Another SAFE Act Unintended Consequence-- Illegal to transport an AR15 with Ammo - Page 2

Nick S. · March 6, 2013, 08:58 PM

@ BGutzman. Believe me, we are fighting this thing tooth & nail. I send letters every other day. I went to my state Capitol to join in a protest last week. I yelled at 3 of my elected jerks from the side lines last Sunday during the St. Patricks Day Parade in my town. I was wearing my NRA hat & Chuck Schumer came over to shake my hand. I refused. The other 2 saw me & quickly turned away. I call & thank any one in office who is on board for repealing this NY SAFE Act. Last Monday I joined yet another club on Long Island fighting the good fight for New Yorkers who are very active politically. I've been an NRA member since the mid 70s.

mayosligo · March 6, 2013, 10:47 PM

Give em hell Nick S.

Nick S. · March 7, 2013, 09:42 PM

Thanks for the support Mayosligo.

rebs · March 8, 2013, 07:55 AM

I talked with a State Trooper and with a County Sheriff about this and they both had the same feelings, that this new law is very difficult to interpret and enforce if they were to enforce it. This part starts now, this part starts next month, this part starts nex year etc.. They both felt it will be found unconstitutional by the courts. Neither had a big interest in going out of their way enforcing it as they are carrying full magazines of ammo instead of the 7 round limit and they have not been exempt as of yet, so they themselves are in violation. Their best advice was when going to a range or sportmans club to drive legally, no speeding, stop for all traffic lights and stop signs, make a complete stop before turning right on a red light, etc. and they will have no reason to stop you. From what I gather they are kind of like taking a wait and see what happens attitude about the new laws.

mete · March 10, 2013, 11:14 AM

I came upon an interview of a Trooper but turned it off shortly because he , like the rest of us ,was too confused about it to explain it to the rest of us !!

The idea to reduce our cartridges thus reducing our chance of survival is absurd and will be an often broken law.
It's a good fight ,keep at it !

Mauserlance · February 4, 2014, 04:57 PM

NY & CA. Successfully making criminals out of law abiding citizens.

It's only a matter of time before patriots emerge b

**44 AMP** · February 4, 2014, 07:55 PM

Quote:

It's only a matter of time before patriots emerge..

The patriots are always with us. Right now, some of them are the ones fighting this in court. Others are the ones spreading the news.

publius42 · February 5, 2014, 06:52 AM

Maxb49 said:

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Thank you Brian. Sadly, everything Brian said is true. Tresmond Law will be publishing soon a full list of the consequences this bill has on gun owners.

Publishing where, may I ask?

The reason for my question is that I recalled liking the Tresmond Law page on Facebook a while back so I went over there to find the latest. I found a rather neglected page that was created last October. This is strange, because I quoted from the Tresmond Law Facebook page on another forum last April, before it existed.

I decided to go to the horse's mouth and went to:

http://www.tresmondlaw.com/

I got this:

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403 - Forbidden Error
You are not allowed to access this address.

I make my living on the net and a disappearing/reappearing Facebook page and locked-down website are not the best ways to reach the public. Just sayin'.

Brian Pfleuger · February 5, 2014, 09:16 AM

I'm very disappointed in the Tresmond team. When this first happened they were all over. Jim Tresmond called me several times and he or Max sent me a couple emails. Max was active here and updated us regularly.

Now, they've dropped off the face of the earth. I'm sure they got sick of all the nonlawyers telling them how to do their jobs but simple updates would be nice. I sent a PM to Max several months ago and got no response.

Their team posts occasionally on a NY forum but the latest are just cryptic sorts of "Yes we 're working but it's a secret." and even that is weeks ago.

Al Norris · February 5, 2014, 09:58 AM

I received the same treatment, Brian.

Some PM's, emails, a couple of calls. Then ... ... ... ... Crickets.

Since their work is being done within the State level courts, I can't even track what is happening, if anything.

LancelotLink · February 6, 2014, 03:11 PM

You can track New York Cases filed in State Supreme (Trial Level) court at this link.

https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/webcivil/FCASMain

Searching by attorney last name is usually sufficent

publius42 · February 6, 2014, 05:32 PM

Even if the last name is b49?

Al Norris · February 6, 2014, 10:26 PM

Lancelot, while the NYS system is much easier to navigate than before, it still tells me nothing. You still don't have access to the filed documents. I see some motions were made... Um, what motions? Doesn't say. Shows the appearance dates, including future appearances. Still doesn't tell me a lot.

Simply put, without more, there's really no way I can update my case list.

