Had to loan out my pepper spray

chris in va · May 17, 2007, 01:19 AM

Friend of mine at work was talking about a guy loafing around her car before she got ready for work at 5pm. Long story short, he asked her all kinds of questions, making her feel very uncomfortable...even stating he would be at her place when she got off work at 130am.

So she gets my OC for a day. I offered to escort her home, but apparently a friend and her dad will do that duty tonight. Should be interesting the stories tomorrow!

Doggieman · May 17, 2007, 02:10 AM

I have a bunch of mace/OC sprays.. any time a chick needs one I just give it to her. You can buy a new one for $8 or so, might as well. I think mace/OC is underrated, especially on these boards, for self protection.

TwoXForr · May 17, 2007, 08:45 AM

I think OC is a lesser option especially compared to Pepper Spray, I would take a hit of OC any day of the week and twice on Sunday instead of Pepper Spray. (Of course it also matters what dosage and type of Pepper spray it is)

kkb · May 17, 2007, 09:12 AM

Not meaning to hijack the thread. What is the shelf life of an unused can of OC, i.e. how long will it stay potent?

9mmHP · May 17, 2007, 10:01 AM

TwoXForr, am I missing something? OC, Oleoresin Capsicum, is pepper spray, right? Are you thinking CN, chloroacetophenone, or CS (from "Carson and Staughton," the inventors, or 2-chlorobenzalmalononitrile) perhaps?

TwoXForr · May 17, 2007, 11:45 AM

You are right, my mind was thinking Tear Gas, and my hands were saying OC.

spacemanspiff · May 17, 2007, 12:31 PM

Sabre Red is the best stuff I've seen used.

Doggieman · May 17, 2007, 10:00 PM

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What is the shelf life of an unused can of OC, i.e. how long will it stay potent?

Most have expiration dates between 3 and 6 years.. whether they're still good beyond that date, I dunno. I'd replace 'em at the expiration date.

Doggieman · May 17, 2007, 10:06 PM

Sabre (not Sabre-Red) has CS tear gas (what I call 'Mace,' though not really the right term) in addition to OC. OC causes more pain but CS causes panic and nausea, at least for me. I've gotten OC in my eye and it was like having a sliver of glass in there... terrible. But the fumes from the CS making me nauseated and panicky is just as bad. I can't imagine what both would be like, which is why I choose Sabre, which has both. OC would make me want to stop what I'm doing, CS makes me want to leave the area ASAP. To have it on one's face and shirt would be a horrible experience.

parrothead2581 · May 17, 2007, 10:30 PM

Having experienced the pain of it in police academy, I'll vouch for First Defense brand OC. 10% OC was what I was hit with and won't choose anything less than that.

Keep in mind it can take up to 10 seconds to really take effect. Have a plan for the interim.

OC is not likely to stop a goal oriented individual. I ran through the academy course like lightning but hit my knees as soon as it was completed. Then again, I knew it was coming. If presented properly, the BG won't.

The expiration date is for the propellant, not the OC.

I too believe OC is underrated and undervalued.

RedneckFur · May 19, 2007, 12:58 AM

When i worked in the rocky mtns, I was given a can of bear spray. (its a special blend for fending off bear attacks) I had the unfortunate luck of experiencing some slight overspray from this stuff, while standing upwind of somone test firing a can.... That stuff is vile. I wasnt directly hit, but i was blinded, almost stopped breathing, and seconds after being exposed, i was vomiting. I'd hate to see what a direct hit would do to a person.

I've still got my can, and I keep it in the truck, should the need for it arise.

May 17, 2007, 01:19 AM	#1
chris in va Senior Member Join Date: December 26, 2004 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 13,806	Had to loan out my pepper spray Friend of mine at work was talking about a guy loafing around her car before she got ready for work at 5pm. Long story short, he asked her all kinds of questions, making her feel very uncomfortable...even stating he would be at her place when she got off work at 130am. So she gets my OC for a day. I offered to escort her home, but apparently a friend and her dad will do that duty tonight. Should be interesting the stories tomorrow!

