March 12, 2012, 02:34 AM | #1 |
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Wiley Clapp GP100
I love the concept of this revolver (and think it would have been perfect with a 3.5" barrel) and would like to pick one up (so I can add a 3.5" barrel). However I keep looking at the topstrap, specifically the part where they milled it out to fit the novak, and it just looks way thin.
For regular shooting I realize this is probably academic, but on a gun whos biggest selling point is its near indestructibility, does anyone else think that removing this much metal from such a high stress area could be a liability for either frame stretching or worse in the unlikely event someone wasn't careful with a reload?
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You should be able to get a pre-jacked up Smith or a Colt Lawman for that amount of money. Either would be more collectible and higher quality.
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STAGE 2, I'd say if you want it and have the money, get it and don't worry about it. I suspect the engineers at Ruger have tested it to destruction and are confident the decrease in top-strap thickness doesn't compromise the strength of the revolver.
In the event of an overloaded reload, Ruger isn't liable (you do read the print in the manuals that says "Do not use reloaded ammunition", right?"). And in any event, a load that takes apart a Clapp-edition GP-100 would probably have taken out a regular GP-100 or Blackhawk too. Contrary to popular opinion, Rugers aren't indestructable, and if you're shooting loads that are wearing out a .357, you should have gotten a .44...
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I figure the engineers know what they're doing.
I'm waiting for the blue version to come out myself.
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the top strap for all fixed sight GPs are like this. my 4" hasn't had a problem
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somebody post a pic!
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I just dont know whether it is enough metal to still be within the real of the academic or whether its thin enough to make a noticable difference as far as stretching or inadvertent abuse.
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That does appear to be a lot of metal removed, but I can't imagine that it is cause for alarm. The GP isn't indestructible with or without that metal removed so if you want this gun, and dont abuse it, I'd feel safe buying it.
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what part of it being that thin concerns you the flame cutting or just the over all stress from heavy loads.
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I wouldn't worry about it. As long as you are sticking to factory loaded or recommended loadings from published reloading manuals you should be fine. Going beyond that is asking for trouble, thin top strap or not. Quote:
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I don't worry about mine. But then again, I only shoot loads within spec.
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Unless you're loading your cases with substances best left inside a thermonuclear device, your Ruger will safely handle it. Besides, there is a way to tell if your loads are getting too hot for a Ruger....your wrist will snap & your forehead will develop a front-sight-shaped indention.....
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Nice looking revolver, gunluver. I'm wondering if the TALO version is actually stainless steel with a coating; stainless steel with a unique matte finish or carbon steel with a coating? Also, I've been looking at one at my local gun shop. They are asking $629.99 for one. Does that price seem to be a fair one?
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It's bead-blasted stainless according to Ruger.
I paid just over $600 for mine, so 629 isn't too far off.
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You are worrying over nothing. You could probably remove even more metal from the top strap and still have it be perfectly safe. It's a darn good looking gun and I bet the 3.5" barrel balances almost perfectly. I have a 4.2" blued GP100 and find it "just a tad" nose heavy. I feel is due to the full underlug. (One day, I may send it off to get slabsided or have the underlug cut.) It's not really a big deal thought and still feels better than most other .357 service wheelies.
Also, I give them kudos for using the old-style (Lett) factory rubber grips. I wonder if Hogue, TALO, or Ruger bought/copied the mold design? I know they aren't surplus rubber with new wood because they have the "WC" logo on the backstrap. (Lett out of business a few years ago, hence the switch to the standard Hogue Monogrip.) Regardless, I think most people will prefer it. The only way they could have done better is to have used the "compact grip" that came on the 3" and fixed sight models. (These were the ones that used SP101 insert panels.) I have a pair on my GP100 and think they are great.
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If there was any chance of this thing blowing off someone's hand, there's no way Ruger would have let it out the door.
They've been making some pretty good profits this year. No point in spending it all on lawyers.
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please dont tell me this is the way gps are going in general
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I bet even with the thinner top strap it's still stronger than anything S&W makes.
But, I like my guns as thick as a brick. I don't have to trickle my max loads because I know if I'm a few tenths of a grain over my GP can handle it. |
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Any pics of a blued one yet?
How are those SS one holding up for you guys?
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