Fox News goes to Gunsite Academy

jimpeel · May 1, 2013, 10:32 AM

Fox News reporter Katie Pavlich went to Gunsite for a week-long training session. The report from her experience is here: VIDEO LINK

It was an overall good report and covered the full range of defensive firearms use with interviews with students and the owner.

It did not cover the costs involved for the course which would have been informative.

She went through the entire course with various long and short firearms and interior and exterior scenarios. Gave a good insight into the course.

Madcap_Magician · May 1, 2013, 11:46 AM

I don't have the money or the time to get to Gunsite, but does anyone know what the deal is with those goofy targets they were shooting at, the ones that look ? What's the theory and practical use for them?

As an aside... I would be lying if I said my heart didn't skip a beat every time I saw Katie Pavlich.

Gaerek · May 1, 2013, 11:49 AM

I'm not 100% sure, but I think they're supposed to break up the outline of the "scoring rings" so that you're not using them as a reference, and instead truly shooting "center mass."

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Also, I will go to Gunsite one day. It's only a 3-4 hour drive from where I am. I just need the time/money. Eventually...

jimpeel · May 1, 2013, 01:27 PM

Time & money; every man's enemy. There is never enough of either.

**Spats McGee** · May 1, 2013, 02:22 PM

Those are Holstein targets.

KyJim · May 1, 2013, 02:40 PM

The video link has been removed.

Edit: Works now.

**Spats McGee** · May 1, 2013, 02:46 PM

Still works for me. Are you waiting for the ad to finish running?

BarryLee · May 1, 2013, 02:49 PM

Yes, that is a nice story and who wouldn’t want to spend a week out there. I wish stories like this could get some more main stream exposure since I doubt many anti-gun types watch much Hannity.

Wyoredman · May 1, 2013, 02:51 PM

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I would be lying if I said my heart didn't skip a beat every time I saw Katie Pavlich.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

Excellent job, Ms. Pavlich!

Kimio · May 1, 2013, 02:58 PM

Sadly, that won't happen with the way the current administration works and how current MSM, views gun owners let alone the topic of guns in general (FOX is the very rare exception to this or so it seems)

Great stuff, usually a real treat to find something like this being put up in the news, a major new provider no less (Then again, it's Fox, kind of to be expected)

KyJim · May 1, 2013, 03:21 PM

Working now. Must have been a temporary glitch.

**Frank Ettin** · May 1, 2013, 10:53 PM

Great story, and Gunsite is well worth the time and the money. I've been three times.

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Originally Posted by Gaerek

...I'm not 100% sure, but I think they're supposed to break up the outline of the "scoring rings" so that you're not using them as a reference, and instead truly shooting "center mass."...

Correct.

kraigwy · May 1, 2013, 11:35 PM

Good honest report. I like Katie's response to the AR not being useful.

Only thing different I would like to have seen is Katie, being petite, comparing Uncle Joe's shot gun to the AR for ease of use.

jimpeel · May 2, 2013, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Spats McGee

Those are Holstein targets.

Holy cow!

22-rimfire · May 2, 2013, 01:33 PM

Saw that when it aired. I think they did a pretty good job and Katie seems nice and likeable.

Gaerek · May 2, 2013, 02:11 PM

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Those are Holstein targets.

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Holy cow!

You guys are udderly ridiculous.

(Sorry, couldn't resist.)

**Frank Ettin** · May 2, 2013, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Gaerek

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Those are Holstein targets.

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Holy cow!

You guys are udderly ridiculous.

I'm sorely tempted to give you an infraction for trying to milk a bad joke.

Kimio · May 2, 2013, 02:30 PM

I'd say "don't have a cow about it" but I don't want to get banned...oh wait

Gaerek · May 2, 2013, 03:31 PM

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I'm sorely tempted to give you an infraction for trying to milk a bad joke.

Hey, it's not against the forum rules...so just mooooove along.

Microgunner · May 2, 2013, 03:33 PM

beat me to it.

