AM

Whats a Papoose go for?

-Jared

Jeff Thomas · April 29, 2001, 10:36 AM

My gun store said $210. The going price on the auction sites seems to be $175 to $200, so considering FFL fees, it looks like you might as well special order it from your favorite FFL.

I've been thinking about a rifle for the truck, and the Papoose looks like a good option. Frankly, some folks are saying it is of higher quality than the alternatives.

Apparently it needs optics. Kentucky Rifle, will you be mounting a scope on yours? Picked a model yet? I wonder how much room is in that storage bag ... will the bag accomodate the rifle as well as a mounted scope?

Regards from AZ

Kharn · April 29, 2001, 10:52 AM

The flip clip is two magazines attached at or near the baseplates, with the feed lips facing away from each other. So, you shoot one mag empty, remove, flip and reinsert and you have another 8 shots. Of course, they make blocks of 3 or 4 magazines stuck together like flip clips for the AR7, and someone on here or Ar15.com saw a guy on TV in South Africa with 8 FnFal magazines duct-taped into a giant flip clip stuck in his Fal.

Kharn

Kentucky Rifle · April 29, 2001, 11:14 AM

..but I didn't mount it. The Papoose has pretty good sights as it is. Lotta fun! When we go to the outdoor range, the first thing my wife picks up is the Papoose. She loves it. You should hear those Stingers go out. Sounds like bumble bees.
When I was looking for a rifle of this type (small, fun, easy to carry), my gunshop
recommended the Papoose above all others. Those Henrys fold up and everything fits in the stock, that's kinda neat but I liked the Papoose the best. Typical Marlin quality. Plenty of room in the nylon bag for a scope. The nylon carry-bag is thick, like a knife sheath, and there must be SOMETHING between the layers to make it float! It's probably about an eigth of an inch thick and closes with a zipper. The papoose is held in place inside the "pouch" with velcro straps. The barrel slides into a soft nylon tube. 3.5 lbs for everything. It's what I take camping, and I'm an old far...well, you know. All you have to do is take it out of it's pouch, screw on the barrel, pop in a mag, and you're in business! With the others, the action comes off too. I didn't like that. Too many parts that come off make for an inaccurate rifle.

Kentucky Rifle

Jeff Thomas · April 29, 2001, 11:18 AM

Thanks, KR. Glad you enjoy your rifle, and I appreciate your comments.

Regards from AZ

April 14, 2001, 11:21 AM	#1
swatman Senior Member Join Date: January 8, 2000 Location: Pa. USA Posts: 768	Just picked up a Charter arms AR-7 with two hi capacity Ram Line mags and one factory Mag. I think this is one of the cooler models since the stick is plastic and has two seperate slots, one that fits the barrel and one for the reciever built right into the stoch so you can take of the butt pad and insert both into the stock for storage. Got the whole setup and the hi cap mags for 75 bucks. I will let you know how it shoots I plan on shooting it today. __________________ "what gives a government that arms the whole world the right to disarm it's own citizens?" www.humanityonhold.com/intifada.html

April 14, 2001, 01:12 PM	#3
swatman Senior Member Join Date: January 8, 2000 Location: Pa. USA Posts: 768	an AR-7 is a survivalist rifle in .22 lr. It is a semi auto that has an unscrewable barrel and a reciever that can be easily remioved and it breaks down into 3 pieces and can be carried in a backpack for hiking trips, fishing or whatever. __________________ "what gives a government that arms the whole world the right to disarm it's own citizens?" www.humanityonhold.com/intifada.html

April 15, 2001, 10:26 AM	#7
swatman Senior Member Join Date: January 8, 2000 Location: Pa. USA Posts: 768	Well, shot it yesterday. It was pretty cool. The ram line clips hold 30 rounds and the factory mags hold 8. I like the way it shoots when you are firing rapidly, although one thing I found annoying was the rear peep site, it has a piece of flimsy metal behind it with a pin-sized whole too see through, I plan on enlarging it to make it easier to to see. Overal it makes for a good backpacking emrgency rifle or a good, inexpensive plinker. I was surprised that it was actually pretty accurate. Nothing to write home about, but not too bad either. One of the perks about buying this one was that it came with the hi cap mags which are pretty hard to find at least for me anyway. __________________ "what gives a government that arms the whole world the right to disarm it's own citizens?" www.humanityonhold.com/intifada.html

