Javelina question

Fuzzy · January 24, 2002, 10:32 PM

I'm going Javelina hunting next month and I'm wondering what kind of ammo I should use. I have a 30-06 and I was wondering if someone could recomend a factory load that would be good for them.

Thanks,

Mad Max · January 24, 2002, 11:12 PM

You may want to try Remington Ballistic Tip, which uses the Nosler Ballistic Tip bullet. My 7mm loves that stuff and shoots it great, and the polymer tip will open up really fast on those little suckers. Good hunting.

Salt · January 25, 2002, 03:22 AM

.30-06? 7mm?

Too much gun for those little Javleena's.

Might I suggest something smaller, like say a .32-20 or 25-20 lever action rifle? If ya gotta go with a bolt gun, then perhaps .243 or 6mm

Art Eatman · January 25, 2002, 09:08 AM

Anybody's 150-grain bullet, of whatever sort. A fully-grown pigalina, on the hoof--or all four of 'em--weighs around 35 pounds, mas o menos.

Shoot 'em in the eye. NOT in the body. And they ain't got no neck...

After you shoot one, cut the skin in a circle around the scent gland on the back. After that, if you're halfway careful, you can field-dress the little critter without even getting your hands bloody.

They're easier to skin when the carcass is still warm.

Barbecue the hams over about a 300-degree bed of coals for some truly yummy-tasty! (Make up a basting mix of any old barbecue sauce and add "stuff" to it to suit you--but use no salt. And turn the ham with tongs, not a fork. You don't want to lose moisture from the meat.)

, Art

C.R.Sam · January 25, 2002, 11:01 AM

Art been there.
Care in killin and dressin.
Good meat.

Nearly any gun will do.
Shooter skill counts more.

Sam

Fuzzy · January 26, 2002, 12:11 AM

Thanks for the help guys. Now I just need to find one...

Art Eatman · January 26, 2002, 08:21 AM

MIddle of the day, they're ususally laid up, sleeping or just sorta hangin' out. Around sundown they'll string out and head for any sort of water point.

Art

1goodshot · January 26, 2002, 08:26 AM

I've always used a 357, so just about anything in 30-06 will be more than enough.You don't need to spend alot on fancy bullets

C.R.Sam · January 26, 2002, 11:19 AM

Plant tulip bulbs. Piglets like em for breakfast. Saves a lot of walkin.

Don't leave kitchen window open if snow deep outside, might have piglet in house.

Sam

Salt · January 28, 2002, 03:27 AM

.30-06 for Javleena?!?

Ya might as well be using a .375 H&H for cottontails.

Really now, a rifle chambered in .25-20, 32-20, or 22 Hornet would be just about right for the dainty little Javleena.

Save the '06 for those big wild hogs.

Art Eatman · January 28, 2002, 09:43 AM

Salt, if you'll notice, what the guy owns is an '06. What the heck. Shoot one in the eye and it don't make no nevermind, nohow.

Art

C.R.Sam · January 28, 2002, 11:39 AM

Run whatcha brung.
Bracket racin or pot huntin.

Whatever gun is handy is the right gun for javalena.

Sam

Long Path · January 28, 2002, 02:25 PM

Shoot, their heads are mighty big for their bodies, and a head shot with any rifle will put 'em down. But may I humbly suggest that javelinas are possibly the best initial step into handgun hunting? I've taken 3 with pistols now; 2 with a 6" .38 spl., and one with my Kimber .45 acp.

But Art's right-- with the tough little swine, you're best served with a head shot. Art, I still haven't posted that story, have I?

Salt · January 28, 2002, 02:55 PM

Looks like a total dude when using such a powerful rifle for such a small animal.

JasonReed · January 28, 2002, 06:06 PM

FWIW Fuzzy, I don't think you'll look like a dude. I think you'll look like a guy who owns a 30-06.