May 17, 2007, 08:45 AM	#3
TwoXForr Senior Member Join Date: March 26, 2007 Location: PA Posts: 464	I think OC is a lesser option especially compared to Pepper Spray, I would take a hit of OC any day of the week and twice on Sunday instead of Pepper Spray. (Of course it also matters what dosage and type of Pepper spray it is) __________________ All America lies at the end of the wilderness road, and our past is not a dead past, but still lives in us. Our forefathers had civilization inside themselves, the wild outside. We live in the civilization they created, but within us the wilderness still lingers. What they dreamed, we live, and what they lived, we dream.

May 17, 2007, 11:45 AM	#6
TwoXForr Senior Member Join Date: March 26, 2007 Location: PA Posts: 464	You are right, my mind was thinking Tear Gas, and my hands were saying OC. __________________ All America lies at the end of the wilderness road, and our past is not a dead past, but still lives in us. Our forefathers had civilization inside themselves, the wild outside. We live in the civilization they created, but within us the wilderness still lingers. What they dreamed, we live, and what they lived, we dream.

May 17, 2007, 12:31 PM	#7
spacemanspiff Senior Member Join Date: January 16, 2002 Location: alaska Posts: 3,498	Sabre Red is the best stuff I've seen used. __________________ "Every man alone is sincere; at the entrance of a second person hypocrisy begins." - Ralph Waldo Emerson "People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought which they seldom use." - Soren Kierkegaard

May 17, 2007, 10:30 PM	#10
parrothead2581 Senior Member Join Date: August 4, 2005 Posts: 1,268	Having experienced the pain of it in police academy, I'll vouch for First Defense brand OC. 10% OC was what I was hit with and won't choose anything less than that. Keep in mind it can take up to 10 seconds to really take effect. Have a plan for the interim. OC is not likely to stop a goal oriented individual. I ran through the academy course like lightning but hit my knees as soon as it was completed. Then again, I knew it was coming. If presented properly, the BG won't. The expiration date is for the propellant, not the OC. I too believe OC is underrated and undervalued. __________________ But I am like a green olive tree in the house of God: I trust in the mercy of God for ever and ever. Psalm 52:8

May 17, 2007, 02:10 AM	#2
Doggieman Senior Member Join Date: April 19, 2006 Location: San Diego, Calif. Posts: 717	I have a bunch of mace/OC sprays.. any time a chick needs one I just give it to her. You can buy a new one for $8 or so, might as well. I think mace/OC is underrated, especially on these boards, for self protection.

May 17, 2007, 09:12 AM	#4
kkb Senior Member Join Date: September 5, 2004 Location: Western Slope, Colorado Posts: 403	Not meaning to hijack the thread. What is the shelf life of an unused can of OC, i.e. how long will it stay potent?

May 17, 2007, 10:01 AM	#5
9mmHP Senior Member Join Date: February 14, 2007 Location: Indiana/Indpls Metro Area Posts: 318	TwoXForr, am I missing something? OC, Oleoresin Capsicum, is pepper spray, right? Are you thinking CN, chloroacetophenone, or CS (from "Carson and Staughton," the inventors, or 2-chlorobenzalmalononitrile) perhaps?

May 17, 2007, 10:06 PM	#9
Doggieman Senior Member Join Date: April 19, 2006 Location: San Diego, Calif. Posts: 717	Sabre (not Sabre-Red) has CS tear gas (what I call 'Mace,' though not really the right term) in addition to OC. OC causes more pain but CS causes panic and nausea, at least for me. I've gotten OC in my eye and it was like having a sliver of glass in there... terrible. But the fumes from the CS making me nauseated and panicky is just as bad. I can't imagine what both would be like, which is why I choose Sabre, which has both. OC would make me want to stop what I'm doing, CS makes me want to leave the area ASAP. To have it on one's face and shirt would be a horrible experience.

May 19, 2007, 12:58 AM	#11
RedneckFur Senior Member Join Date: January 14, 2007 Location: Central NC Posts: 1,424	When i worked in the rocky mtns, I was given a can of bear spray. (its a special blend for fending off bear attacks) I had the unfortunate luck of experiencing some slight overspray from this stuff, while standing upwind of somone test firing a can.... That stuff is vile. I wasnt directly hit, but i was blinded, almost stopped breathing, and seconds after being exposed, i was vomiting. I'd hate to see what a direct hit would do to a person. I've still got my can, and I keep it in the truck, should the need for it arise.