Smallest 22lr auto?

Dashunde · October 22, 2012, 11:55 AM

I picked up one of those neat little NAA 22lr pistols a few weeks ago and started wondering if there is a (good quality) tiny 22 auto that I havent come across yet?
I'm hoping for around 4 inches, 4 ounces, and pancake thin...?

aarondhgraham · October 22, 2012, 01:09 PM

This one isn't exactly thin,,,
But it meets your other requirements.

Click here please.

It has performed perfectly with CCI Mini-Mags,,,
I've had mine for almost two years,,,
I shoot the heck out of this gun.

It's $3.00 cheaper now than it was then.

Aarond

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PSP · October 22, 2012, 01:36 PM

Four ounces!! A bit on the light side. The closest you may come to tiny is a PSP but they're all in .25acp. Not in production but the tiny TPH is easy to find.

Dashunde · October 22, 2012, 03:38 PM

It would appear the best I'm going to do is a Iver Johnson, Walther TPH ($$) or the Beretta 21.

I dont think 4-5 ounces would be that hard to hit, heck the cylinder of the NAA is nearly 2 of its 4.5 ounces.
I'd really love a 6+1 22lr auto that would fit (mostly) into my Levis' change pocket like this little NAA does.

I think its one of those "build it and they will buy" things.. I mean who would have really thought the NAA revolver would be so popular?

A tiny LCP with a DA/SA trigger and safety would be just excellent

blackamos · October 22, 2012, 03:55 PM

If weight is the biggest factor the Kel Tec p32 comes in at 6.6 oz unloaded http://www.keltecweapons.com/our-guns/pistols/p-32/

chris in va · October 22, 2012, 10:43 PM

That Taurus P22 is pretty darn tiny. Darn unreliable too.

Redhawk5.5+P+ · October 23, 2012, 03:36 AM

Boring, nap time.

aarondhgraham · October 23, 2012, 08:07 AM

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That Taurus P22 is pretty darn tiny. Darn unreliable too.

Not mine.

The Taurus PT-22 is the metal frame copy of the Beretta,,,
It never had a good reputation at all.

Mine is the 22-PLY,,,
That's the polymer version of the gun,,,
I know it says PT-22 on the slide but it's actually a 22-PLY.

Mine has been absolutely reliable with CCI Mini Mag ammo,,,
I shoot the dang thing every time I go to the range,,,
I'm not saying it's the perfect carry handgun,,,
I am saying mine is very reliable for a .22.

I believe cheapshooter is getting the same results with his.

Aarond

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lapetrarca53 · October 23, 2012, 09:04 AM

My Phoenix Arms HP22A has been a fun little gun to shoot as well. There's even a range kit for it with an extended barrel.

micromontenegro · October 23, 2012, 09:52 AM

I think the smallest .22 auto is the Bernardelli Baby:

http://www.gunauction.com/search/dis...temnum=9191976

The catch is that you can have it in .22 short and long, but not LR

Edited to add: oops, I didn't read the "still in production" part. Sorry.

Dashunde · October 23, 2012, 12:20 PM

^ Thats pretty close to what I have in mind.

It doesnt need to still be in production, silly expectation on my part, readily available is just fine.

carguychris · October 23, 2012, 01:54 PM

If it doesn't have to be in production anymore, Iver Johnson used to offer a near-copy of the Walther TPH- the TP22.

The good news is that the TP22 is substantially less expensive than the TPH, but the bad news is that you get what you pay for. The TP22 has a reputation for being one of those pistols that works great until it doesn't; the frame is zinc alloy, and once it cracks, the pistol is history.

FlySubCompact · October 23, 2012, 01:57 PM

Dashunde,

Though no where near as tiny as the little NAA revolvers I have owned the Beretta 21 and a Phoenix 22A. Both are currently made.

I sold the Beretta and later bought the Phoenix as a trial replacement. The pot metal Phoenix has been a lot more reliable....once I broke it in with a few hundred rounds. The Phoenix just runs better. Jams are a lot rarer with it.

aarondhgraham · October 23, 2012, 02:54 PM

I shot one of these a few years back,,,
It belonged to a lady I was dating,,,
I tried to buy it but to no avail.

She always wore a blazer jacket,,,
Her escort lived in the pocket.

Cute little gun,,,
It actually shot very well.

Click here please.

Aarond

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Catbird · October 23, 2012, 06:17 PM

Regarding the S&W model 61 Escort, here's mine that I bought new back in the early 1970s (and still have it) -

PSP · October 23, 2012, 06:44 PM

Quote:

Iver Johnson used to offer a near-copy of the Walther TPH- the TP22.

Not exactly a copy, but similar. The TPH is very much the superior pistol.

Redhawk5.5+P+ · October 26, 2012, 01:12 AM

Quote:

Regarding the S&W model 61 Escort, here's mine that I bought new back in the early 1970s (and still have it) -

I've never seen or knew about that gun. I LIKE IT, alot!! It reminds me of my chromed Baby Browning with pearl handles, no pic for now.

PS, I stole your picture.

I own a Beretta A21 Bobcat, I love it, and love to shoot it alot.

franco45 · October 26, 2012, 10:20 PM

Quote:

I am saying mine is very reliable for a .22.

I believe cheapshooter is getting the same results with his.

My Taurus Ply 22 is also very reliable. I have shot about 600 rounds of CCI Minimags, CCI Velocitors, CCI Stingers and Federal bulk pack through it. I have had no malfunctions at all. I had a PT 22 a few years ago that I got rid of for unreliability issues.