I'm hunting coyotes for the first time next month and I'm using my '06. Why? Cuz it's what I've got. I use it for elk, antelope, whitetail, coyote, anything that my 10/22 doesn't handle. Long as I'm not UNDER gunned, I don't see the point in having a different gun for each critter.

Fuzzy · January 28, 2002, 10:54 PM

I'm with you, JasonReed. I have a .22 and an '06 and I'm not in a position right now to buy a new gun just for one hunt. So, I'll take my '06. Yes, it has a lot more power than my huntin' buddy's SKS, but it's also a lot more accurate. Neither of us have taken a Javelina before, so the real challenge will be finding them.

With an '06, a .22, and a shotgun, I don't see that there is anything that I can't hunt. At least in the lower 48.

-Fuzzy

H&H,hunter · February 2, 2002, 08:37 PM

Use anything you want on Javalina. If your going to use your 06 I'd recomend a stout bullet they tend to do less meat damage than a fast expander.
Do you guys really like Javalina meat? I've met maggots that'd turn it down for a nice steamy pile of fresh dog turds.

I've got a recipe for of my own for Javalina. Take one grown Javalina staple him to an oak plank fill cavity with horse manure bury him under 4' of rocks and start fire ontop let cook for 3 days. After 3 days dig up the Javalina poor horse manure on plank throw Javalina away and eat manure.

Art Eatman · February 3, 2002, 01:32 AM

Since I've always had my javelina cook up just really tastily, I dunno what to tell you!

Maybe local diets affect them. I've read about people griping that antelope is lousy eating, but mine was yummy tasty. Dangfino.

I cut the scent gland out first. If I'm halfway careful in gutting, I hardly even get any blood on my hands. I skin the critter pretty much ASAP. I generally barbecue the hams. There's not all that much meat on the shoulders, and the backstraps and ribs are small--but in my experience it's all good eats.

Art

H&H,hunter · February 3, 2002, 02:30 PM

I've never bother with the scent gland I just remove it when I skin the critter(skin and all). Maybe that's my problem?

I sure do like hunting those little Pecaries though. Have you ever called Them in using a mouth grunt? If the wind is right you can get right in the middle of a group of them. They'll actually talk back and forth to you, that's really fun. I like to hunt them with a pistol or a muzzle loader.

Art Eatman · February 3, 2002, 04:01 PM

I've had them come in to a wounded-rabbit call when I was coyote-calling.

They're a lot of fun to meddle around with. Ever grab up a little baby, one that's still sorta pink? The herd runs, but Momma pops her jaws and the piglet squeals and the rest of them run around in the brush all worried. They don't wanna leave; they don't wanna stay...

They make pretty good pets, but they're territorial little doofers. "Serious Watch Pig". We had a census lady get bitten by a guy's pet pigalina. Lots of locals' jokes about that one.

, Art

H&H,hunter · February 4, 2002, 01:56 AM

I have caught a baby feral hog but I've never caught a baby pigalina. Now you've done it. I just got myself a new goal for the year.

January 24, 2002, 10:32 PM	#1
Fuzzy Senior Member Join Date: March 22, 2001 Location: Tucson, AZ USA Posts: 126	Javelina question I'm going Javelina hunting next month and I'm wondering what kind of ammo I should use. I have a 30-06 and I was wondering if someone could recomend a factory load that would be good for them. Thanks, __________________ -Fuzzy

January 24, 2002, 11:12 PM	#2
Mad Max Senior Member Join Date: October 16, 2001 Location: Texas Posts: 102	You may want to try Remington Ballistic Tip, which uses the Nosler Ballistic Tip bullet. My 7mm loves that stuff and shoots it great, and the polymer tip will open up really fast on those little suckers. Good hunting. __________________ "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin "I don't mind it when stupid people say stupid things. Stupid people should be encouraged to say stupid things, that way we always know who the stupid people are." ~ Ted Nugent - Fox News, 2002. "A man's ethical behavior should be based effectually on sympathy, education, and social ties and needs; no religious basis is necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death." [Albert Einstein, "Religion and Science", New York Times Magazine, 9 November 1930]