Kimio · May 2, 2013, 03:39 PM

Better start hoofing it then

**Frank Ettin** · May 2, 2013, 06:59 PM

And now I'll be a spoil sport. We've had some fun with this, but I'd now like to see what others have to say about the actual story.

For example, I appreciated that the film showed some of the exercises done in the class.

What did folks think about the speed exercises (called school drills at Gunsite)?

How about the shoot house and outside simulator exercises? Did watching pique anyone's interest. Would anyone not want to go through something like that with a qualified instructor?

Who has done some night shooting?

So let's put the cows back in the barn and hear some thoughts on Gunsite, Katie Pavlich's story and her experience.

BTW, Dave Starin (in the video) was one of the instructors when I took the Intermediate Handgun class (350) at Gunsite a couple of years ago.

kennethlee · May 2, 2013, 07:14 PM

Actually, my best takeaway was the nurse who didn't shoot until four years ago. She had a lot of good things to say about knowing guns and how they work make them safer. My wife doesn't like guns and thinks she will never shoot. I'm going to show her this video.

kennethlee · May 2, 2013, 07:17 PM

And yeah, I'd love to spend a week at Gunsite Frank. Those are the kind of drills we all need to practice on a regular basis. To be immersed for a full week must be wonderful!

Madcap_Magician · May 3, 2013, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by 22-rimfire

Saw that when it aired. I think they did a pretty good job and Katie seems nice and likeable.

Katie Pavlich was also the big driver behind the Fast and Furious expose and wrote a NYT-bestselling book about it.

She's only 24.

Totally out of my league in just about every way.

May 1, 2013, 10:32 AM	#1
jimpeel Senior Member Join Date: October 11, 1999 Location: Longmont, CO, USA Posts: 4,530	Fox News goes to Gunsite Academy Fox News reporter Katie Pavlich went to Gunsite for a week-long training session. The report from her experience is here: VIDEO LINK It was an overall good report and covered the full range of defensive firearms use with interviews with students and the owner. It did not cover the costs involved for the course which would have been informative. She went through the entire course with various long and short firearms and interior and exterior scenarios. Gave a good insight into the course. __________________ Gun Control: The premise that a woman found in an alley, raped and strangled with her own pantyhose, is morally superior to allowing that same woman to defend her life with a firearm. "Science is built up with facts, as a house is with stones. But a collection of facts is no more a science than a heap of stones is a house." - Jules Henri Poincare "Three thousand people died on Sept. 11 because eight pilots were killed" -- former Northwest Airlines pilot Stephen Luckey

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May 1, 2013, 02:22 PM	#5
Spats McGee Staff Join Date: July 28, 2010 Location: Arkansas Posts: 8,821	Those are Holstein targets. __________________ I'm a lawyer, but I'm not your lawyer. If you need some honest-to-goodness legal advice, go buy some.

May 1, 2013, 02:40 PM	#6
KyJim Senior Member Join Date: July 26, 2005 Location: The Bluegrass Posts: 9,142	The video link has been removed. Edit: Works now. Last edited by KyJim; May 1, 2013 at 03:23 PM.

May 1, 2013, 02:46 PM	#7
Spats McGee Staff Join Date: July 28, 2010 Location: Arkansas Posts: 8,821	Still works for me. Are you waiting for the ad to finish running? __________________ I'm a lawyer, but I'm not your lawyer. If you need some honest-to-goodness legal advice, go buy some.

May 1, 2013, 11:46 AM	#2
Madcap_Magician Senior Member Join Date: August 13, 2009 Location: MN Posts: 668	I don't have the money or the time to get to Gunsite, but does anyone know what the deal is with those goofy targets they were shooting at, the ones that look ? What's the theory and practical use for them? As an aside... I would be lying if I said my heart didn't skip a beat every time I saw Katie Pavlich.

May 1, 2013, 11:49 AM	#3
Gaerek Senior Member Join Date: October 3, 2012 Location: Arizona Posts: 939	I'm not 100% sure, but I think they're supposed to break up the outline of the "scoring rings" so that you're not using them as a reference, and instead truly shooting "center mass." Please correct me if I'm wrong. Also, I will go to Gunsite one day. It's only a 3-4 hour drive from where I am. I just need the time/money. Eventually...