October 22, 2012, 11:55 AM	#1
Dashunde Senior Member Join Date: December 22, 2004 Posts: 2,018	Smallest 22lr auto? I picked up one of those neat little NAA 22lr pistols a few weeks ago and started wondering if there is a (good quality) tiny 22 auto that I havent come across yet? I'm hoping for around 4 inches, 4 ounces, and pancake thin...? Last edited by Dashunde; October 26, 2012 at 07:13 AM.

October 22, 2012, 01:09 PM	#2
aarondhgraham Senior Member Join Date: December 1, 2009 Location: Stillwater, OKlahoma Posts: 8,638	This one isn't exactly thin,,, This one isn't exactly thin,,, But it meets your other requirements. Click here please. It has performed perfectly with CCI Mini-Mags,,, I've had mine for almost two years,,, I shoot the heck out of this gun. It's $3.00 cheaper now than it was then. Aarond . __________________ Never ever give an enemy the advantage of a verbal threat. Caje: The coward dies a thousand times, the brave only once. Kirby: That's about all it takes, ain't it? Aarond is good,,, Aarond is wise,,, Always trust Aarond! (most of the time)

October 22, 2012, 03:55 PM	#5
blackamos Senior Member Join Date: August 19, 2000 Location: Michigan Posts: 580	If weight is the biggest factor the Kel Tec p32 comes in at 6.6 oz unloaded http://www.keltecweapons.com/our-guns/pistols/p-32/ __________________ Know of that you speak, Amos

October 23, 2012, 01:54 PM	#12
carguychris Senior Member Join Date: October 20, 2007 Location: Richardson, TX Posts: 7,523	TPH vs. TP22... If it doesn't have to be in production anymore, Iver Johnson used to offer a near-copy of the Walther TPH- the TP22. The good news is that the TP22 is substantially less expensive than the TPH, but the bad news is that you get what you pay for. The TP22 has a reputation for being one of those pistols that works great until it doesn't; the frame is zinc alloy, and once it cracks, the pistol is history. __________________ "Smokey, this is not 'Nam. This is bowling. There are rules... MARK IT ZERO!!" - Walter Sobchak

October 23, 2012, 02:54 PM	#14
aarondhgraham Senior Member Join Date: December 1, 2009 Location: Stillwater, OKlahoma Posts: 8,638	Five hours left on this auction for a S&W Model 61-3 Escort. I shot one of these a few years back,,, It belonged to a lady I was dating,,, I tried to buy it but to no avail. She always wore a blazer jacket,,, Her escort lived in the pocket. Cute little gun,,, It actually shot very well. Click here please. Aarond . __________________ Never ever give an enemy the advantage of a verbal threat. Caje: The coward dies a thousand times, the brave only once. Kirby: That's about all it takes, ain't it? Aarond is good,,, Aarond is wise,,, Always trust Aarond! (most of the time)

October 22, 2012, 01:36 PM	#3
PSP Senior Member Join Date: June 2, 2006 Location: Bowling Green Virginia Posts: 4,487	Four ounces!! A bit on the light side. The closest you may come to tiny is a PSP but they're all in .25acp. Not in production but the tiny TPH is easy to find.

October 22, 2012, 03:38 PM	#4
Dashunde Senior Member Join Date: December 22, 2004 Posts: 2,018	It would appear the best I'm going to do is a Iver Johnson, Walther TPH ($$) or the Beretta 21. I dont think 4-5 ounces would be that hard to hit, heck the cylinder of the NAA is nearly 2 of its 4.5 ounces. I'd really love a 6+1 22lr auto that would fit (mostly) into my Levis' change pocket like this little NAA does. I think its one of those "build it and they will buy" things.. I mean who would have really thought the NAA revolver would be so popular? A tiny LCP with a DA/SA trigger and safety would be just excellent

October 22, 2012, 10:43 PM	#6
chris in va Senior Member Join Date: December 26, 2004 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 13,806	That Taurus P22 is pretty darn tiny. Darn unreliable too.

October 23, 2012, 03:36 AM	#7
Redhawk5.5+P+ Senior Member Join Date: June 4, 2012 Location: NV Posts: 743	Boring, nap time.

October 23, 2012, 09:04 AM	#9
lapetrarca53 Senior Member Join Date: September 10, 2012 Posts: 108	My Phoenix Arms HP22A has been a fun little gun to shoot as well. There's even a range kit for it with an extended barrel.

October 23, 2012, 09:52 AM	#10
micromontenegro Senior Member Join Date: December 28, 2010 Posts: 647	I think the smallest .22 auto is the Bernardelli Baby: http://www.gunauction.com/search/dis...temnum=9191976 The catch is that you can have it in .22 short and long, but not LR Edited to add: oops, I didn't read the "still in production" part. Sorry.

October 23, 2012, 12:20 PM	#11
Dashunde Senior Member Join Date: December 22, 2004 Posts: 2,018	^ Thats pretty close to what I have in mind. It doesnt need to still be in production, silly expectation on my part, readily available is just fine.

October 23, 2012, 01:57 PM	#13
FlySubCompact Senior Member Join Date: February 16, 2012 Posts: 306	Dashunde, Though no where near as tiny as the little NAA revolvers I have owned the Beretta 21 and a Phoenix 22A. Both are currently made. I sold the Beretta and later bought the Phoenix as a trial replacement. The pot metal Phoenix has been a lot more reliable....once I broke it in with a few hundred rounds. The Phoenix just runs better. Jams are a lot rarer with it.

October 23, 2012, 06:17 PM	#15
Catbird Senior Member Join Date: July 17, 2001 Location: V I R G I N I A Posts: 318	Regarding the S&W model 61 Escort, here's mine that I bought new back in the early 1970s (and still have it) - __________________ ONE NATION UNDER GOD