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January 15, 2013, 01:32 PM | #101 | |
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Brian, I hope more people write the same, and I hope it gets read and considered by the politicians in New York.
However, the momentum is there in the legislature, and in the governor's office. It may take a court challenge to kill this. Quote:
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To paraphrase, the current guy (D from Westchester county) talking says he talks to constituents who tell him that all they want is "one gun and one bullet" with which to defend themselves while they call the police. |
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January 15, 2013, 01:55 PM | #104 |
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Prime reason why magazine capacity limits are stupid: 3d printing.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygree...osed-gun-laws/ All you need is a spring, basically.
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January 15, 2013, 01:59 PM | #105 |
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I live in NY. Misery loves company. Obama is preparing 19 presidential executive orders that apply on the federal level and which will mimic the new NY law.
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Sad day here in NY. The 19 executive order thing is all over the place too.
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January 15, 2013, 02:11 PM | #108 |
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Watching the debate....what a circus. So far I have heard proposed violation of the 2nd Amendment and 4th Amendment.
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Note: we will not discuss executive orders here and the subject has been fully discussed in this thread, this thread, and this thread. If you don't understand why the President can't by executive order mimic the New York law, read those threads. If you don't understand after reading those threads, we can't help. Quote:
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Edit: Apologies Frank I must have been writing when you posted.
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January 15, 2013, 02:37 PM | #112 |
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Im from NY and I can't tell you how sick i feel. I never thought I would ever see this, even my ultra liberal state of NY. Im not exagerating when I say I feel like I've lost my sense of freedom. I would love to leave here, but my job is here and finding a new one in this economy would be difficult.
I hope and pray this doesn't happen to you guys in other states, not only to protect your freedoms, but to know that there are other places I can go and be free when circumstances allow. |
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AS - you're missing the point...
The point is, this bill has already said those two have the authority & the bill breezed through the Senate 43-18. Unless a miracle of Biblical proportions takes place today, the Assembly will pass the bill. That only leaves it up to Cuomo to sign it. It's as much as a done deal. |
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January 15, 2013, 02:49 PM | #115 |
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Sucks to live in NY...
I wonder what the face to face ammo sales, background check and bulk purchase reporting would do to the current ammo shortage? |
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Ok. So I missed it the first time around, not that I can get any more nauseated, but according to the Washington post, gun stores have to run background checks for ammo sales and maintain a database of ammo sales.
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@ Progress, I don't see any mention of grandfathering for magazines that hold more than 10 rounds. The law says..
"Magazines with a capacity of more than 10 rounds and manufactured before 1994, which are currently legal, would have to be turned over to authorities or sold out of state within one year. If a magazine has a capacity between eight and 10, it would have to be retrofitted to only hold seven rounds." bubsy |
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This is exactly why I say the SCOTUS (forgive me for the yell) MUST do some sort of enforced injunction against the State and the City of NY. There seems to be a palpable defiance of court ruling after court ruling. Short of enforcement by the court, I have no idea when this city or state will ever obey a ruling they don't like on this issue... They will knowingly pass unconstitutional law after unconstitutional law with malice of forethought.
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I live in NY and am horrified. The senate here is the only block to this nonsense and they ran this through late at night with nobody knowing about it until it was too late. The assembly and governor are just formalities. Not a single email or Facebook alert from the NRA to let us know.
Heller stated that banning handguns wa not allowed as they were a weapon in general/common use. NY just rendered the majority of handguns and semi auto rifles useless by banning the ability to use them. This needs to be hallemged and crushed immediately. The rest of the nation may now thank us New Yorkers. Cuomo's dreams of the presidency just died along with our freedom in this state. I am sick to my stomach.
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Well it passed! WOW! Just more of the same.
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I wonder if the NY lawmakers have heard the old adage about being careful what you wish for? I can see the last legal gun owner in NY twenty years from. His final words: "It was a magazine dammit...."
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