Load for 327 Fed Mag

[flyguy958]

I'm looking for a load for 327 Fed Mag, 85Gr Hornady XTP with Power Pistol, Unique H110, or Bullseye. Seems all the load data I can find don't use powders I have. And witch one of y'all bought all the 100gr bullets?

[Clark]

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I have worked up loads from scratch in 32 S&W Long and in 32-20 in revolvers over 100 years old until sticky extraction, and then backed off a safety margin.

The 32 S&W Long is 1.28" OAL, I back off to 9.5 gr H110 110 gr
The 327 Fed Mag is 1.47" OAL,
The 32-20 is 1.592" OAL, I get to 17 gr H110, 85 gr

So my guess is that if one starts out with 85 gr 1.47" 9.5 gr H110 and work work up in 0.1 gr increments until the threshold of easy extraction, and then back off 0.5 gr margin for process and environmental variation, the final load will be ~ 13 gr.

[Colorado Redneck]

Alliant has been lazy about creating load data for this caliber. So being the old dummy I am, experimented some with Unique and Blue Dot. Max velocity is not my main goal, just good performance without blowing up the gun and blinding me. Not home right now but if you are interested I will try to look up what weights of Unique I used.

I do NOT recommend that anybody experiment with loading! I did that at my own risk.

[LE-28]

And witch one of y'all bought all the 100gr bullets?

Uh, that may have been me with xtps anyways. Sorry man.

As far as loads go you won't be happy.
Universal 5.0 gr crimped to the crimp groove of Lee 90gr SWC tumble lube mold.
231 5.0 gr crimped to the crimp groove of Lee 90gr bullet mold tumble lube mold.

Both of these recipes in a SP101 ruger are freekin deadly accurate beyond belief.

As far as Power Pistol, when I run out of universal I will go straight to power pistol. You won't like this either but you will have to work up your own load for it.
It will be a while before I run out of Universal so I haven't had to do that yet or I be of more help.
Power Pistol is one of my favorite powders of all time because it is like Unique in that it will work for just about anything.

I wish I had something for you.

[flyguy958]

Thanks to all, and yea Colorado I'd be interested, I have 8lbs of Unique!

Clark, sounds like a plan.

[FrankenMauser]

My 85 gr XTP loads use either Lil' Gun or H110. I'll take a look later, and post the data if it's H110. (I'll use what I've got, but I don't recommend Lil' Gun. It's a very hot burning powder, and has been shown to cause significant bore erosion [and forcing cone damage in revolvers].)

[Sevens]

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I've been trying to keep it all in one tidy thread, since we don't have a lot of activity in .327 Federal, having it all in one place is manageable and -FAR- easier for everyone to glean info and... PLEASE... add their information to the knowledge base!

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[flyguy958]

Shame on you LE-28, should have left some for the rest of us.

FrankenMauser, I'd like to know if it was H-110, what the load details were and if it was a good load.

[A pause for the COZ]

I will have to look when I get home. I think the new Hornady book has some loads for the XTP's
Pretty sure it had some loads for H110 Using srp's.

I load the 100 grainers ahead of 2400 and have been more than satisfied with the results. Makes one heck of a fire ball from my snubbie.

[LE-28]

(I'll use what I've got, but I don't recommend Lil' Gun. It's a very hot burning powder, and has been shown to cause significant bore erosion [and forcing cone damage in revolvers].)

I've heard both ways on Lil'Gun, I used 13 gr with 100 gr xtps. I believe 14gr is max load.
They're load as hell!
I'm going to have to start experimenting with power pistol. I know longshot would work fine but I'd have to work up a load for that also.

From MD Smith Reloading pages, This should have everything you need except some xtps. (oops)

100 Grain Hornady XTP (.312")
Universal 4.5 gr. 1,087 (start)
Universal 5.4 gr. 1,250 (max)
W-231 & HP-38 4.8 gr. 1,146 (start)
W-231 & HP-38 5.4 gr. 1,261 (max)
W-296 13.2 gr. 1,525 (MAXIMUM)
AA #9 10.0 gr. 1,219 (start)
AA #9 10.8 gr. 1,272
AA #9 11.4 gr. 1,312 (max)
2400 10.0 gr. 1,172 (start)
2400 10.8 gr. 1,202
2400 11.4 gr. 1,215 (max)
HS-6 8.3 gr. 1,466 (max)
Lil'Gun 12.7 gr. 1,347 (start)
Lil'Gun 14.0 gr. 1,431 (max)
W-AutoComp 5.5 gr. 1,190 (start)
W-AutoComp 6.2 gr. 1,328 (max)
Titegroup 4.3 gr. 1,102 (start)
Titegroup 5.2 gr. 1,261 (max)
Titegroup 5.2 gr. 1,197 Hi=1224, Lo=1182, ES=42 (good load)
Power Pistol 6.5 gr. 1,228 (max)
VV N350 8.8 gr. 1,565 (max)
Enforcer 10.0 gr. 1,155
Enforcer 11.0 gr. 1,285
Enforcer 11.4 gr. 1,296 (near max)
Enforcer 12.3 gr. 1,395 (Max)
True Blue 6.8 gr. 1,279
True Blue 7.5 gr. 1,404 (max)
Federal Factory Loads (JSP bullet) 1,463 Hi=1485 Lo=1444 ES=40.2
American Eagle Factory (JSP bullet) 1,630 Hi=1668 Lo=1604 ES=63 (in 5.5" bbl Ruger)

[A pause for the COZ]

I tried some of those Federal 100 gr factory loads in my Taurus 327.
Way too much for that little gun I thought. Cases were real hard to get out.

My 2400 loads work just fine.

The lighter American Eagle loads seemed to shoot fine.

The real cool thing about this caliber.
Even with this Taurus only having a 2inch barrel. It is one of the easiest to shoot and one of my most accurate revolvers.
Might have been my most accurate until the Smith model 19 showed up and started putting bullets dang near through the same hole.

I am still after one of those 327 Charter Arms Target bull Dogs with the 4 inch barrel and adjustable sights. Was getting ready to buy one and they quit making them. Dang it all.

[FrankenMauser]

FrankenMauser, I'd like to know if it was H-110, what the load details were and if it was a good load.

It looks like I'm still running Lil' Gun behind 85 gr XTPs in .32 H&R and .327 Federal.

I loaded it because I had it. And, now I'm just trying to burn it up (in .458 SOCOM, and .444 Marlin shotshells, as well) so I can move on to something better.

[Clark]

That Revolver cost me $100 in 2005, but I can't remember how much I paid for the scope.

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85 gr Hornady .312" JHP, 1.3" OAL, upside down 308 Lee rifle factory crimp, 14 gr LIL'GUN

Colt New Police 32 S&W Long mfg 1907
14 gr Quickload predicts 7.3" barrel 1700 fps 29kpsi
Chronographs 1413 fps

[A pause for the COZ]

but I can't remember how much I paid for the scope.

Very funny

[flyguy958]

Well, I started working up my load today. Below is what I am at right now.
Ruger SP 101 3.06" barrel
85 Gr Hornady XTP
Win 296 Powder
Tula SPM primer
Started at 12.8 worked to 14.0
Easy extraction, primers are not as flat as factory loads and recoil is still lighter than factory. Now it's time to crono the load.

[skizzums]

Ii didn't get it til I saw Coz post, that's hilarious!!