May 1, 2013, 02:49 PM	#8
BarryLee Senior Member Join Date: July 29, 2010 Location: The ATL (OTP) Posts: 3,946	Yes, that is a nice story and who wouldn’t want to spend a week out there. I wish stories like this could get some more main stream exposure since I doubt many anti-gun types watch much Hannity. __________________ A major source of objection to a free economy is precisely that it ... gives people what they want instead of what a particular group thinks they ought to want. Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. - Milton Friedman

May 1, 2013, 02:58 PM	#10
Kimio Senior Member Join Date: January 2, 2011 Location: Arizona Posts: 1,171	Sadly, that won't happen with the way the current administration works and how current MSM, views gun owners let alone the topic of guns in general (FOX is the very rare exception to this or so it seems) Great stuff, usually a real treat to find something like this being put up in the news, a major new provider no less (Then again, it's Fox, kind of to be expected)

May 1, 2013, 03:21 PM	#11
KyJim Senior Member Join Date: July 26, 2005 Location: The Bluegrass Posts: 9,142	Working now. Must have been a temporary glitch.

May 1, 2013, 11:35 PM	#13
kraigwy Senior Member Join Date: June 16, 2008 Location: Wyoming Posts: 11,061	Good honest report. I like Katie's response to the AR not being useful. Only thing different I would like to have seen is Katie, being petite, comparing Uncle Joe's shot gun to the AR for ease of use. __________________ Kraig Stuart CPT USAR Ret USAMU Sniper School Distinguished Rifle Badge 1071

May 2, 2013, 01:33 PM	#15
22-rimfire Senior Member Join Date: February 19, 2005 Location: Tennessee Posts: 5,323	Saw that when it aired. I think they did a pretty good job and Katie seems nice and likeable.

May 2, 2013, 02:30 PM	#18
Kimio Senior Member Join Date: January 2, 2011 Location: Arizona Posts: 1,171	I'd say "don't have a cow about it" but I don't want to get banned...oh wait

May 2, 2013, 03:33 PM	#20
Microgunner Senior Member Join Date: March 6, 2006 Location: Central Florida Posts: 3,324	beat me to it. __________________ *Proud NRA Benefactor Member*

May 2, 2013, 03:39 PM	#21
Kimio Senior Member Join Date: January 2, 2011 Location: Arizona Posts: 1,171	Better start hoofing it then

May 2, 2013, 06:59 PM	#22
Frank Ettin Staff Join Date: November 23, 2005 Location: California - San Francisco Posts: 9,471	And now I'll be a spoil sport. We've had some fun with this, but I'd now like to see what others have to say about the actual story. For example, I appreciated that the film showed some of the exercises done in the class. What did folks think about the speed exercises (called school drills at Gunsite)? How about the shoot house and outside simulator exercises? Did watching pique anyone's interest. Would anyone not want to go through something like that with a qualified instructor? Who has done some night shooting? So let's put the cows back in the barn and hear some thoughts on Gunsite, Katie Pavlich's story and her experience. BTW, Dave Starin (in the video) was one of the instructors when I took the Intermediate Handgun class (350) at Gunsite a couple of years ago. __________________ "It is long been a principle of ours that one is no more armed because he has possession of a firearm than he is a musician because he owns a piano. There is no point in having a gun if you are not capable of using it skillfully." -- Jeff Cooper

May 2, 2013, 07:14 PM	#23
kennethlee Member Join Date: December 17, 2011 Location: Idaho Posts: 55	Actually, my best takeaway was the nurse who didn't shoot until four years ago. She had a lot of good things to say about knowing guns and how they work make them safer. My wife doesn't like guns and thinks she will never shoot. I'm going to show her this video. __________________ You become what you practice.

May 2, 2013, 07:17 PM	#24
kennethlee Member Join Date: December 17, 2011 Location: Idaho Posts: 55	And yeah, I'd love to spend a week at Gunsite Frank. Those are the kind of drills we all need to practice on a regular basis. To be immersed for a full week must be wonderful! __________________ You become what you practice.