Correct Terminology - Page 5

Falcon5NZ · August 31, 2009, 12:43 AM

Yea, they may see it differently differently. They're still pests though. And what Skans is saying makes sense. Maybe there is no clear cut line between when a firearm is a tool and when it's a weapon.

**Shane Tuttle** · August 31, 2009, 09:58 PM

Looks like by the very definition of a weapon is an item used to destroy something....those animals are being destroyed, yes?

I'm not disagreeing a firearm can't be used as a tool. I'm arguing the point that the term primary purpose of manufacture is being overlooked. Firearms are made to shoot a projectile for the intent of punching holes in something. They CAN be used for other purposes as a tool, but again, the primary reason is the key issue here.

It's as clear as a sunny day in Denver...to me anyway....

Skan21 · August 31, 2009, 10:42 PM

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Firearms are made to shoot a projectile for the intent of punching holes in something.

Not neccesarily meaning something alive, though. I can punch paper all day and nothing was harmed. Those crazy looking Anshutz rifles for instance. Firearms, but not designed to be used on people. I love being the devil's advocate.....

**Shane Tuttle** · September 1, 2009, 07:28 PM

Who said destroying something had to be a living thing, Skan21?

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I love being the devil's advocate.....

No problem with that. This whole thread started out with a simple question yet opposing statements being hashed out provided some great discussions. Sometimes it isn't about trying to prove you're right. Rather it's trying to encourage others think...

FireForged · September 1, 2009, 08:37 PM

is a clip man, you know what I mean.

Falcon5NZ · September 2, 2009, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Tuttle8

This whole thread started out with a simple question yet opposing statements being hashed out provided some great discussions. Sometimes it isn't about trying to prove you're right. Rather it's trying to encourage others think...

I think sometimes you have to make an almost trolling post to get people to think. And I agree with Skan. It's fun being the devil's advocate. Mind you I'm one of those guy's that will argue for the sake of it some times.
And while I can see where you are coming from Tuttle I still don't agree with you 100%.

**Shane Tuttle** · September 2, 2009, 07:36 PM

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I think sometimes you have to make an almost trolling post to get people to think. And I agree with Skan. It's fun being the devil's advocate. Mind you I'm one of those guy's that will argue for the sake of it some times.
And while I can see where you are coming from Tuttle I still don't agree with you 100%.

If this is what you really think, then I've done my job. Not advocating to troll to get a rise out of people, mind you. Going head to head on opinions and ideas in the ring hashing it out then shake hands afterwards is what it's all about.

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August 31, 2009, 09:58 PM	#102
Shane Tuttle Staff Join Date: November 28, 2005 Location: Montana Posts: 9,443	Looks like by the very definition of a weapon is an item used to destroy something....those animals are being destroyed, yes? I'm not disagreeing a firearm can't be used as a tool. I'm arguing the point that the term primary purpose of manufacture is being overlooked. Firearms are made to shoot a projectile for the intent of punching holes in something. They CAN be used for other purposes as a tool, but again, the primary reason is the key issue here. It's as clear as a sunny day in Denver...to me anyway.... __________________ If it were up to me, the word "got" would be deleted from the English language. Posting and YOU: http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/posting

September 1, 2009, 08:37 PM	#105
FireForged Senior Member Join Date: November 4, 1999 Location: Rebel South USA Posts: 2,074	is a clip man, you know what I mean. __________________ Life is a web woven by necessity and chance...