Need Help with 12 gauge shell ID

model18 · July 11, 2010, 08:01 AM

bought a bunch of ammo from a guy and there were several of these 12 gauge shells in the mess. no maker ID. appears to have some cloth wrapped around the load???

thanks in advance!

zippy13 · July 11, 2010, 09:36 AM

How about a pic of the head stamp.

model18 · July 11, 2010, 09:46 AM

zippy13 · July 11, 2010, 10:15 AM

Possibly it's a bean bag load (hence the fabric). Here's a similar marking

model18 · July 11, 2010, 10:22 AM

thanks, zippy!

DG45 · July 12, 2010, 12:48 AM

I recently purchased one hundred 12 gauge primed paper "Cheddite" shotshells from BPI. I believe they were probably made by Fiocchi. I don't know if BPI buys directly from Fiocchi or not. Last I heard, the only importer of Cheddite hulls was Graf & Son. Anyway, the headstamp on the shells I bought from BPI are exactly like the one shown in your photo, with four stars and four 12's, but I realize now as I look at this hyperlink photo myself, that the primers are different on the one in the BPI ad from the primers on the hulls they sent to me. I'm not complaining; the primers on mine look like Winchester 209 shotshell primers; i.e., the outer rim is a steel or aluminum color and the inner (center) part is a brass color which is exactly opposite from what BPI shows in its advertisement photo. The primers on mine are also different from the primer in your photo, although the headstamps are exactly the same. See hyperlink below for photo of what I bought from bpi - except for the different primer.

http://www.ballisticproducts.com/pro...umber=13912PAP

darkgael · July 12, 2010, 09:02 AM

left to right
Fiocchi low brass clear, Cheddite Multi-Hull Paper tube, Multi-Hull plastic tube.

oneounceload · July 12, 2010, 09:28 AM

While they appear to be bean bag loads, the hulls appear to be Cheddites. Cheddite makes hulls for many ammo makers and reloaders. Interesting concept for LTL applications

July 11, 2010, 08:01 AM	#1
model18 Senior Member Join Date: March 14, 2006 Posts: 419	Need Help with 12 gauge shell ID bought a bunch of ammo from a guy and there were several of these 12 gauge shells in the mess. no maker ID. appears to have some cloth wrapped around the load??? thanks in advance!

July 11, 2010, 10:22 AM	#5
model18 Senior Member Join Date: March 14, 2006 Posts: 419	12 gauge headstamp thanks, zippy!

July 12, 2010, 09:02 AM	#7
darkgael Senior Member Join Date: February 9, 2006 Location: Homes in Brooklyn, NY and in Pennsylvania. Posts: 5,473	headstamps left to right Fiocchi low brass clear, Cheddite Multi-Hull Paper tube, Multi-Hull plastic tube. __________________ “Auto racing, bull fighting, and mountain climbing are the only real sports ... all others are games.” Ernest Hemingway ... NRA Life Member

July 11, 2010, 09:36 AM	#2
zippy13 Senior Member Join Date: August 23, 2008 Location: SoCal Posts: 6,442	How about a pic of the head stamp.

July 11, 2010, 09:46 AM	#3
model18 Senior Member Join Date: March 14, 2006 Posts: 419

July 11, 2010, 10:15 AM	#4
zippy13 Senior Member Join Date: August 23, 2008 Location: SoCal Posts: 6,442	Possibly it's a bean bag load (hence the fabric). Here's a similar marking

July 12, 2010, 12:48 AM	#6
DG45 Senior Member Join Date: January 5, 2009 Posts: 904	I recently purchased one hundred 12 gauge primed paper "Cheddite" shotshells from BPI. I believe they were probably made by Fiocchi. I don't know if BPI buys directly from Fiocchi or not. Last I heard, the only importer of Cheddite hulls was Graf & Son. Anyway, the headstamp on the shells I bought from BPI are exactly like the one shown in your photo, with four stars and four 12's, but I realize now as I look at this hyperlink photo myself, that the primers are different on the one in the BPI ad from the primers on the hulls they sent to me. I'm not complaining; the primers on mine look like Winchester 209 shotshell primers; i.e., the outer rim is a steel or aluminum color and the inner (center) part is a brass color which is exactly opposite from what BPI shows in its advertisement photo. The primers on mine are also different from the primer in your photo, although the headstamps are exactly the same. See hyperlink below for photo of what I bought from bpi - except for the different primer. http://www.ballisticproducts.com/pro...umber=13912PAP

July 12, 2010, 09:28 AM	#8
oneounceload Junior member Join Date: April 18, 2008 Location: N. Central Florida Posts: 8,518	While they appear to be bean bag loads, the hulls appear to be Cheddites. Cheddite makes hulls for many ammo makers and reloaders. Interesting concept for LTL applications