April 21, 2001, 09:08 AM	#10
swatman Senior Member Join Date: January 8, 2000 Location: Pa. USA Posts: 768	Yeah the idea of getting those two mags with it made me happy too. I have never really ever seen them although I havent really been looking either but I had yet to run across any of the ram line mags even at gun shows. __________________ "what gives a government that arms the whole world the right to disarm it's own citizens?" www.humanityonhold.com/intifada.html

April 27, 2001, 11:53 PM	#15
swatman Senior Member Join Date: January 8, 2000 Location: Pa. USA Posts: 768	What is a "flip clip"? it goes with that AR-20. Not sure what it is. __________________ "what gives a government that arms the whole world the right to disarm it's own citizens?" www.humanityonhold.com/intifada.html

April 14, 2001, 11:56 AM	#2
Jamie Young Senior Member Join Date: April 7, 2000 Location: SE/PA Posts: 4,834	What is an AR-7 ?

April 14, 2001, 01:55 PM	#4
Jamie Young Senior Member Join Date: April 7, 2000 Location: SE/PA Posts: 4,834	WOW thats actually pretty cool sounding. How many rounds do the mags hold?

April 14, 2001, 04:45 PM	#5
Bulldog Senior Member Join Date: February 22, 1999 Location: Texas Posts: 564	http://www.ar-7.com/ http://www.henryrepeating.com/survival.html

April 14, 2001, 05:22 PM	#6
Blue Duck357 Senior Member Join Date: October 6, 2000 Posts: 1,460	Had a cousin with one years ago that had an "annoying" habit of going full auto , alas he got it fixed as he should have. Fun gun to shoot, I liked the sights and break down capability a lot. Accuracy on the specimen I shot was nothing to write home about, but I think we were just shooting one load in it so maybe some experimentation was in order. You got a good buy, enjoy it. Regards,Blue Duck

April 16, 2001, 01:35 AM	#8
jimc Senior Member Join Date: February 15, 1999 Location: colo Posts: 378	i put a tasco pdp111 (1" tubed red dot) on an early ar-7. between the retractable stock, 30rd mag and red dot it looks like a gun that napolean solo used on the man from U.N.C.L.E. tv series. interesting little toys. i have a few of them. definetly give the red dot a try.

April 17, 2001, 01:31 AM	#9
taprackbang Junior Member Join Date: October 5, 1999 Posts: 9	the mags made that a super deal. I sold a couple of those mags last year for $75 each (NIW)

April 21, 2001, 09:52 PM	#11
dZ Senior Member Join Date: May 31, 1999 Location: Exiled, Fetid Swamp, DC Posts: 7,548	seen the tactical version? http://www.ar-7.com/rifles/rifles.html

April 22, 2001, 08:34 AM	#12
jimc Senior Member Join Date: February 15, 1999 Location: colo Posts: 378	yes i have one that looks like that, only the rear stock is collaspable. also i own a very early one. that one has a wire retractable stock as well as barrel has flash hider as part of the barrel.

April 22, 2001, 08:03 PM	#13
Jeff Thomas Senior Member Join Date: December 9, 1998 Location: Texas Posts: 4,753	Hmmm ... I always thought I'd buy a Springfield Amory M6 (see http://www.springfield-armory.com/pr...m6rifles.shtml ) Scout for such duty, but the AR-7 looks much more compact. Any ideas on: 1. Of the two AR-7's, is the Henry the best? 2. How does the AR-7 compare to the M6 Scout? Which do you prefer, and why? 3. Any other 'survival' rifles out there? Thanks for the interesting thread. Regards from AZ

