IDPA sight legality question

Patrick Graham · May 12, 2002, 06:29 PM

I've got Ashley Outdoors 24/7 Pro Express Sights on my Kimber Custom.

The IDPA rulebook says a "Change of sights to another notch and post type" is legal.

Do you guys think these sights are "notch and post"?

Here's some pictures of them. -

http://www.ashleyoutdoors.com/

Jim Watson · May 12, 2002, 08:03 PM

From the rules' FAQ section:

"CAN I USE EXPRESS SIGHTS? Yes, they are considered to be conventional notch and post sights."

So, while I don't consider them very conventional on a pistol, they are OK with the rules; so come on down and shoot over them.

Mayonaise · May 14, 2002, 01:34 PM

Jim,

Good shooting at the GA state match last week. Guess I didn't get a chance to introduce myself. I was CSO for stages 3 & 4.

BTW, Ken Hackathorn highly recommended AO Express sights when I took his class last year. A friend had them and I gave them a try. I'd say they were very fast for 5-7 yard targets. I didn't like them for more distant 15+ yard targets. That front dot gets very big as the target gets smaller.

Mark

Ricky T · May 14, 2002, 02:10 PM

Mayonaise was the chief Nazi on stage 3 and 4.

Jim, Mikey has something of yours that you left behind at the range. Please contact him.

Ricky T
Rangemaster

Jim Watson · May 14, 2002, 04:53 PM

Thanks, guys, I had a good time. You always have a good match there - my 3rd Georgia State. I have contacted Mikey and will recover my stuff at his club's match the 25th.

A friend of mine put AOs on his 1991A1 a while back. His accuracy took a downturn until he learned how to use them, now he is hitting as well as before at all usual IDPA ranges, and is noticeably faster.

I am now running a Hi-Viz front and a black Bomar rear. It is fast, but a little coarse for half targets at 20 yards, but why should that matter? Right, Ricky, Mark?

Mayonaise · May 14, 2002, 05:05 PM

I feel your pain on those 20yrd half targets. That was tough. I use EGW fiber optic front site on my Kimber. I like it. Small dot but still pretty fast.

Mark

Ricky T · May 14, 2002, 05:09 PM

Mayonaise wrote:

"I feel your pain on those 20yrd half targets. That was tough. I use EGW fiber optic front site on my Kimber. "

Gamer ! Fiber optics are for cheaters.

Jim,
Those 20 yds half targets were tough on everybody. I had a miss, even with my 0.10 wide Heinie front. Hell, even one of the D-boys had a miss.

John Forsyth · May 14, 2002, 08:56 PM

Quote:

Ricky T wrote:
Gamer ! Fiber optics are for cheaters.

Oh give me a break.

I like the EGW front FO sight. I have one on my cannon 10mm that I shoot now in ESP (especially soft pistol).

I wish I could have made your match, it sounded like fun.

Ricky T · May 15, 2002, 05:52 AM

John,
Everyone knows that ESP is the official cheater division.

Too bad you missed the match, Mikey made it and had a great time even though he got spanked pretty badly (not by me). He beat me by a few seconds.

May 12, 2002, 06:29 PM	#1
Patrick Graham Junior member Join Date: January 18, 1999 Location: Kokomo, Indiana USA Posts: 674	IDPA sight legality question I've got Ashley Outdoors 24/7 Pro Express Sights on my Kimber Custom. The IDPA rulebook says a "Change of sights to another notch and post type" is legal. Do you guys think these sights are "notch and post"? Here's some pictures of them. - http://www.ashleyoutdoors.com/

May 14, 2002, 02:10 PM	#4
Ricky T Senior Member Join Date: July 19, 1999 Location: ATL, GA Posts: 197	Hey Jim Mayonaise was the chief Nazi on stage 3 and 4. Jim, Mikey has something of yours that you left behind at the range. Please contact him. Ricky T Rangemaster __________________ "Less yacking and more cacking" SDH

May 14, 2002, 05:09 PM	#7
Ricky T Senior Member Join Date: July 19, 1999 Location: ATL, GA Posts: 197	Mayonaise wrote: "I feel your pain on those 20yrd half targets. That was tough. I use EGW fiber optic front site on my Kimber. " Gamer ! Fiber optics are for cheaters. Jim, Those 20 yds half targets were tough on everybody. I had a miss, even with my 0.10 wide Heinie front. Hell, even one of the D-boys had a miss. __________________ "Less yacking and more cacking" SDH

May 15, 2002, 05:52 AM	#9
Ricky T Senior Member Join Date: July 19, 1999 Location: ATL, GA Posts: 197	John, Everyone knows that ESP is the official cheater division. Too bad you missed the match, Mikey made it and had a great time even though he got spanked pretty badly (not by me). He beat me by a few seconds. __________________ "Less yacking and more cacking" SDH

May 12, 2002, 08:03 PM	#2
Jim Watson Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2001 Location: Alabama Posts: 18,543	From the rules' FAQ section: "CAN I USE EXPRESS SIGHTS? Yes, they are considered to be conventional notch and post sights." So, while I don't consider them very conventional on a pistol, they are OK with the rules; so come on down and shoot over them.

May 14, 2002, 01:34 PM	#3
Mayonaise Junior Member Join Date: May 14, 2002 Posts: 6	Jim, Good shooting at the GA state match last week. Guess I didn't get a chance to introduce myself. I was CSO for stages 3 & 4. BTW, Ken Hackathorn highly recommended AO Express sights when I took his class last year. A friend had them and I gave them a try. I'd say they were very fast for 5-7 yard targets. I didn't like them for more distant 15+ yard targets. That front dot gets very big as the target gets smaller. Mark

May 14, 2002, 04:53 PM	#5
Jim Watson Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2001 Location: Alabama Posts: 18,543	Thanks, guys, I had a good time. You always have a good match there - my 3rd Georgia State. I have contacted Mikey and will recover my stuff at his club's match the 25th. A friend of mine put AOs on his 1991A1 a while back. His accuracy took a downturn until he learned how to use them, now he is hitting as well as before at all usual IDPA ranges, and is noticeably faster. I am now running a Hi-Viz front and a black Bomar rear. It is fast, but a little coarse for half targets at 20 yards, but why should that matter? Right, Ricky, Mark?

May 14, 2002, 05:05 PM	#6
Mayonaise Junior Member Join Date: May 14, 2002 Posts: 6	I feel your pain on those 20yrd half targets. That was tough. I use EGW fiber optic front site on my Kimber. I like it. Small dot but still pretty fast. Mark