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February 4, 2013, 04:20 PM | #1 |
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Colt Model 1908 Pocket Hammerless .380 ACP
I have come across a Colt Model 1908 Pocket Hammerless .380 ACP. The hard rubber stocks are broken, the left one missing nearly 1/3 of its upper portion. Does anyone know ofa place that sells stocks for these nifty little 380's? Also, I would like to get an extra mag or two. Where can they be found? Thanks.
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February 4, 2013, 09:40 PM | #2 |
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Check out Vintage Gun Grips ( http://www.vintagegungrips.net/colt-...uttplates.html )for the grips. Last time I checked, Triple K makes magazines http://www.triplek.com/Products/id/38/grp/412/prd/608/ .
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February 4, 2013, 09:51 PM | #3 |
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I can vouch for the ones from Vintage Grips. I acquired a set for one of my 1903s. Side by side, I could not tell the difference from the originals except for the newness of the Vintage Grips. I also recently acquired a set of wood Ortgies grips from them, I was very impressed by the quality and will give then a two thumbs up.
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February 4, 2013, 11:48 PM | #5 |
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I'll pretty much say the same for www.gungrip.com , so at least you have a choice. I don't know where Numrich gets theirs, but some are good, then it seems others are not.'
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There is a difference in the magazines (rounded or straight top) depending on whether the gun was made before or after 1926, so it helps to know what you need. www.coltautos.com is an excellent resource. Here's a pic of both of my Model 1908 guns - Last edited by spacecoast; February 5, 2013 at 07:01 AM. |
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Thanks fellas. I am looking at the suggested sites as we speak. Appriciated.
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OK, Now I'm confused. I was under the impression that my gun was a 1908, but looking at the grips on these web sites, the matching ones are listed as 1903 grips? What gives?
I can't post a picture today, but I will get one up tomorrow. thanks.
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February 5, 2013, 11:25 AM | #9 |
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The 1908/1903 are dimentionally the same, except for caliber.
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Ah! Great answer! Thanks.
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February 5, 2013, 08:36 PM | #11 |
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The grips are the same size for both the .32 and .380, but the guns are not the same. The early .380's have a larger magazine well and the .380 magazine won't fit in the .32 pistol. There are other differences, mainly the extractor. Unmarked original magazines are from the 1903-1908 period when there was only one caliber. After that, the magazines are marked with the caliber on the base plate.
The grip pattern was changed over time, so if possible get the style appropriate to the era of the gun. If you have enough of the original grips to determine that, fine. If not, check back and we will try to help you. Jim |
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The gun I showed above is from 1922, with proper grips. The one below is from 1910, also with correct grips. Later they went to plainer grips from a different material with a Colt medallion I believe. coltautos.com will show you which is correct depending on your serial number.
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This gun is serial #24xxx. It has grips like your 1922 gun, with the COLT in an oval, not the starburst pattern.
Your gun is in much better shape than mine. I took it apart and cleaned/oiled it with Hoppes #9 and CLP last night. The barrel is a bit pitted, but cleaned up pretty nicely. The left side of the frame and the slide are rusty and pitted. I think I got most of the rust wiped and oiled. Any other suggestions to stop/reverse the rust? The gun seems to function ok, I haven't shot it, as I need a magazine. It didn't come with one. My FIL gave it to me, so it didn't cost anything. Just a cool old gun that I would like to get back into service. I can't post any pictures yet, because my dishnet satellite internet is at my upload limit for the month! (Daughters and smart phones are killing this redneck's internet gun fun!)
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24xxx would put it at 1915 and the grips are correct (though broken). I believe any type grips for the 1908 will fit if you don't want to put a lot of money into them.
I don't have any particular advice on the rust other than maybe to hit the rough spots with a little fine steel wool to smooth them down and then keep it well oiled. I hope the gun works well for you, mine is a delightful shooter and quite accurate with mild handloads. The frame and slide both have serial numbers that should match as these guns were hand-fitted. |
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I have ordered several magazines from Numrich for mine. They are aftermarket but I have had good success with both the .32 and .380 mags.
They are not marked with a manufacturer so I'm not sure who made them. I have not checked lately to see if they have any in stock. They are also NOT cheap. (but, since the gun was free, you may not mind) And, on the .32 I had to file a couple of thousanths off of the base to get them to fit -Rodger |
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Thanks for the help. If you don't mind, could you look at this link from Tripple K and let me know if this is the correct magazine? I just want to order the correct one the first time. Thanks again.
http://www.triplek.com/Products/id/38/grp/412/prd/573/
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That is definitely NOT the correct magazine. You want .380 Auto (or .380 ACP), the .38 Auto is a different round entirely, and the gun is quite a bit larger I believe.
I don't see any on Gunbroker at the moment, but this page at Triple K appears to be the correct magazine - http://www.triplek.com/Products/id/38/grp/412/prd/608/ I could use a second mag for mine, I might order one myself. Last edited by spacecoast; February 6, 2013 at 01:45 PM. |
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Thanks. Got the correct one ordered. Appriciation to everyone for the help.
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You're very welcome, I'll be interested in seeing how the Triple K mag works in mine as well. $34 is a lot better than $125 (or more) for an original mag.
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Here it is. Just received notice that the new grips have shipped. No word on the mag, yet.
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Gorgeous!!
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Wyoredman -
Not bad at all, especially considering its age, and it's more a lack of bluing on the left side than rust, and won't affect function at all. Should be a lot of fun to shoot. Do you reload by any chance? Your gun will handle today's commercial loads without a problem, but I like to baby mine with mild handloads that still cycle just fine and put a little less stress on the recoil spring/frame etc. I had a light strike problem with my smaller pistol (the .25 ACP Vest Pocket shown in my first post) that was cured with a replacement firing pin spring. |
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Thanks guys.
I do reload, but don't have .380 ACP dies. I plan on posting pics when I get the new grips installed and pics of this old gun at the range when the magazine shows up!
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Received the grips and the magazine today. The grips are going to need a bit of fitting, as the two escuchions (washer and nut) are not alowing the grip screw to line up correctly when the new grips are snapped into place. It doesn't look too complicated, but I will post pictures when I get them installed. Yeah!
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Sounds good, I also ordered a magazine, received it and it appears to be a perfect match. I'll be shooting the gun in a couple of weeks to make sure.
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