Winchester 12 gauge Target for HD

Shadi Khalil · August 26, 2010, 08:33 PM

I have a box of Winchester Target 12 gauge, will they work for home defense?

jrothWA · August 26, 2010, 08:52 PM

7 - 1/2 size shot. Actual diameter is : .017 -7.5 = 0.095"

In a close -in situation, (room area) they are good in a pinch.

Going to a heavier shot, #2 & #4 is better and then move up to the buckshot,

00 (0.33"), O (.3") , #1 -#4 (0.25")

For HD, best use the buckshot.

Rampant_Colt · August 26, 2010, 08:55 PM

Are you too cheap to spring for a box of buckshot?
How much is your life worth to you?

Will they work? Perhaps..

Buckshot for bad guys
Birdshot for birdies
Repeat

jmortimer · August 26, 2010, 09:43 PM

If you consider the FBI ballistic gelatin testing guidelines then the minimum would be #4 buckshot which barely makes the grade.

Shadi Khalil · August 27, 2010, 07:04 AM

Quote:

Are you too cheap to spring for a box of buckshot?
How much is your life worth to you?

Take it easy. This is my first shotgun.

Thanks for the feedback guys.

Homerboy · August 27, 2010, 07:13 AM

Buck will certainly work better, but it will also penetrate walls in your home and enter other rooms. You'd better hit the guy with that buck, or he better not be standing in front of your kid's room if you miss. For what it is worth, I am a retired cop and I HAVE seen fatalities from birdshot wounds. At 15 feet, the blast is hideous. Faster follow up shots, too.

demigod · August 27, 2010, 01:17 PM

They tested this stuff on Personal Defense TV. Birdshot offered the least amount of penetration... followed closely by 55 gr FMJ from a .223 carbine.

Buck shot and all pistol rounds penetrated all three walls and exited the simulated house they had set up for the penetration test.

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Shadi Khalil Senior Member Join Date: September 23, 2006 Location: Alexandria, VA Posts: 5,210	Winchester 12 gauge Target for HD I have a box of Winchester Target 12 gauge, will they work for home defense?

August 26, 2010, 08:52 PM	#2
jrothWA Senior Member Join Date: November 11, 2006 Posts: 2,519	Target loads are nomally... 7 - 1/2 size shot. Actual diameter is : .017 -7.5 = 0.095" In a close -in situation, (room area) they are good in a pinch. Going to a heavier shot, #2 & #4 is better and then move up to the buckshot, 00 (0.33"), O (.3") , #1 -#4 (0.25") For HD, best use the buckshot.

August 26, 2010, 09:43 PM	#4
jmortimer Junior member Join Date: January 24, 2010 Location: South West Riverside County California Posts: 2,763	If you consider the FBI ballistic gelatin testing guidelines then the minimum would be #4 buckshot which barely makes the grade.

August 27, 2010, 07:13 AM	#6
Homerboy Junior member Join Date: June 16, 2004 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 1,320	Buck will certainly work better, but it will also penetrate walls in your home and enter other rooms. You'd better hit the guy with that buck, or he better not be standing in front of your kid's room if you miss. For what it is worth, I am a retired cop and I HAVE seen fatalities from birdshot wounds. At 15 feet, the blast is hideous. Faster follow up shots, too.

August 27, 2010, 01:17 PM	#7
demigod Junior member Join Date: March 13, 2008 Location: AZ Posts: 1,129	They tested this stuff on Personal Defense TV. Birdshot offered the least amount of penetration... followed closely by 55 gr FMJ from a .223 carbine. Buck shot and all pistol rounds penetrated all three walls and exited the simulated house they had set up for the penetration test.