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Old January 25, 2009, 05:36 PM   #26
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I think loophole was a term created way before the Brady campaign.
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Old January 25, 2009, 06:42 PM   #27
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Back in 1979 18 year olds could buy handgun from FFLdealer, Back then you had too register the gun & carry in veicals had to be in plain sight
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Old January 25, 2009, 09:09 PM   #28
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I don't think he was implying that the Brady campaign coined the term loophole, but rather was pointing out that federalism cannot be considered a loophole.
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Old February 3, 2009, 02:40 PM   #29
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Don't know the law anywhere's else...

But here in Indiana, you CAN buy a handgun at 18 years old...provided that it's a face-to-face sale. (And a resident of Indiana...a "proper person" and all that jazz)

You have to be 21 in order to buy a handgun from an FFL/dealer, though.

We here in the Free State of Indiana also allow our 18-20 year olds to carry concealed...with the proper license, of course.

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Old February 3, 2009, 04:53 PM   #30
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Back in 1979 18 year olds could buy handgun from FFLdealer, Back then you had too register the gun & carry in veicals had to be in plain sight
The 21 year old requirement has been around since the 1968 Gun Control Act. In 1979, when I was 19 years old, I couldn't even buy ammunition for a handgun. Back then, dealers had to keep a log of all ammunitions sales.

There has never been a federal firearm registration or a firearm registration in the State of Florida.

The requirement for carry in vehicles has always been a part of state/local law, not federal law. In 1987, Florida passed a law preventing all cities and counties from passing firearm laws (except for a 3 day waiting period at the county level). Thus, state law for carry in vehicles and for CCW was standardized throughout the state.
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Old July 9, 2012, 11:34 PM   #31
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after i turned 18 i found it illogical that i could purchase a shotgun and not a hand gun , but what i found completely ridiculous is that i couldnt even go to my local gun range and rent a pistol from them to shoot in their own range until i turn 21
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Old July 11, 2012, 09:17 PM   #32
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Very good advise! LEO's don't usually have time to be experts on the law.
I always heard ignorance of the law was no excuse. Suppose to apply to cops also. They best learn the laws their paid to enforce. . Save a lot of people from arrest on made up charges.
They all have or should have a book with their state laws . So they can look up what law to charge you with. When I was in Co. in 70' we all carried such a book.
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Old July 12, 2012, 08:07 PM   #33
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Gee, how could police make any arrests if they could only enforce REAL laws and not make them up as they go along?

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Old July 14, 2012, 07:53 AM   #34
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I bought a brand new S&W 357 when I was 18........in 1980.

I think the laws changed a few years after that.
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Old July 14, 2012, 08:00 AM   #35
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Local and state cops don't typically enforce federal law, so there's not any real reason to assume they will be all that familiar with federal law. (Full disclosure: I've been given very erroneous advice from some cop friends with regards to handgun transfers in the past. Luckily, I found this forum, and checked on some things...)

When in doubt, ask a local lawyer, or ask the local ATF office.

Meanwhile, MO is another state where an 18yo can own a handgun (state law), but cannot buy from an FFL (federal law). I believe MO just passed a law allowing concealed carry permits for military members in the 18-20 age bracket, too.

I'm a bit concerned about what this may do to some of our reciprocity agreements, but I think the legislature and governor are in the right on this issue.
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