H&R .38 Safety Hammerless - Info, Please . . .

TejanoViejo · August 27, 2013, 03:29 PM

I recently was offered an opportunity to obtain my first H&R break-top revolver (see photo below), which was purported to be a Safety Hamerless. The last Pat. Date on the barrel address is: APRIL 7 1897. Also, marked: .38 CAL- S & W CTGF. Serial # 71042 on outside bottom of grip frame w/factory option MoP grips. Reported to be owned by a lady in lightly used/near unused condition.

Any/all info would be be greatly appreciated as I have nothing more than as indicated above:

1. confirm model
2. date of manufacture
3. value

Thanks, in advance . . .

TejanoViejo

Magnum Wheel Man · August 27, 2013, 03:40 PM

I'm not as up on the H&R's as some of the other top breaks... just a hunch, I question weather the MOP grips are original factory... ( most I've seen were lighter in color, & had a smaller radius on the top ) the gun looks pretty nice cosmetically can you confirm the gun functions correctly ( that would be important in valuing )

Gaucho Gringo · August 27, 2013, 09:45 PM

I have one like yours only with the black rubber grips. If marked with on the side of the barrel 38 CAL- S & W CTG it is for smokeless powder. As far as value I bought mine earlier this year for $55.00 on Gunbroker. I won 3 guns that day for less than $160.00, the above H&R, an H&A 32 S&W top break and an IJ 32 S&W top break. Everybody must have been otherwise occupied with the 4th of July.

McShooty · August 28, 2013, 11:58 AM

Unusual. Most of the ladies who owned guns like this were in quite well-used condition.

James K · August 28, 2013, 03:24 PM

Sure it is H&R? It looks more like a Hopkins & Allen.

Jim

TejanoViejo · August 29, 2013, 09:37 AM

Jim - it's marked Harrington & Richardson on the barrel.

August 27, 2013, 03:40 PM	#2
Magnum Wheel Man Senior Member Join Date: July 26, 2006 Location: Southern Minnesota Posts: 9,333	I'm not as up on the H&R's as some of the other top breaks... just a hunch, I question weather the MOP grips are original factory... ( most I've seen were lighter in color, & had a smaller radius on the top ) the gun looks pretty nice cosmetically can you confirm the gun functions correctly ( that would be important in valuing ) __________________ In life you either make dust or eat dust...

August 27, 2013, 09:45 PM	#3
Gaucho Gringo Senior Member Join Date: May 17, 2007 Location: Vancouver, WA Posts: 366	I have one like yours only with the black rubber grips. If marked with on the side of the barrel 38 CAL- S & W CTG it is for smokeless powder. As far as value I bought mine earlier this year for $55.00 on Gunbroker. I won 3 guns that day for less than $160.00, the above H&R, an H&A 32 S&W top break and an IJ 32 S&W top break. Everybody must have been otherwise occupied with the 4th of July. __________________ 357 Taurus Gaucho, 22 Heritage RR, 2-Pietta 1858 44 NMA Remingtons, Pietta, Euroarms & ASM 36 1851 Navies, 31 Uberti 1849, 12 ga H&R Topper, 16 Ga Western Field, 43 Spanish Remington Rolling Block, 44 ASM Colt Walker, High Point C9 9mm, Winchester 1906 22, Rossi 62 22 rifle, Uberti 1860, H&A & IJ 32 S&W BreakTop, 36 Euroarms 1858, 32 H&R 04, 22mag NAA SS BP revolver, .44 Rodgers & Spencer, IJ 38 S&W BreakTop, IJ 22 Sealed 8

August 28, 2013, 11:58 AM	#4
McShooty Senior Member Join Date: January 4, 2012 Location: Northern Missouri Posts: 480	Unusual. Most of the ladies who owned guns like this were in quite well-used condition.

August 28, 2013, 03:24 PM	#5
James K Member In Memoriam Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 24,383	Sure it is H&R? It looks more like a Hopkins & Allen. Jim

August 29, 2013, 09:37 AM	#6
TejanoViejo Junior Member Join Date: July 20, 2013 Posts: 5	Jim - it's marked Harrington & Richardson on the barrel.