April 27, 2001, 08:04 PM	#14
Jeff Thomas Senior Member Join Date: December 9, 1998 Location: Texas Posts: 4,753	BTT I'm really curious about these rifles. Any other folks with opinions / info on these handly truck / survival guns? Thanks. Regards from AZ

April 28, 2001, 05:08 PM	#16
Kentucky Rifle Senior Member Join Date: July 5, 1999 Location: Louisville, Kentucky Posts: 2,687	I have a Marlin "Papoose" Basically an AR-7, only with a stainless barrel and stainless other goodies. Black synthetic stock. Fits nicely in a cordura nylon pouch that floats. 3.5 pounds. The mags are chrome. Fits right behind the seats of my truck or even in the trunk of my Honda Pacific Coast. Lots of smiles. Pull over, screw the barrel on, load the mags with Stingers, and spend some quality time with your rifle for less than $5.00. (And that's if you shoot 100 rounds!) Kentucky Rifle

April 29, 2001, 01:07 AM	#17
Jeff Thomas Senior Member Join Date: December 9, 1998 Location: Texas Posts: 4,753	Thanks, Kentucky Rifle. I noted that 'Boston's Gun Bible' also speaks highly of the Papoose. Regards from AZ

April 29, 2001, 02:01 AM	#18
Pvt. Joker Senior Member Join Date: November 12, 2000 Posts: 123	Papoose Whats a Papoose go for? -Jared

April 29, 2001, 10:36 AM	#19
Jeff Thomas Senior Member Join Date: December 9, 1998 Location: Texas Posts: 4,753	My gun store said $210. The going price on the auction sites seems to be $175 to $200, so considering FFL fees, it looks like you might as well special order it from your favorite FFL. I've been thinking about a rifle for the truck, and the Papoose looks like a good option. Frankly, some folks are saying it is of higher quality than the alternatives. Apparently it needs optics. Kentucky Rifle, will you be mounting a scope on yours? Picked a model yet? I wonder how much room is in that storage bag ... will the bag accomodate the rifle as well as a mounted scope? Regards from AZ

April 29, 2001, 10:52 AM	#20
Kharn Senior Member Join Date: January 8, 2001 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,531	The flip clip is two magazines attached at or near the baseplates, with the feed lips facing away from each other. So, you shoot one mag empty, remove, flip and reinsert and you have another 8 shots. Of course, they make blocks of 3 or 4 magazines stuck together like flip clips for the AR7, and someone on here or Ar15.com saw a guy on TV in South Africa with 8 FnFal magazines duct-taped into a giant flip clip stuck in his Fal. Kharn

April 29, 2001, 11:14 AM	#21
Kentucky Rifle Senior Member Join Date: July 5, 1999 Location: Louisville, Kentucky Posts: 2,687	I bought a "Red Dot"... ..but I didn't mount it. The Papoose has pretty good sights as it is. Lotta fun! When we go to the outdoor range, the first thing my wife picks up is the Papoose. She loves it. You should hear those Stingers go out. Sounds like bumble bees. When I was looking for a rifle of this type (small, fun, easy to carry), my gunshop recommended the Papoose above all others. Those Henrys fold up and everything fits in the stock, that's kinda neat but I liked the Papoose the best. Typical Marlin quality. Plenty of room in the nylon bag for a scope. The nylon carry-bag is thick, like a knife sheath, and there must be SOMETHING between the layers to make it float! It's probably about an eigth of an inch thick and closes with a zipper. The papoose is held in place inside the "pouch" with velcro straps. The barrel slides into a soft nylon tube. 3.5 lbs for everything. It's what I take camping, and I'm an old far...well, you know. All you have to do is take it out of it's pouch, screw on the barrel, pop in a mag, and you're in business! With the others, the action comes off too. I didn't like that. Too many parts that come off make for an inaccurate rifle. Kentucky Rifle

April 29, 2001, 11:18 AM	#22
Jeff Thomas Senior Member Join Date: December 9, 1998 Location: Texas Posts: 4,753	Thanks, KR. Glad you enjoy your rifle, and I appreciate your comments. Regards from AZ