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Old January 13, 2012, 02:02 AM   #1
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bullet casing powder measure .50 Hawken style?

Anyone know a bullet casing that would be a good powder measure for CVA .50 Hawken? Does a list exist for all the bp cal.?

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Old January 13, 2012, 02:11 AM   #2
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Hello, cloud8a. The Dixie Gun-Works catalog has a list of various ctg. case powder measurements in the back..everything from .22 l.r. up to..?
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Old January 13, 2012, 02:19 AM   #3
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Is it on their site or in the hard copy?
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Old January 13, 2012, 02:22 AM   #4
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I would like to just pick up some used brass off the range and make that my measure. Just would like to know correlating cal.
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Old January 13, 2012, 05:44 AM   #5
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50-90 or 50-100 Sharps will work.
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Old January 13, 2012, 06:54 AM   #6
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I picked up some brass on the range and measured how much Goex FFFg they held when used as a powder measure.

Here's my list.

.45-70 82.1 grains.
.30-.06 70.7 grains
7.62 x 57R (Mosin Nagant) 64.6
.30-30 45.2
.44 Mag 38.9
7.62 x 39 (AK47) 35.3
.223 31.0
.357 Mag 26.1

If you want 90 grains, you could use a .30-30 case twice.

A .30-.06 case should throw a fairly decent target load for patched round ball in .50 cal.
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Old January 13, 2012, 07:14 AM   #7
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50-90 or 50-100 Sharps will work.
The problem is that you are very unlikely to find this brass laying around at a public range and if you order the brass just to use it as a powder measure, you may as well have just spent the money on an adjustable powder measure.

You are a lot more likely to find a .375 H&H or a .300 Win mag case which should meter around 90 to 100 grains according to their capacities in grains of H20.
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Old January 13, 2012, 09:32 AM   #8
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Here is a list of cases of every kind & the amount of water they will hold. Water is very, very close to Black powder in volume & density so it's a pretty good indication of capacity by volume for B/P.
I have a .50 Hawken carbine ( 24" 1:48 twist BBL) & it likes a 55gr charge with a PRB for plinking & a 95 Gr load for maximum power.

Case name / H2O capacity
.14 Hornet 12
.17 Hornet 14
.17 Rem 27
.204 Ruger 33
.22 Hornet 14
.22 K-Hornet 15
.218 Bee 18
.22 Rem Jet 18
.221 Rem 21
.222 Rem 27
.223 Rem 31
.222 Rem Mag 32
5.6x50R 34
.219 Zipper 34
.225 Win 41
.22-250 Rem 43
.220 Swift 48
.223 WSSM 53
.22-06 65
.22-15 Stevens 17
.22 Sav 35
6x47 33
6x52R Bret. 36
6x70R 39
.243 Win 54
6 Rem 55
.240 Wea Mag 65
6x62R 67
.236 USN 51
.240 Fl. N.E. 58
.25-20 WCF 19
.256 Win 22
.25-21 Stevens 25
.25-25 Stevens 29
.25-36 Marlin 37
.25-35 WCF 37
.25 Rem 42
.250 Sav 46
.257 Roberts 56
.25-06 Rem 66
.257 Wea Mag 84
6.5x70R 39
6.5 Jap. 48
6.5x52 Carcano 49
6.5x53R 49
6.5x54 M-S(.256) 50
.260 Rem 53
6.5x55 57
6.5x57(R) 58
6.5 Rem Mag 68
.264 Win Mag 82
.270 REN 16
.270 Win 68
.270 Wea 83
.28-30 Stevens 37
7-30 Waters 45
7x72R 54
7-08 Rem 56
7x57(R) Mauser 59
.284 Win 66
.280 Rem 67
7x65R 68
7 WSM 81
7 Rem Mag 84
.30 Carbine 21
.30-357 AeT 25
.30-30 45
.30 Rem 46
.303 Sav 48
.300 Sav 52
.307 Win 54
7.62 NATO 54
.308 Win 56
.30 Fl.NE Purdey 58
.30-40 U.S. 58
.30-06 U.S. 69
.300 H&H 86
.300 Win Mag 89
.30 Fl. H&H 90
.300 Wea Mag 99
.30-378 130
7.62x54R 64
.303 Brit 57
.375/303 W-R 62
.32-20 WCF 22
7.65 Mauser 58
8x72R 59
.32-40 Ballard 41
8x50R Lebel 66
8x57(R) Mauser 62
8-06 70
8 Rem Mag 98
.318 W-R 69
.333 Jeffery 86
.33 WCF 63
.338-06 70
.338 Win Mag 86
.340 Wea Mag 98
.338-378 132
.348 Win 75
9x57(R) Mauser 62
.357 Mag 27
.357 Max 34
.357/44 B&D 35
.400/350 Rigby 78
.350 ME Guide 2 49
.35 Rem 51
.356 Win 57
.358 Win 57
.35 WCF 69
.35 Whelen 71
.35 Greevy 72
.350 Rem Mag 73
.358 Norma Mag 88
9.3x57 Mauser 64
9.3x54R Finn. 65
9.3x72R 67
9.3x62 77
9.3x74R 82
.360 No.2 NE 111
.375 Win 49
.38-56 Win 62
.375 2½ N.E. 67
.375-06 73
.375 H&H 95
.375 Fl. Mag 97
.375 Ruger 100
.369 N.E. 102
.378 Wea Mag 136
.38-55 Ballard 52
.38-72 Win 74
.38-40 WCF 40
.400 Whelen 75
.405 Win 78
.400 Jeffery 117
.450/400 NE 3¼ 123
.416 Taylor 92
.416 Rem Mag 107
.416 Rigby 130
.416 Wea Mag 134
.423 OKH 77
.404 Jeffery 113
.44-40 WCF 40
.44 Spl 34
.44 Rem Mag 39
.444 Marlin 69
.45 Colt 42
.454 Casull 47
.45-70 U.S. 79
.450 Marlin 74
.45-90 2.4" 90
.458 Win Mag 94
.458 Lott 108
.450 3¼ N.E. 129
.460 Wea Mag 140
.465 N.E. 144
.470 N.E. 146
.475 3¼ N.E. 137
.50-110 109
.50 BMG 293

