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December 29, 2013, 07:30 PM | #1 |
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Would like to convert a 25 rim fire to ?
I have a Hopkins and Allen falling block 25 cal rim fire. Is there any other caliber I could convert to other than 22 cal.? I would like to reload my own ammo.
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December 29, 2013, 07:45 PM | #2 |
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Frank DeHaas thought it would handle .38 Special.
I'd be more comfortable at .32. A .32 S&W Long would be an interesting project. Of course you have either gun smithing equipment and skill or a large budget. It would not be a small job. |
December 29, 2013, 10:27 PM | #3 |
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I never thought about 38, I can reload 38 colt. I do have some equipment it would be a interesting protect.
I'm sure I can get some more input here pro and con. |
December 30, 2013, 05:56 PM | #4 |
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Try 32 Long or 32 ACP if you just gotta have a centerfire. Most go with 22 because the breechbolt for the rifle is rim-fire and they can avoid the cost and hassle of converting the firing pin to center-fire.
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December 30, 2013, 07:23 PM | #5 |
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Will a .25 RF firing pin reach in to a .22 RF rim without alteration?
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December 30, 2013, 10:21 PM | #6 |
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I think it would be easier to get a barrel liner for .32 S&W (.32-20) than for .38 Special. That gun should take .32 S&W or .32 S&W Long with no problems. Converting the firing pin and extractor to the .32 CF should not be a problem; gunsmiths have been doing things like that for years.
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December 30, 2013, 10:38 PM | #7 |
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.32 S&W (.32-20) indicating what?
You can have either but not both. |
December 31, 2013, 12:06 AM | #8 | |
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Most .312" barrel liners are sold under the pretense of being used with .32-20 (rather than other cartridges with groove diameters larger than .312", like .32 Winchester Special [which is actually 8mm]). He was simply providing additional information, indicating that a barrel liner for .32 S&W or .32 S&W Long (both .312") might be called a ".32-20" barrel liner.
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December 31, 2013, 05:33 PM | #9 |
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This one minute video of Larry Potterfield with his rimfire to center fire conversion is interesting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8SK0Jr01yM#t=2
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Assuming the original bore is in good shape, and you're willing to convert to centerfire...
Is there a reason you couldn't convert to .25-20? Seems to me that converting the firing pin and running a .25-20 reamer into the chamber would be one of the easiest and lowest cost solutions. Also, black powder level loads shouldn't overly stress an action originally designed for low power rim fire rounds. |
December 31, 2013, 06:27 PM | #11 |
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25 ACP? I've wondered how that would do in a rifle.
25-20 is a possibility. Same case diameter as 32-20. I've heard of converting the firing pin and using 22 hornet cut down to 25 RF dimensions and loaded with a 25 bullet. |
December 31, 2013, 07:13 PM | #12 |
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Because of the barrel liner the 32/20 has my attention. The input is really helping to decide which way to go.
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December 31, 2013, 08:07 PM | #13 |
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Sorry for not being clear on what I meant on ".32 (.32-20)"; FrankenMauser has expressed my meaning better than I did.
Because so many liners are sold for use on old Winchester rifles, they often are designated as being for .25-20, .32-20, 38-40 and .44-40. I meant that a liner designated for .32-20 would work for .32 S&W or .32 S&W Long. Jim |
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This has thwarted many experiments I would like to perform. Redman was making 25 cal barrel liners for a while. They may exist as new old stock in places. The biggest problem I have with 25acp pistol testing is recoil. It really hurts. I need a more massive 25acp. I could easily do that if the barrel material were available. All I can find is short pistol barrels at Numrich.
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January 9, 2014, 07:08 PM | #15 |
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Thank for your input
Thank you all for your input. I have decided to convert to 32 S&W long. I have to make a new block because of the play and will make it center fire. I ordered a barrel liner to day from TJ's, Mike is very easy to talk to and very informative.
I have been away from firearms for a long time and it is fun to get excited about a project again. |
January 11, 2014, 12:21 PM | #16 |
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Would a .256 Winchester Magnum be too hot for this action?
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January 11, 2014, 07:09 PM | #17 |
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Yes, .256 would be to hot. IMHO
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January 14, 2014, 12:10 PM | #19 |
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I would go with a 25-20 conversion, or if it is a single shot - .25 Stevens. The 25 stevens was used in single shot rifles and had a longer case than the 25-20.
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January 14, 2014, 02:24 PM | #20 |
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My grandpa couldnt get his hands on anymore 25 stevens a few years back so he made a few with reformed .22 hornet casings. I can ask him more details if you want.
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January 16, 2014, 10:36 PM | #21 |
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The 25/20 was my first choice. The higher pressure over the 32 S&W long scared me away. I felt the chamber walls would be to thin as opposed to the S&W.
I am certainly no expert by any means, want to keep it safe. |
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