January 26, 2002, 12:11 AM	#6
Fuzzy Senior Member Join Date: March 22, 2001 Location: Tucson, AZ USA Posts: 126	Thanks for the help guys. Now I just need to find one... __________________ -Fuzzy

January 28, 2002, 10:54 PM	#16
Fuzzy Senior Member Join Date: March 22, 2001 Location: Tucson, AZ USA Posts: 126	I'm with you, JasonReed. I have a .22 and an '06 and I'm not in a position right now to buy a new gun just for one hunt. So, I'll take my '06. Yes, it has a lot more power than my huntin' buddy's SKS, but it's also a lot more accurate. Neither of us have taken a Javelina before, so the real challenge will be finding them. With an '06, a .22, and a shotgun, I don't see that there is anything that I can't hunt. At least in the lower 48. -Fuzzy __________________ -Fuzzy

January 25, 2002, 03:22 AM	#3
Salt Junior member Join Date: December 26, 2001 Posts: 673	.30-06? 7mm? Too much gun for those little Javleena's. Might I suggest something smaller, like say a .32-20 or 25-20 lever action rifle? If ya gotta go with a bolt gun, then perhaps .243 or 6mm

January 25, 2002, 09:08 AM	#4
Art Eatman Staff in Memoriam Join Date: November 13, 1998 Location: Terlingua, TX; Thomasville, GA Posts: 24,798	Anybody's 150-grain bullet, of whatever sort. A fully-grown pigalina, on the hoof--or all four of 'em--weighs around 35 pounds, mas o menos. Shoot 'em in the eye. NOT in the body. And they ain't got no neck... After you shoot one, cut the skin in a circle around the scent gland on the back. After that, if you're halfway careful, you can field-dress the little critter without even getting your hands bloody. They're easier to skin when the carcass is still warm. Barbecue the hams over about a 300-degree bed of coals for some truly yummy-tasty! (Make up a basting mix of any old barbecue sauce and add "stuff" to it to suit you--but use no salt. And turn the ham with tongs, not a fork. You don't want to lose moisture from the meat.) , Art

January 25, 2002, 11:01 AM	#5
C.R.Sam Senior Member Join Date: October 29, 1999 Location: Dewey, AZ Posts: 12,858	Art been there. Care in killin and dressin. Good meat. Nearly any gun will do. Shooter skill counts more. Sam

January 26, 2002, 08:21 AM	#7
Art Eatman Staff in Memoriam Join Date: November 13, 1998 Location: Terlingua, TX; Thomasville, GA Posts: 24,798	MIddle of the day, they're ususally laid up, sleeping or just sorta hangin' out. Around sundown they'll string out and head for any sort of water point. Art

January 26, 2002, 08:26 AM	#8
1goodshot Senior Member Join Date: November 11, 2001 Location: chandler,az Posts: 929	I've always used a 357, so just about anything in 30-06 will be more than enough.You don't need to spend alot on fancy bullets

January 26, 2002, 11:19 AM	#9
C.R.Sam Senior Member Join Date: October 29, 1999 Location: Dewey, AZ Posts: 12,858	Plant tulip bulbs. Piglets like em for breakfast. Saves a lot of walkin. Don't leave kitchen window open if snow deep outside, might have piglet in house. Sam

January 28, 2002, 03:27 AM	#10
Salt Junior member Join Date: December 26, 2001 Posts: 673	.30-06 for Javleena?!? Ya might as well be using a .375 H&H for cottontails. Really now, a rifle chambered in .25-20, 32-20, or 22 Hornet would be just about right for the dainty little Javleena. Save the '06 for those big wild hogs.