With a bit of luck you'll find something suitable for you out of the list.
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Old January 13, 2012, 10:00 AM   #9
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Here's another list of the case capacities. Simply fill the empty case to the mouth and wipe off the excess powder. The following gives a few common cases and the amount of black powder they will hold.

Cartridge Grains
.22 LR = 5
.320 ACP = 7
.380 ACP = 10
.30 cal Carbine = 20
.38 Special = 23
.357 Mag = 27
.45 Auto = 26
.44 Colt = 35
.45 Colt = 41
.38-40 = 40
.45-70 = 83

9mm – 13.3
40 S&W – 19.3
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Old January 13, 2012, 10:20 AM   #10
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I don't understand wanting to mix an old traditional style with modern stuff.
Just go to the hardware store and buy some copper tubing. Squish one end in the vice, drill a hole for a string in the squished part, add powder amount you want, note how far up the tube it comes and cut.
With a little use it will get appropriately grungy and look old and will serve you for many years.
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Old January 13, 2012, 11:50 AM   #11
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Old January 13, 2012, 07:51 PM   #12
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I don't understand wanting to mix an old traditional style with modern stuff.
Just go to the hardware store and buy some copper tubing. Squish one end in the vice, drill a hole for a string in the squished part, add powder amount you want, note how far up the tube it comes and cut.
With a little use it will get appropriately grungy and look old and will serve you for many years.
Yes but your method involves SPENDING MONEY.shudder
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Old January 13, 2012, 09:17 PM   #13
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How common was copper tubing back in the day? Heck just make one out of antler or drill a hole in a stick. Would be more period correct.
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Old January 14, 2012, 02:52 AM   #14
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Here is a list of cases of every kind & the amount of water they will hold. Water is very, very close to Black powder in volume & density so it's a pretty good indication of capacity by volume for B/P.
Excellent! I will print these measurements out and work with them. I know I could go down to Cabela's any day of the week and purchase a brass powder measure (I actually have a plastic T measure). But I don't get to shoot much these days and when I do there are free measures laying all over my local range. I'm not in any big hurry or looking for what I already know exists. I just like discovering different things and ways. Today its the used bullet casing for a powder measure. Tomorrow it might be a drilled stick for one. Between now and then I am gonna grill some chicken thighs. Thanks guys for the info.
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