Wow, Ruger blew up! - Page 4

stagpanther · July 23, 2016, 07:36 PM

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What 357mag GP100 load burns 22grs of H110?
I assume it was the 110gr XTP...

That sounds like one of my 41 mag loads.

jim8115 · July 24, 2016, 09:44 PM

That is the max published load for a 125 xtp ( wwpowder.com ) same load i used to shoot a bunch of......until it trashed the forcing cone on my GP100

stagpanther · July 25, 2016, 09:54 AM

Running those numbers through my Quickxxxx reveals over 52K psi generated through a 6.5" barrel. Just an approximation--but pause for thought for me.

Guv · July 25, 2016, 10:11 AM

No wonder it was so abusive. I got away from high power light bullet loads on my revolvers many years ago. Too much Fury at the forcing cone!

jackmoser65 · July 25, 2016, 10:40 AM

Lightweight jacketed bullets over big doses of ball powder is the recipe for erosion.

75218ron · July 25, 2016, 11:29 AM

"we know what happened with the bad batch of Redhawk barrels. The wrong lube was put on barrels on Friday, dried out by Monday, barrels got over-torqued."

Jim March: I never knew about this. When were these produced?

Winchester_73 · August 7, 2016, 11:10 PM

But but but...my Ruger is so heavy its stronger than any other revolver! It can't blow up! I buy Rugers because I think reloading past safe spec is a good idea to evaluate how good a revolver really is. Kind of like separating the men from the boys by running down hill backwards with scissors in hand!

Reminds me of this ad

hornetguy · August 8, 2016, 09:13 PM

who says you can't blow up a Taurus?

Stargater53 · August 23, 2016, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim March

we know what happened with the bad batch of Redhawk barrels. The wrong lube was put on barrels on Friday, dried out by Monday, barrels got over-torqued.

It wasn't just Redhawks. Some Security-Sixes had the same problem.

Was there a recall over this?

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Doyle · August 23, 2016, 10:51 PM

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It wasn't just Redhawks. Some Security-Sixes had the same problem.

My last security six did this exact same thing. Broke off at the threads inside the frame. I really wanted Ruger to replace the barrel. They told me they don't keep those parts around anymore and gave me the choice of a replacement - either a GP100 or a SP101. I chose a 4" SP101 since my purpose for this particular revolver was for a "walking in the woods" gun and I didn't want the weight of a GP100.

Stargater53 · August 23, 2016, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Winchester_73

As someone who owns both Rugers and S&Ws, I think this ad was a bit of a disaster. First, ads about guns should be geared towards selling guns. I think this ad sold more steaks and malts than S&W 686s! And two, forged steel has not been shown to be substantially superior to investment cast steel. What's more, the weight of both guns is essentially the same, with the edge going to the Ruger (due to the grip strut replacing the actual gun grip).

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gwpercle · August 24, 2016, 04:01 PM

I don't know what these people are putting in their reloads to blow the top strap off a Ruger Blackhawk, but they have to be committing some serious reloading errors. Blackhawk top straps are not fragile .
They need to go back and check that load data !
This thread just goes to show a determined person can blow up anything.
Gary

dgludwig · August 24, 2016, 06:32 PM

QUOTE: "...As someone who owns both Rugers and S&Ws, I think this ad was a bit of a disaster..."

I always thought that it was a rather clever and persuasive ad-and I own about as many Ruger pistols as I do Smiths.

Guv · August 24, 2016, 10:28 PM

I think many of those pictures of destroyed Blackhawks are probably 45 Colts with an accidental double charge of something like 231. That big 45 case given a quick glance, could look properly charged but have explosive results.

Gats Italian · August 26, 2016, 05:45 PM

All Ruger DA revolvers have extra steel where S&W puts the Hillary Hole.

