Shocker!... News report about Bruce Lee Jennings...

ClydeFrog · September 18, 2012, 09:42 PM

The Orlando Florida ABC station; http://tinyurl.com/95pfy86 , reports that Bryco founder; Bruce Lee Jennings of central FL was busted by US federal LE agents for child **** charges.
The detailed news article states the company was sued over a gun's use in a incident for approx $24mil.

I'm not aware of the quality of these Bryco firearms but I've heard of the brand.
It's sad but these crimes take place from all types of people.

Clyde

zombieslayer · September 19, 2012, 01:02 AM

Yeah, I just read the local news and saw that he apparently has "admtted that he knew the children were victims of abuse".
I'm glad the Feds came in and took his sorry butt.
Hopefully, he'll get what's coming to him.

**Mike Irwin** · September 19, 2012, 07:22 AM

Note for everyone at the outset...

If your only contribution is moral outrage and a new and inventive way to punish the individual?

That's off topic and won't be permitted in the discussion.

Skans · September 19, 2012, 08:00 AM

I have a Jennings J-22. I never know the thing was named after the owner - Bruce Lee Jennings. I usually know the design and production histories of most of my firearms - this one somehow got neglected.

I just read the article - I'll tell you, I have to wonder if the Fed agencies are using this type of thing to shut down or investigate certain firearms manufacturers.

Here's some more information I found out doing a little digging:

Homeland Security investigators said they found hundreds of images and videos of child pornography on computers and hard drives belonging to 63-year-old Bruce Lee Jennings,

What the heck is Homeland Security doing investigating kiddy prn? I'm sorry, I'm having a hard time believing that this investigation and arrest was about kiddy prn.

Update: I just checked this out - apparently Homeland Security "ICE" does investigate child pornography.

ClydeFrog · September 19, 2012, 12:14 PM

It may be a bit off topic but the US Dept of Homeland Security is made up of many small & large federal LE agencies-offices.
From the US Secret Service to the US Border Patrol to the Federal Air Marshals Service.
Online or criminal activity with computers being a DHS mission isn't a real surprise. They may have the skills & resources to arrest/convict these kinds of criminals.
Id also say that 2A supporters or firearm industry members aren't being targeted or singled out. I'd speculate that for a formal federal LE investigation to be set up there'd be a lot of probable cause & material already.
FWIW: Jennings was sued, lost his company and wasn't doing very well in the gun business at the time of his federal arrest.

Clyde

Stressfire · September 19, 2012, 01:44 PM

link to story does not seem to be working

**Mike Irwin** · September 19, 2012, 02:11 PM

Tom has fixed the link. I must have missed something when I copied it.

KyJim · September 19, 2012, 06:07 PM

I noticed the article called him a "renowned gunmaker." I would think the better adjective would be "infamous."

zombieslayer · September 20, 2012, 09:37 AM

Mike- I apologize if my post was in any way offensive or was a reflection of "moral outrage". I was just commenting because the story was in my local news. I rarely post in the GD forum.
This has always been a great forum. I didn't realize that commenting on the crime was off topic.

jmortimer · September 20, 2012, 09:43 AM

"I noticed the article called him a "renowned gunmaker." I would think the better adjective would be "infamous."
I would say "inventive" - made cheap guns cheap. The whole Ontario California area cheap gun story is interesting.

**Mike Irwin** · September 20, 2012, 10:00 AM

"I didn't realize that commenting on the crime was off topic."

Generally it's not, but please read, again, exactly what I wrote in my first post.

Realistically, though, this is only peripherally related to firearms in that the alleged crime has nothing to do with firearms. As such, it would be very easy to stray off track.

If you're still unclear, send me a private message.

zombieslayer · September 20, 2012, 10:38 AM

Thanks, Mike. I understand. I just felt compelled to apologize for the faux pas.
I greatly enjoy and respect this forum. And it honestly is the way it is becausae of good, respectable, and fair moderators.

raftman · September 22, 2012, 01:40 AM

Quote:

I would say "inventive" - made cheap guns cheap.

Would inventive really be the right word? Seems like all of his guns were straight blowback designs, something that's been around for decades before Jennings was even born. Seems the only "twist" was to cut costs by using cheaper materials than had generally been done in the past, and lesser quality control than had been done in the past.

September 18, 2012, 09:42 PM	#1
ClydeFrog Junior member Join Date: May 1, 2010 Posts: 5,797	Shocker!... News report about Bruce Lee Jennings... The Orlando Florida ABC station; http://tinyurl.com/95pfy86 , reports that Bryco founder; Bruce Lee Jennings of central FL was busted by US federal LE agents for child **** charges. The detailed news article states the company was sued over a gun's use in a incident for approx $24mil. I'm not aware of the quality of these Bryco firearms but I've heard of the brand. It's sad but these crimes take place from all types of people. Clyde Last edited by Tom Servo; September 19, 2012 at 01:49 PM.

