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July 27, 2014, 10:31 PM | #26 | |
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July 27, 2014, 11:48 PM | #27 |
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I've heard of some store clerks and delivery folks who have been let go after thwarting a robbery or assault, can't cite a place or time, may be apocryphal.
Part of me says, "I hope the hospital fires him", thusly creating a national revulsion against stupid gun policies, but he should keep his job if he still wants it, says the other part of me. |
July 28, 2014, 07:20 AM | #28 | |
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http://gunssavelives.net/blog/doctor...d-by-hospital/ Color me optimistic, but this could be a turn-around for some corporate "wisdom" on firearms.
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If the doctor does get into any trouble with the hospital over this incident, he should preface every response he makes with this phrase:
"If I had followed the policy, I would be dead now, and most likely so would a lot of other innocent people." He should reiterate that every time he answer one of their questions, and every time he answers a question from the media. Over and over. Enough repetition, and it might get through some thick heads. |
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The hospital already released a statement saying they were happily awaiting his return to practice. So it looks like he will do OK there.
In addition, it appears he pulled off the whole thing with a Seecamp .32 that he pulled after the bad guy grazed the side of his head with a round. Some good nerves there. |
August 2, 2014, 09:09 AM | #32 |
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If he is allowed to remain, I wonder if the Hospital will let him continue to carry his firearm against Policy?
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August 2, 2014, 11:41 AM | #33 |
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I hope the hospital changes its policy...and as noted, that other businesses do as well.
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My guess is Metal detectors and increased security to start, then on to possible random searches of Office space and personal belongings. |
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I keep watching this thread for updates and every time I click on it, I remember the quote from the news report to the effect that the hospital was reviewing their security procedures and policies. It sounded almost as if they were going to revise their "no-guns" policy to "no guns unless you have a carry license" - but wishful thinking only works in children's stories...
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According to PA law. 5122. Weapons or implements for escape. (a) Offenses defined.-- (1) A person commits a misdemeanor of the first degree if he unlawfully introduces within a detention facility, correctional institution or mental hospital, or unlawfully provides an inmate thereof with any weapon, tool, implement, or other thing which may be used for escape. Was this Doctor in violation of State Law as well as Company Policy as he carried his firearm into a "mental Hospital"? Is this case similar to the guy in Texas that just killed two bad guys in a Bar. Texas law states it is Illegal to carry in a bar, PA law says it's illegal to carry in a Mental Hospital, is there a difference? |
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Many hospitals may have a mental health or behavior health wards but are not "mental hospitals." The definition of "mental" hospital is important. So no, he was not in violation of state law. |
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January 20, 2015, 02:14 PM | #40 |
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Response to Vanya.
http://m.wmur.com/news/clerk-fired-a...obber/22454840
http://www.today.com/id/44483817/ns/...armacist-sues/ http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes...d-robbery.html Happens more than you might think. I should ask: would the mods have issue with a corporate "calling out"? I'll just start alphabetically. Hmm, this topic is thread worthy if it doesn't already exist... Autozone Shell Walgreens Please feel free to add to the list. It just may influence how some of us spend our money. Not that I'm calling for anything like that. Just good to be an educated consumer. |
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Vanya has asked for documentation of a very specific set of facts: (1) company publicly praises the employee for his defensive actions; and (2) company fires the employee for violation of company policy. You cite examples only of the employee being fired.
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Well, since this old thread has now been resurrected, I will say this:
Just because the doctor was working in the hospital, that doesn't mean he was an employee of the hospital. While the landscape is changing, historically, doctors are either self employed or work for/with a group of doctors and simply have privileges to work in/admit patients to hospitals. You obviously cannot fire someone who is not your employee. Therefore, he may, by law, only have been able to be treated as a visitor that violated the weapons policy of the building he was in...at most (in most states) a misdemeanor charge. |
January 20, 2015, 08:39 PM | #43 |
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The link to the hospital's policy doesnt work anymore... but here it is:
http://www.mercyhealth.org/about/ven...de-of-conduct/ It says "vendors". I'm guessing he was some form of contractor? This case is really a boon for us.. CC saves the days for most, and "no firearms" policies shown to be utterly useless. |
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