January 28, 2002, 09:43 AM	#11
Art Eatman Staff in Memoriam Join Date: November 13, 1998 Location: Terlingua, TX; Thomasville, GA Posts: 24,798	Salt, if you'll notice, what the guy owns is an '06. What the heck. Shoot one in the eye and it don't make no nevermind, nohow. Art

January 28, 2002, 11:39 AM	#12
C.R.Sam Senior Member Join Date: October 29, 1999 Location: Dewey, AZ Posts: 12,858	Run whatcha brung. Bracket racin or pot huntin. Whatever gun is handy is the right gun for javalena. Sam

January 28, 2002, 02:55 PM	#14
Salt Junior member Join Date: December 26, 2001 Posts: 673	Looks like a total dude when using such a powerful rifle for such a small animal.

January 28, 2002, 06:06 PM	#15
JasonReed Member Join Date: December 15, 1999 Location: Colorado Posts: 91	FWIW Fuzzy, I don't think you'll look like a dude. I think you'll look like a guy who owns a 30-06. I'm hunting coyotes for the first time next month and I'm using my '06. Why? Cuz it's what I've got. I use it for elk, antelope, whitetail, coyote, anything that my 10/22 doesn't handle. Long as I'm not UNDER gunned, I don't see the point in having a different gun for each critter.

February 2, 2002, 08:37 PM	#17
H&H,hunter Senior Member Join Date: July 25, 2001 Location: Colorado Posts: 504	Use anything you want on Javalina. If your going to use your 06 I'd recomend a stout bullet they tend to do less meat damage than a fast expander. Do you guys really like Javalina meat? I've met maggots that'd turn it down for a nice steamy pile of fresh dog turds. I've got a recipe for of my own for Javalina. Take one grown Javalina staple him to an oak plank fill cavity with horse manure bury him under 4' of rocks and start fire ontop let cook for 3 days. After 3 days dig up the Javalina poor horse manure on plank throw Javalina away and eat manure.

February 3, 2002, 01:32 AM	#18
Art Eatman Staff in Memoriam Join Date: November 13, 1998 Location: Terlingua, TX; Thomasville, GA Posts: 24,798	Since I've always had my javelina cook up just really tastily, I dunno what to tell you! Maybe local diets affect them. I've read about people griping that antelope is lousy eating, but mine was yummy tasty. Dangfino. I cut the scent gland out first. If I'm halfway careful in gutting, I hardly even get any blood on my hands. I skin the critter pretty much ASAP. I generally barbecue the hams. There's not all that much meat on the shoulders, and the backstraps and ribs are small--but in my experience it's all good eats. Art

February 3, 2002, 02:30 PM	#19
H&H,hunter Senior Member Join Date: July 25, 2001 Location: Colorado Posts: 504	I've never bother with the scent gland I just remove it when I skin the critter(skin and all). Maybe that's my problem? I sure do like hunting those little Pecaries though. Have you ever called Them in using a mouth grunt? If the wind is right you can get right in the middle of a group of them. They'll actually talk back and forth to you, that's really fun. I like to hunt them with a pistol or a muzzle loader.

February 3, 2002, 04:01 PM	#20
Art Eatman Staff in Memoriam Join Date: November 13, 1998 Location: Terlingua, TX; Thomasville, GA Posts: 24,798	I've had them come in to a wounded-rabbit call when I was coyote-calling. They're a lot of fun to meddle around with. Ever grab up a little baby, one that's still sorta pink? The herd runs, but Momma pops her jaws and the piglet squeals and the rest of them run around in the brush all worried. They don't wanna leave; they don't wanna stay... They make pretty good pets, but they're territorial little doofers. "Serious Watch Pig". We had a census lady get bitten by a guy's pet pigalina. Lots of locals' jokes about that one. , Art

February 4, 2002, 01:56 AM	#21
H&H,hunter Senior Member Join Date: July 25, 2001 Location: Colorado Posts: 504	I have caught a baby feral hog but I've never caught a baby pigalina. Now you've done it. I just got myself a new goal for the year.