September 19, 2012, 01:02 AM	#2
zombieslayer Senior Member Join Date: September 11, 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 3,198	Yeah, I just read the local news and saw that he apparently has "admtted that he knew the children were victims of abuse". I'm glad the Feds came in and took his sorry butt. Hopefully, he'll get what's coming to him. __________________ "An angry prophet, denouncing the hypocrisies of our time"

September 19, 2012, 07:22 AM	#3
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 13, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 41,389	Note for everyone at the outset... If your only contribution is moral outrage and a new and inventive way to punish the individual? That's off topic and won't be permitted in the discussion. __________________ "The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.

September 19, 2012, 08:00 AM	#4
Skans Senior Member Join Date: November 20, 2008 Posts: 11,132	I have a Jennings J-22. I never know the thing was named after the owner - Bruce Lee Jennings. I usually know the design and production histories of most of my firearms - this one somehow got neglected. I just read the article - I'll tell you, I have to wonder if the Fed agencies are using this type of thing to shut down or investigate certain firearms manufacturers. Here's some more information I found out doing a little digging: Homeland Security investigators said they found hundreds of images and videos of child pornography on computers and hard drives belonging to 63-year-old Bruce Lee Jennings, What the heck is Homeland Security doing investigating kiddy prn? I'm sorry, I'm having a hard time believing that this investigation and arrest was about kiddy prn. Update: I just checked this out - apparently Homeland Security "ICE" does investigate child pornography. Last edited by Skans; September 19, 2012 at 09:58 AM.

September 19, 2012, 12:14 PM	#5
ClydeFrog Junior member Join Date: May 1, 2010 Posts: 5,797	Off topic but related... It may be a bit off topic but the US Dept of Homeland Security is made up of many small & large federal LE agencies-offices. From the US Secret Service to the US Border Patrol to the Federal Air Marshals Service. Online or criminal activity with computers being a DHS mission isn't a real surprise. They may have the skills & resources to arrest/convict these kinds of criminals. Id also say that 2A supporters or firearm industry members aren't being targeted or singled out. I'd speculate that for a formal federal LE investigation to be set up there'd be a lot of probable cause & material already. FWIW: Jennings was sued, lost his company and wasn't doing very well in the gun business at the time of his federal arrest. Clyde

September 19, 2012, 01:44 PM	#6
Stressfire Senior Member Join Date: June 16, 2011 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,497	link to story does not seem to be working __________________ "The best diplomat I know is a fully charged phaser bank" - Montgomery Scott

September 19, 2012, 02:11 PM	#7
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 13, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 41,389	Tom has fixed the link. I must have missed something when I copied it. __________________ "The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.

September 19, 2012, 06:07 PM	#8
KyJim Senior Member Join Date: July 26, 2005 Location: The Bluegrass Posts: 9,142	I noticed the article called him a "renowned gunmaker." I would think the better adjective would be "infamous."

September 20, 2012, 09:37 AM	#9
zombieslayer Senior Member Join Date: September 11, 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 3,198	Mike- I apologize if my post was in any way offensive or was a reflection of "moral outrage". I was just commenting because the story was in my local news. I rarely post in the GD forum. This has always been a great forum. I didn't realize that commenting on the crime was off topic. __________________ "An angry prophet, denouncing the hypocrisies of our time"

September 20, 2012, 09:43 AM	#10
jmortimer Junior member Join Date: January 24, 2010 Location: South West Riverside County California Posts: 2,763	"I noticed the article called him a "renowned gunmaker." I would think the better adjective would be "infamous." I would say "inventive" - made cheap guns cheap. The whole Ontario California area cheap gun story is interesting.

September 20, 2012, 10:00 AM	#11
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 13, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 41,389	"I didn't realize that commenting on the crime was off topic." Generally it's not, but please read, again, exactly what I wrote in my first post. Realistically, though, this is only peripherally related to firearms in that the alleged crime has nothing to do with firearms. As such, it would be very easy to stray off track. If you're still unclear, send me a private message. __________________ "The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.

September 20, 2012, 10:38 AM	#12
zombieslayer Senior Member Join Date: September 11, 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 3,198	Thanks, Mike. I understand. I just felt compelled to apologize for the faux pas. I greatly enjoy and respect this forum. And it honestly is the way it is becausae of good, respectable, and fair moderators. __________________ "An angry prophet, denouncing the hypocrisies of our time"