March 6, 2013, 10:47 PM	#27
mayosligo Senior Member Join Date: February 16, 2006 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 301	Another SAFE Act Unintended Consequence-- Illegal to transport an AR15 with Ammo Give em hell Nick S.

March 10, 2013, 11:14 AM	#30
mete Senior Member Join Date: June 14, 2004 Location: NY State Posts: 6,575	I came upon an interview of a Trooper but turned it off shortly because he , like the rest of us ,was too confused about it to explain it to the rest of us !! The idea to reduce our cartridges thus reducing our chance of survival is absurd and will be an often broken law. It's a good fight ,keep at it ! __________________ And Watson , bring your revolver !

February 6, 2014, 03:11 PM	#36
LancelotLink Member Join Date: February 27, 2013 Posts: 32	You can track New York Cases filed in State Supreme (Trial Level) court at this link. https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/webcivil/FCASMain Searching by attorney last name is usually sufficent __________________ Lancelot Link Secret Chimp at your service

March 6, 2013, 08:58 PM	#26
Nick S. Senior Member Join Date: September 4, 2010 Location: New York Posts: 152	@ BGutzman. Believe me, we are fighting this thing tooth & nail. I send letters every other day. I went to my state Capitol to join in a protest last week. I yelled at 3 of my elected jerks from the side lines last Sunday during the St. Patricks Day Parade in my town. I was wearing my NRA hat & Chuck Schumer came over to shake my hand. I refused. The other 2 saw me & quickly turned away. I call & thank any one in office who is on board for repealing this NY SAFE Act. Last Monday I joined yet another club on Long Island fighting the good fight for New Yorkers who are very active politically. I've been an NRA member since the mid 70s.

March 7, 2013, 09:42 PM	#28
Nick S. Senior Member Join Date: September 4, 2010 Location: New York Posts: 152	Thanks for the support Mayosligo.

March 8, 2013, 07:55 AM	#29
rebs Senior Member Join Date: January 10, 2012 Posts: 3,881	I talked with a State Trooper and with a County Sheriff about this and they both had the same feelings, that this new law is very difficult to interpret and enforce if they were to enforce it. This part starts now, this part starts next month, this part starts nex year etc.. They both felt it will be found unconstitutional by the courts. Neither had a big interest in going out of their way enforcing it as they are carrying full magazines of ammo instead of the 7 round limit and they have not been exempt as of yet, so they themselves are in violation. Their best advice was when going to a range or sportmans club to drive legally, no speeding, stop for all traffic lights and stop signs, make a complete stop before turning right on a red light, etc. and they will have no reason to stop you. From what I gather they are kind of like taking a wait and see what happens attitude about the new laws.

February 4, 2014, 04:57 PM	#31
Mauserlance Member Join Date: February 2, 2014 Posts: 25	NY & CA. Successfully making criminals out of law abiding citizens. It's only a matter of time before patriots emerge b

February 5, 2014, 09:16 AM	#34
Brian Pfleuger Moderator Emeritus Join Date: June 25, 2008 Location: Austin, CO Posts: 19,578	I'm very disappointed in the Tresmond team. When this first happened they were all over. Jim Tresmond called me several times and he or Max sent me a couple emails. Max was active here and updated us regularly. Now, they've dropped off the face of the earth. I'm sure they got sick of all the nonlawyers telling them how to do their jobs but simple updates would be nice. I sent a PM to Max several months ago and got no response. Their team posts occasionally on a NY forum but the latest are just cryptic sorts of "Yes we 're working but it's a secret." and even that is weeks ago.

February 5, 2014, 09:58 AM	#35
Al Norris Moderator Emeritus Join Date: June 29, 2000 Location: Rupert, Idaho Posts: 9,660	I received the same treatment, Brian. Some PM's, emails, a couple of calls. Then ... ... ... ... Crickets. Since their work is being done within the State level courts, I can't even track what is happening, if anything.

February 6, 2014, 05:32 PM	#37
publius42 Senior Member Join Date: February 9, 2002 Posts: 1,936	Even if the last name is b49?

February 6, 2014, 10:26 PM	#38
Al Norris Moderator Emeritus Join Date: June 29, 2000 Location: Rupert, Idaho Posts: 9,660	Lancelot, while the NYS system is much easier to navigate than before, it still tells me nothing. You still don't have access to the filed documents. I see some motions were made... Um, what motions? Doesn't say. Shows the appearance dates, including future appearances. Still doesn't tell me a lot. Simply put, without more, there's really no way I can update my case list.