July 25, 2016, 09:54 AM	#78
stagpanther Senior Member Join Date: March 2, 2014 Posts: 11,789	Running those numbers through my Quickxxxx reveals over 52K psi generated through a 6.5" barrel. Just an approximation--but pause for thought for me. __________________ "Everyone speaks gun."--Robert O'Neill *I am NOT an expert--I do not have any formal experience or certification in firearms use or testing; use any information I post at your own risk!*

July 25, 2016, 10:11 AM	#79
Guv Senior Member Join Date: February 24, 2012 Location: South Texas Posts: 2,126	No wonder it was so abusive. I got away from high power light bullet loads on my revolvers many years ago. Too much Fury at the forcing cone! __________________ Walnut and Gloss Blue, mostly!

August 7, 2016, 11:10 PM	#82
Winchester_73 Senior Member Join Date: December 20, 2008 Location: Pittsburgh PA Posts: 2,863	Rugers cannot blow up! Its impossible! But but but...my Ruger is so heavy its stronger than any other revolver! It can't blow up! I buy Rugers because I think reloading past safe spec is a good idea to evaluate how good a revolver really is. Kind of like separating the men from the boys by running down hill backwards with scissors in hand! Reminds me of this ad __________________ Winchester 73, the TFL user that won the west

August 8, 2016, 09:13 PM	#83
hornetguy Senior Member Join Date: January 14, 2011 Location: on the north side of DFW Posts: 970	who says you can't blow up a Taurus? __________________ I always felt that if I got to the point where I thought it was time to bury my firearms, it was actually time to pick them up.. Last edited by hornetguy; August 8, 2016 at 09:19 PM.

August 24, 2016, 06:32 PM	#88
dgludwig Senior Member Join Date: February 12, 2005 Location: North central Ohio Posts: 7,486	QUOTE: "...As someone who owns both Rugers and S&Ws, I think this ad was a bit of a disaster..." I always thought that it was a rather clever and persuasive ad-and I own about as many Ruger pistols as I do Smiths. __________________ ONLY AN ARMED PEOPLE CAN BE TRULY FREE ; ONLY AN UNARMED PEOPLE CAN EVER BE ENSLAVED ...Aristotle NRA Benefactor Life Member

July 24, 2016, 09:44 PM	#77
jim8115 Senior Member Join Date: July 23, 2011 Location: Arkansas Posts: 229	That is the max published load for a 125 xtp ( wwpowder.com ) same load i used to shoot a bunch of......until it trashed the forcing cone on my GP100

July 25, 2016, 10:40 AM	#80
jackmoser65 Senior Member Join Date: October 11, 2014 Posts: 754	Lightweight jacketed bullets over big doses of ball powder is the recipe for erosion.

July 25, 2016, 11:29 AM	#81
75218ron Senior Member Join Date: July 24, 2016 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 191	"we know what happened with the bad batch of Redhawk barrels. The wrong lube was put on barrels on Friday, dried out by Monday, barrels got over-torqued." Jim March: I never knew about this. When were these produced?

August 24, 2016, 04:01 PM	#87
gwpercle Senior Member Join Date: November 30, 2012 Location: Baton Rouge, Louisiana Posts: 1,752	I don't know what these people are putting in their reloads to blow the top strap off a Ruger Blackhawk, but they have to be committing some serious reloading errors. Blackhawk top straps are not fragile . They need to go back and check that load data ! This thread just goes to show a determined person can blow up anything. Gary

August 24, 2016, 10:28 PM	#89
Guv Senior Member Join Date: February 24, 2012 Location: South Texas Posts: 2,126	I think many of those pictures of destroyed Blackhawks are probably 45 Colts with an accidental double charge of something like 231. That big 45 case given a quick glance, could look properly charged but have explosive results. __________________ Walnut and Gloss Blue, mostly!

August 26, 2016, 05:45 PM	#90
Gats Italian Senior Member Join Date: November 12, 2008 Posts: 451	All Ruger DA revolvers have extra steel where S&W puts the Hillary Hole. __________________ Leave the gun, take the cannoli.